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RE: If we had hired Penny...
(11-17-2017 10:01 AM)EricSigEpTNBeta183 Wrote: Bc when you support something as bad as this coaching staff it says that you are ok with what's going on. Or at least that's my opinion. And I'm not ok with what's going on.
you know what opinions are like.......
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TOGC
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RE: If we had hired Penny...
(11-16-2017 03:51 PM)salukiblue Wrote: (11-16-2017 03:42 PM)TOGC Wrote: Remind me exactly how many conference titles, conference tournament titles, and postseason tournament games we won while the Lawsons were here.
That isn't the measuring stick.
How many NCAA games did Penny win without Vaughn?
How many did Ren win without Vaughn?
How many did lottery pick Dejaun Wagner win?
How many did top 25 recruit Austin Nichols win?
Elliot Perry won ONE NCAAt game in four years. Memphis didn't make the NCAA's his junior or senior year. He didn't win a conference title in his four years. The last season, Memphis went 17-15.
And Perry was a top 10 recruit. Not top 40.
So, according to your standards, Perry had to be a huge disappointment.
Perry made the postseason. The Lawson boys didn't. And they had a better supporting cast.
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RE: If we had hired Penny...
(11-16-2017 08:14 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (11-16-2017 03:42 PM)TOGC Wrote: Remind me exactly how many conference titles, conference tournament titles, and postseason tournament games we won while the Lawsons were here.
Did you see who the coaches were while they were here?
I bet they win some of those next season at Kansas.
I expect more disciplinary issues with them.
And Kansas has a much better roster with or without them. They will have to earn minutes.
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RE: If we had hired Penny...
(11-16-2017 03:42 PM)TOGC Wrote: Remind me exactly how many conference titles, conference tournament titles, and postseason tournament games we won while the Lawsons were here.
Quote:Remind me exactly how many conference games, conference tournament games, and postseason tournament games any team would win with Rhykoek, Kessee, Clergeot, and Randall getting big minutes?
FIFY
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EricSigEpTNBeta183
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RE: If we had hired Penny...
(11-18-2017 10:18 AM)TOGC Wrote: (11-16-2017 08:14 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (11-16-2017 03:42 PM)TOGC Wrote: Remind me exactly how many conference titles, conference tournament titles, and postseason tournament games we won while the Lawsons were here.
Did you see who the coaches were while they were here?
I bet they win some of those next season at Kansas.
I expect more disciplinary issues with them.
And Kansas has a much better roster with or without them. They will have to earn minutes.
Funny thing is Kansas has 3 CJP players on their roster. TOGC why are you avoiding the Fultz and Simmons comment . . . Or was that someone else?
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RE: If we had hired Penny...
(11-18-2017 10:16 AM)TOGC Wrote: (11-16-2017 03:51 PM)salukiblue Wrote: (11-16-2017 03:42 PM)TOGC Wrote: Remind me exactly how many conference titles, conference tournament titles, and postseason tournament games we won while the Lawsons were here.
That isn't the measuring stick.
How many NCAA games did Penny win without Vaughn?
How many did Ren win without Vaughn?
How many did lottery pick Dejaun Wagner win?
How many did top 25 recruit Austin Nichols win?
Elliot Perry won ONE NCAAt game in four years. Memphis didn't make the NCAA's his junior or senior year. He didn't win a conference title in his four years. The last season, Memphis went 17-15.
And Perry was a top 10 recruit. Not top 40.
So, according to your standards, Perry had to be a huge disappointment.
Perry made the postseason. The Lawson boys didn't. And they had a better supporting cast.
Yes, the Lawsons had Rhykoek, Clergeot, Kessee, Randall, we should have been in the Final Four with them. Remarkable how posters can be critical of the Lawsons performance and not at all critical of Tubby's. Crazy.
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RE: If we had hired Penny...
(11-18-2017 10:18 AM)TOGC Wrote: (11-16-2017 08:14 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (11-16-2017 03:42 PM)TOGC Wrote: Remind me exactly how many conference titles, conference tournament titles, and postseason tournament games we won while the Lawsons were here.
Did you see who the coaches were while they were here?
I bet they win some of those next season at Kansas.
I expect more disciplinary issues with them.
And Kansas has a much better roster with or without them. They will have to earn minutes.
So you are saying the Tub should have gone out and recruited when he was hired instead of taking a summer vacation? I agree with you on that.
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11-18-2017 11:44 AM |
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EricSigEpTNBeta183
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RE: If we had hired Penny...
How about recruiting your own player! The kid who you worked a lot with to change he shot, you invested time in the kid and let him walk? Without even talking to him about it?!? That still blows my mind. I think Crawford could have been talked into staying easily.
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11-18-2017 11:54 AM |
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RE: If we had hired Penny...
Tubby should've fired Keelon on day one. If the two boys didn't like it, he should've released them and moved on.
His only mistake was letting them stick around that long.
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11-18-2017 12:11 PM |
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RE: If we had hired Penny...
(11-18-2017 12:11 PM)TOGC Wrote: Tubby should've fired Keelon on day one. If the two boys didn't like it, he should've released them and moved on.
His only mistake was letting them stick around that long.
Lol at his only mistake. Togc the stand up comic.
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RE: If we had hired Penny...
(11-18-2017 10:18 AM)TOGC Wrote: (11-16-2017 08:14 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (11-16-2017 03:42 PM)TOGC Wrote: Remind me exactly how many conference titles, conference tournament titles, and postseason tournament games we won while the Lawsons were here.
Did you see who the coaches were while they were here?
I bet they win some of those next season at Kansas.
I expect more disciplinary issues with them.
says the guy with a gun in his hand.
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RE: If we had hired Penny...
(11-18-2017 12:11 PM)TOGC Wrote: Tubby should've fired Keelon on day one. If the two boys didn't like it, he should've released them and moved on.
His only mistake was letting them stick around that long.
Based on what?
Are you just missing the last 5 years of being the most absurd devil's advocate out here?
I'm cool with that if you can back any of it with something more than your own baseless conjecture.
What you have said is that a top 38 recruit like Dedric didn't "live up to expectations" despite being the 4th most prolific Tigers frosh in scoring and 3rd best sophomore scorer. Same for rebounding. And was on pace to finish #2 in Tigers' history in scoring and rebounding.
Far exceeded the stat outputs of similarly ranked (#36-#42) Spoon, Shaq, Iverson, Jeff Robinson, and Nick King.
Even outperformed #10 Adonis Thomas and #25 Austin Nichols.
So, the question is: If Dedric didn't meet expectations, how do you characterize all of those above?
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RE: If we had hired Penny...
And with all that scoring, he couldn't help his team make the postseason.
Lawson Inc. didn't care about the Tigers. It was all about them.
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RE: If we had hired Penny...
(11-18-2017 04:10 PM)TOGC Wrote: And with all that scoring, he couldn't help his team make the postseason.
Lawson Inc. didn't care about the Tigers. It was all about them.
Their parents are lifelong Tiger fans.
The boys have always wanted to play for Memphis.
Tubby is an incorrigible dick head.
Any questions?
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