A couple of low top 25 teams lost today. Any chance a 8-1 team can make at least 25?

(11-11-2017 10:56 PM)Limebull Wrote:  A couple of low top 25 teams lost today. Any chance a 8-1 team can make at least 25?

damn well should with all these fraudulant programs.

iowa is out
but michigan is in

iowa state is out
but likely arizona is back in

msu wont be docked that bad for a close game with bama

vtech should be low top 25, if they gfall out then wvu

no one else low enough in the top 25 lost or will drop out from their loss

but i believe usf will be next after those teams

They’ll be in the Coaches/AP. Prob another week before they’re in in CFP poll though.

The same committee that jumped Michigan State 12 spots and kept UCF 18? I wouldn’t bet on it.

(11-11-2017 11:26 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  The same committee that jumped Michigan State 12 spots and kept UCF 18? I wouldn’t bet on it.

They better be dropping that Mich St butt back down below both of us, after the waxing they took today.

(11-11-2017 11:07 PM)UCF-ENG Wrote:  They’ll be in the Coaches/AP. Prob another week before they’re in in CFP poll though.

Agree. We’re alread around 21 in the AP and coaches but still not expecting to get in CFP rankings. Possibly next week though. If we do get in it will be around 24-25.

(11-12-2017 01:12 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(11-11-2017 11:07 PM)UCF-ENG Wrote:  They’ll be in the Coaches/AP. Prob another week before they’re in in CFP poll though.

Agree. We’re alread around 21 in the AP and coaches but still not expecting to get in CFP rankings. Possibly next week though. If we do get in it will be around 24-25.

They should get into the top 25 but probably won't because they know that the more teams that the AAC gets into the cfp poll the more pressure it'll put on the committee to move UCF up into at least the top 12 with Memphis not being far behind which could set up the nightmare scenario of the conference getting a legit chance to win it's way into 2 NY6 bowl slots. In the unlikely event that they do allow USF into the top 25 the AAC could literally have 4 teams in the top 25 if Navy beats ND which would surely add public pressure to awarding UCF a top12 finish (garuanting them a NY6 bowl) if a 1 lose Memphis beats them in a close game in the CCG. This should be all of our best case realistic hopes for this season. There will be no chance of a playoff spot this season but 2 NY6 bowl spots would be a step towards that eventually goal and a much better future contract.

No USF won’t get into the CFB poll unless it beats UCF. It all depends on that game

Yes.

ESPN Power Rankings say no.

9. UCF
17. Memphis

25. FAU

http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...de-survive

(11-12-2017 08:55 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  ESPN Power Rankings say no.

9. UCF
17. Memphis

25. FAU

http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...de-survive

On what planet does an FAU team with losses to Navy, Wisconsin, and 3-7 Buffalo get ranked in the top 25?

(11-11-2017 11:07 PM)UCF-ENG Wrote:  They’ll be in the Coaches/AP. Prob another week before they’re in in CFP poll though.

Already in on AP and coaches polls.

I love what Scott Frost said this week, that there needs to be some legislation on scheduling. The system is rigged against the G5 but also many of the non-blue blood P5 system. The 'expand the playoffs' to 8 with 6 auto bids and to at large, including a spot for the best G5 got a lot of talk this weekend.

I am not sure the AAC will ever see a big money contract but getting real opportunity will help all our programs retain our coaches and fanabases that getting jaded by the obvious bias and foolishness of the system. One the major reasons Taggart left was b/c he didn't feel he could ever play never mind win a national championship at USF, b/c of the current system.

(11-12-2017 08:55 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  ESPN Power Rankings say no.

9. UCF
17. Memphis

25. FAU

http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...de-survive

FAWho?

I thought ESPN put a stop on employees drinking while on the job?

Completely invalidates their poll.

(11-12-2017 09:02 AM)bullsbucsfan426 Wrote:  

(11-12-2017 08:55 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  ESPN Power Rankings say no.

9. UCF
17. Memphis

25. FAU

http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...de-survive

On what planet does an FAU team with losses to Navy, Wisconsin, and 3-7 Buffalo get ranked in the top 25?

Lane Kiffen to P5

(11-12-2017 02:48 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(11-12-2017 01:12 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(11-11-2017 11:07 PM)UCF-ENG Wrote:  They’ll be in the Coaches/AP. Prob another week before they’re in in CFP poll though.

Agree. We’re alread around 21 in the AP and coaches but still not expecting to get in CFP rankings. Possibly next week though. If we do get in it will be around 24-25.

They should get into the top 25 but probably won't because they know that the more teams that the AAC gets into the cfp poll the more pressure it'll put on the committee to move UCF up into at least the top 12 with Memphis not being far behind which could set up the nightmare scenario of the conference getting a legit chance to win it's way into 2 NY6 bowl slots. In the unlikely event that they do allow USF into the top 25 the AAC could literally have 4 teams in the top 25 if Navy beats ND which would surely add public pressure to awarding UCF a top12 finish (garuanting them a NY6 bowl) if a 1 lose Memphis beats them in a close game in the CCG. This should be all of our best case realistic hopes for this season. There will be no chance of a playoff spot this season but 2 NY6 bowl spots would be a step towards that eventually goal and a much better future contract.

