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Abresch played well.
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(11-02-2017 08:34 PM)7 Wrote:  I have serious questions about Childers being a long term solution at QB, but that's probably a conversation for the offseason.

I'm not going to go all MD and say it in every single one of my posts, but I'm going to say it...

Childers isn't good and he isn't the future.


For a "running" QB he doesn't run the ball exceptionally well. He has yet to have a game where he averages more than 4 YPC, yet he gets more carries than anyone. His passing game is by far the most limited of any of the three Huskies QBs and he's lucky he hasn't thrown more INTs. Oh yeah, the Huskies offense is third worst in FBS for three and outs.

The whole "he's a RS freshman" argument is a weak one. Ryan Graham was a RS freshman when he lead the Huskies to comeback victory against a ranked Toledo team, but no one wants him anywhere near the field.

I'm guessing Childers pads his stats against Ball St, and then looks average to below average against WMU and CMU.
11-02-2017 08:52 PM
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WMU will run it up the middle.
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(11-02-2017 08:49 PM)7 Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 08:49 PM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 08:34 PM)7 Wrote:  I have serious questions about Childers being a long term solution at QB, but that's probably a conversation for the offseason.

I hope it gets figured out so we start 2018 knowing who our QB is. We play FSU on September 22nd, and I will be there. I hate FSU. I want to see a game like we had against OSU a couple of years ago, where we hang and at least have a chance.

I'll be there as well! Let's have a drink.

More than one. That tomahawk chop chant drives me nuts. The Orange Bowl was torture. I was talking serious smack after the on-side kick. Needless to say, I left early.
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(11-02-2017 08:53 PM)huskie1stdown Wrote:  WMU will run it up the middle.

Our D will eat WMU up.
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(11-02-2017 08:54 PM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 08:49 PM)7 Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 08:49 PM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 08:34 PM)7 Wrote:  I have serious questions about Childers being a long term solution at QB, but that's probably a conversation for the offseason.

I hope it gets figured out so we start 2018 knowing who our QB is. We play FSU on September 22nd, and I will be there. I hate FSU. I want to see a game like we had against OSU a couple of years ago, where we hang and at least have a chance.

I'll be there as well! Let's have a drink.

More than one. That tomahawk chop chant drives me nuts. The Orange Bowl was torture. I was talking serious smack after the on-side kick. Needless to say, I left early.

I'm looking forward to the white women and booze
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(11-02-2017 08:55 PM)7 Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 08:54 PM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 08:49 PM)7 Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 08:49 PM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 08:34 PM)7 Wrote:  I have serious questions about Childers being a long term solution at QB, but that's probably a conversation for the offseason.

I hope it gets figured out so we start 2018 knowing who our QB is. We play FSU on September 22nd, and I will be there. I hate FSU. I want to see a game like we had against OSU a couple of years ago, where we hang and at least have a chance.

I'll be there as well! Let's have a drink.

More than one. That tomahawk chop chant drives me nuts. The Orange Bowl was torture. I was talking serious smack after the on-side kick. Needless to say, I left early.

I'm looking forward to the white women and booze

To complicate matters, my daughter is choosing between UF and FSU for college. Since Daddy is paying, she will be going to UF. I could not handle a seminole in the house. NA NA NA NA NA NA ,NA NA NA NA, NA NA NA NA...........
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(11-02-2017 08:44 PM)prairiedawg Wrote:  The backup QBs have to be feeling like they are in play.

(11-02-2017 08:50 PM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 08:44 PM)prairiedawg Wrote:  The backup QBs have to be feeling like they are in play.

Santa. He's a playmaker.

As much as I do not think that Childers is the answer, it would be brutal to go away from him at this point. I think that you have to stay with him the rest of the season unless he totally loses his confidence and starts making more and more mistakes. He is likely a good teammate, plays hard and has toughness.

