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Elon/UNCG is actually a good rivalry game. Close proximity and former conference foes.

If we add another basketball school to the CAA, UNCG should be next in line. HUGE potential, big city, big school, large fan base, central location in the CAA footprint. Largest metropolitan area on the east coast still available to move up in conference affiliation. And, great location for the CAA tournament.
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(12-07-2017 09:03 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Congrats to Drexel with a win over LaSalle

UNCG torched Elon

Thanks. First road win in nearly a year!
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UNCG would be a great addition, but I'm with Boeheim. Gimme Charleston over Greensboro any day.

(12-08-2017 06:58 AM)82hawk Wrote:  If we add another basketball school to the CAA, UNCG should be next in line...And, great location for the CAA tournament.
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(12-08-2017 11:03 AM)UNCWSuperFan Wrote:  UNCG would be a great addition, but I'm with Boeheim. Gimme Charleston over Greensboro any day.

(12-08-2017 06:58 AM)82hawk Wrote:  If we add another basketball school to the CAA, UNCG should be next in line...And, great location for the CAA tournament.

I love visiting Charleston, but from the standpoint of travel time for the majority of schools, Greensboro would be ideal.

<30 minutes - UNCG, Elon
<5 hours - JMU, UNCW, W&M, CofC

The northern schools are all 6+ hours.

If I were in charge, i'd rotate every 4 years between Baltimore and Greensboro if UNCG ever came on board.
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(12-08-2017 11:03 AM)UNCWSuperFan Wrote:  UNCG would be a great addition, but I'm with Boeheim. Gimme Charleston over Greensboro any day.

(12-08-2017 06:58 AM)82hawk Wrote:  If we add another basketball school to the CAA, UNCG should be next in line...And, great location for the CAA tournament.

Charleston is a great city with zero basketball history or at large fan base. As a vacation spot it wins hands down but we are talking college basketball tournaments not hanging out at the beach or fine dining. Greensboro has a long history with college basketball and is a much bigger metro area. Boeheim is a hater who would be better served finding something else to ***** about. UNCG would be a great fit for the CAA if they could be talked into it.
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(12-08-2017 12:33 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  
(12-08-2017 11:03 AM)UNCWSuperFan Wrote:  UNCG would be a great addition, but I'm with Boeheim. Gimme Charleston over Greensboro any day.

(12-08-2017 06:58 AM)82hawk Wrote:  If we add another basketball school to the CAA, UNCG should be next in line...And, great location for the CAA tournament.

Charleston is a great city with zero basketball history or at large fan base. As a vacation spot it wins hands down but we are talking college basketball tournaments not hanging out at the beach or fine dining. Greensboro has a long history with college basketball and is a much bigger metro area. Boeheim is a hater who would be better served finding something else to ***** about. UNCG would be a great fit for the CAA if they could be talked into it.

Charleston is a better local for the tourney, because you get the casual fan as well!
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Most people don't go to a tournament purely for the games. When my friends and I go, we only attend the UNCW game(s), and spend the rest of the time hanging out in the city. We don't spend money on a hotel room for multiple nights purely because of basketball; it operates like a spring vacation as well.

Greensboro would be a horrible destination with that in mind. Compared to a city like Baltimore or Charleston, there's very little to do there.
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Well if you want a vacation I would not go to any of those places in March and Baltimore is out of the question period. I lke Charleston but I live in Wilmington-so really whats the point ?
UNCG is a really good fit and a short drive for UNCW.
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(12-08-2017 12:46 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(12-08-2017 12:33 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  
(12-08-2017 11:03 AM)UNCWSuperFan Wrote:  UNCG would be a great addition, but I'm with Boeheim. Gimme Charleston over Greensboro any day.

(12-08-2017 06:58 AM)82hawk Wrote:  If we add another basketball school to the CAA, UNCG should be next in line...And, great location for the CAA tournament.

Charleston is a great city with zero basketball history or at large fan base. As a vacation spot it wins hands down but we are talking college basketball tournaments not hanging out at the beach or fine dining. Greensboro has a long history with college basketball and is a much bigger metro area. Boeheim is a hater who would be better served finding something else to ***** about. UNCG would be a great fit for the CAA if they could be talked into it.

Charleston is a better local for the tourney, because you get the casual fan as well!