I'm 100% positive I read an article saying if a non-Power team made the playoffs, then the auto G5 slot goes away.

Whether that also applies if 2 non-Power teams make the Top 12 outside the playoffs, and both get a spot in the NY6, I'm not sure. Didn't see a definitive answer on that one.

But I bet it's likely we wouldn't get 2 slots then, either. If they won't let 2 in when one makes the CFP, I bet they won't let 2 in to at large spots, either, if they have a choice.

(11-12-2017 10:11 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-12-2017 02:48 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(11-12-2017 01:12 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(11-11-2017 11:07 PM)UCF-ENG Wrote:  They’ll be in the Coaches/AP. Prob another week before they’re in in CFP poll though.

Agree. We’re alread around 21 in the AP and coaches but still not expecting to get in CFP rankings. Possibly next week though. If we do get in it will be around 24-25.

They should get into the top 25 but probably won't because they know that the more teams that the AAC gets into the cfp poll the more pressure it'll put on the committee to move UCF up into at least the top 12 with Memphis not being far behind which could set up the nightmare scenario of the conference getting a legit chance to win it's way into 2 NY6 bowl slots. In the unlikely event that they do allow USF into the top 25 the AAC could literally have 4 teams in the top 25 if Navy beats ND which would surely add public pressure to awarding UCF a top12 finish (garuanting them a NY6 bowl) if a 1 lose Memphis beats them in a close game in the CCG. This should be all of our best case realistic hopes for this season. There will be no chance of a playoff spot this season but 2 NY6 bowl spots would be a step towards that eventually goal and a much better future contract.

I'm 100% positive I read an article saying if a non-Power team made the playoffs, then the auto G5 slot goes away.

Whether that also applies if 2 non-Power teams make the Top 12 outside the playoffs, and both get a spot in the NY6, I'm not sure. Didn't see a definitive answer on that one.

But I bet it's likely we wouldn't get 2 slots then, either. If they won't let 2 in when one makes the CFP, I bet they won't let 2 in to at large spots, either, if they have a choice.

Poorly phrased: the highest ranked champion from the five non-contract-bowl conferences gets a spot in an NY6 bowl; the CFP semifinals are NY6 bowls.
If the highest ranked non-contract-bowl champ is in the top four it's not that something goes away, it is satisfied differently from previous at-large spots.

Totally unrelated from highest ranked champ getting one spot and then a second non-contract-bowl conference team being ranked high enough to get an at large.

No

(11-12-2017 10:23 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(11-12-2017 10:11 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-12-2017 02:48 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(11-12-2017 01:12 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(11-11-2017 11:07 PM)UCF-ENG Wrote:  They’ll be in the Coaches/AP. Prob another week before they’re in in CFP poll though.

Agree. We’re alread around 21 in the AP and coaches but still not expecting to get in CFP rankings. Possibly next week though. If we do get in it will be around 24-25.

They should get into the top 25 but probably won't because they know that the more teams that the AAC gets into the cfp poll the more pressure it'll put on the committee to move UCF up into at least the top 12 with Memphis not being far behind which could set up the nightmare scenario of the conference getting a legit chance to win it's way into 2 NY6 bowl slots. In the unlikely event that they do allow USF into the top 25 the AAC could literally have 4 teams in the top 25 if Navy beats ND which would surely add public pressure to awarding UCF a top12 finish (garuanting them a NY6 bowl) if a 1 lose Memphis beats them in a close game in the CCG. This should be all of our best case realistic hopes for this season. There will be no chance of a playoff spot this season but 2 NY6 bowl spots would be a step towards that eventually goal and a much better future contract.

I'm 100% positive I read an article saying if a non-Power team made the playoffs, then the auto G5 slot goes away.

Whether that also applies if 2 non-Power teams make the Top 12 outside the playoffs, and both get a spot in the NY6, I'm not sure. Didn't see a definitive answer on that one.

But I bet it's likely we wouldn't get 2 slots then, either. If they won't let 2 in when one makes the CFP, I bet they won't let 2 in to at large spots, either, if they have a choice.

Poorly phrased: the highest ranked champion from the five non-contract-bowl conferences gets a spot in an NY6 bowl; the CFP semifinals are NY6 bowls.
If the highest ranked non-contract-bowl champ is in the top four it's not that something goes away, it is satisfied differently from previous at-large spots.

Totally unrelated from highest ranked champ getting one spot and then a second non-contract-bowl conference team being ranked high enough to get an at large.

True. Better phrasing. But it doesn't change the point. If a G makes the playoff, there is no auto spot assigned to the second best G, as many fans assume. That is actually written into the rules.

Due to that, I'm willing to bet that it is equally unlikely 2 Gs (or one in the CFP and one at large) would ever make the NY6 in the same year, even if they are Top 12. Or, perhaps they conveniently get dropped just below Top 12 in the final ranking.

(11-12-2017 10:24 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  No

I agree, they won't sneak in. Heck, in the ESPN Power Rankings just out, for example, FAU, with 3 losses, is ahead of USF.