It should be an open competition next spring though and I hope that someone beats him out for the position. He is just not showing any improvement at all in his passing ability.
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Who the hell thinks Childers is a lock for the future QB? That's not an over reaction at all. He's not great at running and he's horrible at throwing. Yeah, it's definitely debatable
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(11-02-2017 09:03 PM)armour248 Wrote:  Who the hell thinks Childers is a lock for the future QB? That's not an over reaction at all. He's not great at running and he's horrible at throwing. Yeah, it's definitely debatable
Yeah, I just don't see it. Hare couldn't hit a deep ball his first year as a starter either, but you could see he had arm talent/strength. Childers really just can't throw.
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(11-02-2017 09:03 PM)armour248 Wrote:  Who the hell thinks Childers is a lock for the future QB? That's not an over reaction at all. He's not great at running and he's horrible at throwing. Yeah, it's definitely debatable

Santa impressed me in the SDSU game, interceptions included. No ballz, no brass ring. Santa has an arm and can hit the long pass.
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Rodney Hall, your table is ready.

That said, some of the playcalling was bizarre. Yes, let's set up for a 47-yard FG. WTF? You have 2 plays to get about 7 yards. Get 3 or 4 and then you can either go for it or try a more make-able FG.
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(11-02-2017 09:09 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Rodney Hall, your table is ready.

That said, some of the playcalling was bizarre. Yes, let's set up for a 47-yard FG. WTF? You have 2 plays to get about 7 yards. Get 3 or 4 and then you can either go for it or try a more make-able FG.

You really think Childers was going to convert anything there, though? I think Childers picking up 4th and 7 is about as likely (or unlikely) as Hagan making that kick.

It did seem like they went away from the running backs too soon, but lets be honest as soon as Toledo went up by 2 scores Childers wasn't bringing them back.

Only getting 3 after the blocked punt was huge.
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I'm very proud of the way this team has bounced back from last years performance. These kids play hard! Toledo is a better team this year. We have a lot of potential and I'm looking forward to watching them grow. Its a young team that should only get better. Future is very bright.

I though Childers was slinging it in the first half. Second half was a different story. Marcus Jones and Tre Harbison ran hard tonight. Tre is a load. Excited to see them develop.

Heres to a strong finish and a bowl win.
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(11-02-2017 09:10 PM)7 Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 09:09 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Rodney Hall, your table is ready.

That said, some of the playcalling was bizarre. Yes, let's set up for a 47-yard FG. WTF? You have 2 plays to get about 7 yards. Get 3 or 4 and then you can either go for it or try a more make-able FG.

You really think Childers was going to convert anything there, though? I think Childers picking up 4th and 7 is about as likely (or unlikely) as Hagan making that kick.

It did seem like they went away from the running backs too soon, but lets be honest as soon as Toledo went up by 2 scores Childers wasn't bringing them back.

Only getting 3 after the blocked punt was huge.

They had 2 tries, not one. They tried a long throw on 3rd down - not exactly Childers' forte as everyone on here since day 1 has said. THEN they settled for the long FG. Do something Childers can actually accomplish - run or throw a shorter pass. Every time they throw long I feel like it's a wasted down.
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(11-02-2017 09:13 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 09:10 PM)7 Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 09:09 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Rodney Hall, your table is ready.

That said, some of the playcalling was bizarre. Yes, let's set up for a 47-yard FG. WTF? You have 2 plays to get about 7 yards. Get 3 or 4 and then you can either go for it or try a more make-able FG.

You really think Childers was going to convert anything there, though? I think Childers picking up 4th and 7 is about as likely (or unlikely) as Hagan making that kick.

It did seem like they went away from the running backs too soon, but lets be honest as soon as Toledo went up by 2 scores Childers wasn't bringing them back.

Only getting 3 after the blocked punt was huge.

They had 2 tries, not one. They tried a long throw on 3rd down - not exactly Childers' forte as everyone on here since day 1 has said. THEN they settled for the long FG. Do something Childers can actually accomplish - run or throw a shorter pass. Every time they throw long I feel like it's a wasted down.

There was what, 4 minutes left and they had 1 timeout? Don't think that's the time to try to be picking up 3 yards.
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(11-02-2017 09:14 PM)7 Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 09:13 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 09:10 PM)7 Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 09:09 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Rodney Hall, your table is ready.