Because Charleston,SC is a hot bed for college basketball? They might get 50 walkup fans for a CAA tournament game that does not involve the local team and maybe zero.
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(12-08-2017 06:58 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Largest metropolitan area on the east coast still available to move up in conference affiliation.
According to https://www.lyonspr.com/latest-nielsen-dma-rankings/ here are the biggest markets on the east coast with all their team(s) in conferences worse than the CAA:

1. Charlotte (Charlotte the school spent time in the Atlantic 10, now in Conference USA which is FBS but worse than the CAA in basketball)
*West Palm Beach-Fort Pierce (on the east coast but not in a state that was a colony to fit in the "Colonial")
2. Norfolk-Portsmouth-Newport News (Old Dominion is in Conference USA like Charlotte)
3. Harrisburg-Lancaster-Lebanon-York, PA (far enough away from Philadelphia to be treated separately IMO)
4. Greensboro/Winston-Salem/High Point

I'm not saying that the top three markets have teams that fit in the CAA better than UNCG. I'm just ranking the market sizes.

(12-08-2017 11:51 AM)82hawk Wrote:  I love visiting Charleston, but from the standpoint of travel time for the majority of schools, Greensboro would be ideal.

<30 minutes - UNCG, Elon
<5 hours - JMU, UNCW, W&M, CofC

The northern schools are all 6+ hours.
Excluding UNCG who doesn't have to travel to themselves, that's 5 out of 10 (half) <5 hours, and half is not a "majority." If UNCG joins to make an 11 team CAA without anybody leaving, I'll be mad because I don't like having more than 10 teams, I don't like an odd amount teams, and I don't want an increase in the percent of southern schools. I'd be fine with swapping Elon for UNCG. As UNCW fans would you prefer UNCG or Elon?
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(12-08-2017 01:04 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  
(12-08-2017 12:46 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(12-08-2017 12:33 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  
(12-08-2017 11:03 AM)UNCWSuperFan Wrote:  UNCG would be a great addition, but I'm with Boeheim. Gimme Charleston over Greensboro any day.

(12-08-2017 06:58 AM)82hawk Wrote:  If we add another basketball school to the CAA, UNCG should be next in line...And, great location for the CAA tournament.

Charleston is a great city with zero basketball history or at large fan base. As a vacation spot it wins hands down but we are talking college basketball tournaments not hanging out at the beach or fine dining. Greensboro has a long history with college basketball and is a much bigger metro area. Boeheim is a hater who would be better served finding something else to ***** about. UNCG would be a great fit for the CAA if they could be talked into it.

Charleston is a better local for the tourney, because you get the casual fan as well!

Because Charleston,SC is a hot bed for college basketball? They might get 50 walkup fans for a CAA tournament game that does not involve the local team and maybe zero.

No Mullet, many people's wives etc are much more interested in going to Charleston Vs Greensboro.
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(12-08-2017 01:18 PM)EvanJ Wrote:  
(12-08-2017 06:58 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Largest metropolitan area on the east coast still available to move up in conference affiliation.
According to https://www.lyonspr.com/latest-nielsen-dma-rankings/ here are the biggest markets on the east coast with all their team(s) in conferences worse than the CAA:

1. Charlotte (Charlotte the school spent time in the Atlantic 10, now in Conference USA which is FBS but worse than the CAA in basketball)
*West Palm Beach-Fort Pierce (on the east coast but not in a state that was a colony to fit in the "Colonial")
2. Norfolk-Portsmouth-Newport News (Old Dominion is in Conference USA like Charlotte)
3. Harrisburg-Lancaster-Lebanon-York, PA (far enough away from Philadelphia to be treated separately IMO)
4. Greensboro/Winston-Salem/High Point

I'm not saying that the top three markets have teams that fit in the CAA better than UNCG. I'm just ranking the market sizes.

(12-08-2017 11:51 AM)82hawk Wrote:  I love visiting Charleston, but from the standpoint of travel time for the majority of schools, Greensboro would be ideal.

<30 minutes - UNCG, Elon
<5 hours - JMU, UNCW, W&M, CofC

The northern schools are all 6+ hours.
Excluding UNCG who doesn't have to travel to themselves, that's 5 out of 10 (half) <5 hours, and half is not a "majority." If UNCG joins to make an 11 team CAA without anybody leaving, I'll be mad because I don't like having more than 10 teams, I don't like an odd amount teams, and I don't want an increase in the percent of southern schools. I'd be fine with swapping Elon for UNCG. As UNCW fans would you prefer UNCG or Elon?
Both? Haha. Travel is brutal, so having 3 schools within 4 hours of Wilmington would be awesome
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(12-08-2017 01:18 PM)EvanJ Wrote:  Excluding UNCG who doesn't have to travel to themselves, that's 5 out of 10 (half) <5 hours, and half is not a "majority." If UNCG joins to make an 11 team CAA without anybody leaving, I'll be mad because I don't like having more than 10 teams, I don't like an odd amount teams, and I don't want an increase in the percent of southern schools. I'd be fine with swapping Elon for UNCG. As UNCW fans would you prefer UNCG or Elon?

I'm sure if UNCG (or another southern school) were added, the league would add a northern school as well to make it an even 12 and appease the northern half of the CAA.
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I think the driving factor for any new CAA additions will be replacing JMU and/or Delaware, if/when they make the jump to FBS. Consequently, priority will be all sports schools to try to hold the conference together for football. UNCG falls short.

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I don't think football will be a factor with the CAA in the long haul. No money in football at this level for most schools and the CAA has a good group of basketball schools.
I don't think going to Charleston,SC for 3 days is a big thrill for most basketball fans but maybe your wife might like it.
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[quote='jumpinmullet' pid='14878898' dateline='1512761678']
I don't think football will be a factor with the CAA in the long haul. No money in football at this level for most schools and the CAA has a good group of basketball schools.
I don't think going to Charleston,SC for 3 days is a big thrill for most basketball fans but maybe your wife might like it.
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If you are a casual fan, where would you rather go for a get away?
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(12-08-2017 02:59 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  [quote='jumpinmullet' pid='14878898' dateline='1512761678']
I don't think football will be a factor with the CAA in the long haul. No money in football at this level for most schools and the CAA has a good group of basketball schools.
I don't think going to Charleston,SC for 3 days is a big thrill for most basketball fans but maybe your wife might like it.
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If you are a casual fan, where would you rather go for a get away?

I don't see the casual fan making a 3 day trip for basketball of any kind. I will give you that Charleston is more fun but I would not consider it for a second but I live in Wilmington and I prefer it to Charleston,SC. We should lobby to have it here!
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(12-08-2017 03:13 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  
(12-08-2017 02:59 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  [quote='jumpinmullet' pid='14878898' dateline='1512761678']
I don't think football will be a factor with the CAA in the long haul. No money in football at this level for most schools and the CAA has a good group of basketball schools.
I don't think going to Charleston,SC for 3 days is a big thrill for most basketball fans but maybe your wife might like it.
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If you are a casual fan, where would you rather go for a get away?

I don't see the casual fan making a 3 day trip for basketball of any kind. I will give you that Charleston is more fun but I would not consider it for a second but I live in Wilmington and I prefer it to Charleston,SC. We should lobby to have it here!
If the raggity old stubborn tax payers would be open to a mixed use convention center and arena we could get events like that in town!
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(12-08-2017 01:18 PM)EvanJ Wrote:  
(12-08-2017 06:58 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Largest metropolitan area on the east coast still available to move up in conference affiliation.
According to https://www.lyonspr.com/latest-nielsen-dma-rankings/ here are the biggest markets on the east coast with all their team(s) in conferences worse than the CAA:

1. Charlotte (Charlotte the school spent time in the Atlantic 10, now in Conference USA which is FBS but worse than the CAA in basketball)
*West Palm Beach-Fort Pierce (on the east coast but not in a state that was a colony to fit in the "Colonial")
2. Norfolk-Portsmouth-Newport News (Old Dominion is in Conference USA like Charlotte)
3. Harrisburg-Lancaster-Lebanon-York, PA (far enough away from Philadelphia to be treated separately IMO)
4. Greensboro/Winston-Salem/High Point

I'm not saying that the top three markets have teams that fit in the CAA better than UNCG. I'm just ranking the market sizes.

(12-08-2017 11:51 AM)82hawk Wrote:  I love visiting Charleston, but from the standpoint of travel time for the majority of schools, Greensboro would be ideal.

<30 minutes - UNCG, Elon
<5 hours - JMU, UNCW, W&M, CofC

The northern schools are all 6+ hours.
Excluding UNCG who doesn't have to travel to themselves, that's 5 out of 10 (half) <5 hours, and half is not a "majority." If UNCG joins to make an 11 team CAA without anybody leaving, I'll be mad because I don't like having more than 10 teams, I don't like an odd amount teams, and I don't want an increase in the percent of southern schools. I'd be fine with swapping Elon for UNCG. As UNCW fans would you prefer UNCG or Elon?

I think the southern schools would love to add UNCG and a northern school like Stony Brook. The problem was last time they tried that Hofstra said NO to Stony Brook so we stopped at 10.

Is Hofstra still anti Stony Brook? If not add them and UNCG so we can get divisions and save money on travel.
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Sign me up for the tourney in Charlotte. That Bojangles Coliseum would be a good fit. Breweries for days.

(12-08-2017 01:18 PM)EvanJ Wrote:  1. Charlotte (Charlotte the school spent time in the Atlantic 10, now in Conference USA which is FBS but worse than the CAA in basketball)
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