That said, some of the playcalling was bizarre. Yes, let's set up for a 47-yard FG. WTF? You have 2 plays to get about 7 yards. Get 3 or 4 and then you can either go for it or try a more make-able FG.

You really think Childers was going to convert anything there, though? I think Childers picking up 4th and 7 is about as likely (or unlikely) as Hagan making that kick.

It did seem like they went away from the running backs too soon, but lets be honest as soon as Toledo went up by 2 scores Childers wasn't bringing them back.

Only getting 3 after the blocked punt was huge.

They had 2 tries, not one. They tried a long throw on 3rd down - not exactly Childers' forte as everyone on here since day 1 has said. THEN they settled for the long FG. Do something Childers can actually accomplish - run or throw a shorter pass. Every time they throw long I feel like it's a wasted down.

There was what, 4 minutes left and they had 1 timeout? Don't think that's the time to try to be picking up 3 yards.

If you get a FG you are within 1 score. But you are not making a freaking 47 yard FG with Hagan. Sorry. Or, with a safer play, you get a few yards and try to convert a 4th and 3 or 4th and 4. Toledo was probably going to give you a short gain.
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(11-02-2017 08:49 PM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 08:34 PM)7 Wrote:  I have serious questions about Childers being a long term solution at QB, but that's probably a conversation for the offseason.

I hope it gets figured out so we start 2018 knowing who our QB is. We play FSU on September 22nd, and I will be there. I hate FSU. I want to see a game like we had against OSU a couple of years ago, where we hang and at least have a chance.

I don't care who starts QB next year, as long as that person is the clear starter. Can't go into next season with that indecision. I echo 7's comments on being proud of this team and what they have done. Pretty incredible Toledo o-line, they seem to have a combo of power and speed that took NIU out of the game. Great turnaround season, and especially if they could win out from here. I think Huskies settle the score with the Rockets next season (hopefully not in Chicago, and hopefully on a Saturday in DeKalb).
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(11-02-2017 09:17 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 09:14 PM)7 Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 09:13 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 09:10 PM)7 Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 09:09 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Rodney Hall, your table is ready.

That said, some of the playcalling was bizarre. Yes, let's set up for a 47-yard FG. WTF? You have 2 plays to get about 7 yards. Get 3 or 4 and then you can either go for it or try a more make-able FG.

You really think Childers was going to convert anything there, though? I think Childers picking up 4th and 7 is about as likely (or unlikely) as Hagan making that kick.

It did seem like they went away from the running backs too soon, but lets be honest as soon as Toledo went up by 2 scores Childers wasn't bringing them back.

Only getting 3 after the blocked punt was huge.

They had 2 tries, not one. They tried a long throw on 3rd down - not exactly Childers' forte as everyone on here since day 1 has said. THEN they settled for the long FG. Do something Childers can actually accomplish - run or throw a shorter pass. Every time they throw long I feel like it's a wasted down.

There was what, 4 minutes left and they had 1 timeout? Don't think that's the time to try to be picking up 3 yards.

If you get a FG you are within 1 score. But you are not making a freaking 47 yard FG with Hagan. Sorry. Or, with a safer play, you get a few yards and try to convert a 4th and 3 or 4th and 4. Toledo was probably going to give you a short gain.
And then you've burned 40+ seconds to get 7 yards.

I get what you're saying, I just don't think there really was a good option.
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At some point you need to play to win the game and take a risk. You're down 10 and you just leave your better throwing QB on the sidelines. This is where I don't agree with Rods coaching philosophy. He never takes a risk. The D played like trash too but they kept us in the game. We got lucky last week with bad fg kicking. This week we played a competent offense and he burned us over a me over. Got news for you kids but Kevin Kane isn't going to be here next year and we're letting our best year as a defense fade away into a meaningless bowl game and an 8 win season.

Hope one of these QBs really takes a step in the off-season because starting another freshmen isn't the answer.
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