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I experienced those terrible years as well which helps me fully appreciate what NIU football has accomplished over the last decade plus. It is also because of those down years that I refuse to accept a return to bad football at NIU. I don't belive we're headed there right now but I do think Carey had to change several things in the off season.

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(11-04-2017 11:57 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(11-04-2017 09:09 PM)Djud Wrote:  We have to only hope that Childers improves and corrects whatever is preventing him from completing any passes over 15 yards; clearly he is the guy.
BTW, JT Barnett threw 4 INTs today; I wonder if Carey would bench him if he was the OSU coach?

How do you correct the poor coaching and its impact on QB development. Hare also regressed his last season. I just feel like an expectation of developing a Qb might be unrealistic at NIU right now

What really ticks me off is when it's pretty clear to me that Harbison was ready to bust some big runs because he looked like he was very close to going the distance on several of his seven carries. Then he doesn't get another touch for over a quarter? It's like some basketball coaches who take out a player after they score three straight baskets and really feeling it. It's ridiculous. You have to feed the hot hand. We took the lead on runs by Jones and Harbison, but it seemed clear to me Harbison was the much more explosive/effective runner. Go with the fricking hot hand. I thought for sure we would feature Harbs in the second half after the spark he provided in the first half but nope. We don't want to keep the ball. We rather Toledo's offense win time of possession because that's our best chance to win... Un-fricking-believable.
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The staff lets Smalls get torched play after play and not give anyone else a shot to perform better, but when a guy is obviously making a difference they only give him what(?) two-three touches in the second half? What a fricking joke!
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(11-05-2017 09:51 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  The staff lets Smalls get torched play after play and not give anyone else a shot to perform better, but when a guy is obviously making a difference they only give him what(?) two-three touches in the second half? What a fricking joke!


It shocks me how anyone could defend our offensive play calling. This has happened way too often.
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(11-05-2017 09:50 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  What really ticks me off is when it's pretty clear to me that Harbison was ready to bust some big runs because he looked like he was very close to going the distance on several of his seven carries. Then he doesn't get another touch for over a quarter?

I thought for sure that they would use him in the red zone and was shocked when they did not. If he was not dinged up it was gross incompetence on the part of the coaching staff.
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(11-05-2017 09:58 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(11-05-2017 09:51 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  The staff lets Smalls get torched play after play and not give anyone else a shot to perform better, but when a guy is obviously making a difference they only give him what(?) two-three touches in the second half? What a fricking joke!


It shocks me how anyone could defend our offensive play calling. This has happened way too often.

Well, the play calling IS offensive. They got that part right.
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(11-03-2017 10:33 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(11-03-2017 10:30 PM)NIUSAE Wrote:  Childers knee brace was the result of one of his early runs when he was tackled and his knee was bent underneath him and he was then pulled backwards got up slowly and was rubbing his knee. Looked like it could have been a lot worse and afterwards I was surprised that childers wasn't lying on the ground in pain.

Yeah I just don't know how much longer NIU can run the same offense. That's the reason QBs are treated like herded cattle in the summer because the coaches know there will be casualties. In today's game unless your name is Jordan Lynch, you just can't absorb that kind of punishment consistently and expect to be upright
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I have felt now for a few seasons that when you run an offense where QB runs a lot sooner or later he's gonna get mashed . Jordon Lynch was a rare exception and a very special athlete.
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(11-05-2017 07:58 AM)NIUTrekker Wrote:  I experienced those terrible years as well which helps me fully appreciate what NIU football has accomplished over the last decade plus. It is also because of those down years that I refuse to accept a return to bad football at NIU. I don't belive we're headed there right now but I do think Carey had to change several things in the off season.

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Agree completely NIUTrekker.

It clearly seems that so many people on this board have incredibly unrealistic expectations regarding Coach Rod Carey and the NIU Football team's performance expectations!

Bad football at NIU in my opinion was Coach Charlie Sadler's five year tenure, which I believe led directly to the collapse of the NIU Football program.

Clearly there are several posters on this board who were either too young to remember, or who choose to forget what Coach Sadler did that led to the collapse of NIU Football.

To understand the fall of NIU's Football program and to possibly in my opinion give a fare benchmark of Coach Rod Carey's tenure, one should at least be aware of his predecessor's record. Jerry Pettibone led the NIU program from 1985 to 1990.

His record at NIU was 33-32-1 (1- being a draw to B1G Northwestern University.)

In 1985 when NIU was in the MAC before we went Independent we were 4-4 Conference and 4-7 overall that year.

NIU then left the MAC and these were his results before this highly acclaimed coach was considered by some to be the fourth best NIU Football coach after #3 Joe Novak interms of wins, before Rod Carey surpassed his 33 wins.

Jerry Pettibone
1986 2-9
1987 5-5-1
1988 7-4
1989 9-2. Considered to have Tied NIU's best record at the time.
1990 6-5 (1991-1996, he was HC of Oregon State in the PAC 10)

1991 Charlie Sadler 2-9
1992 Charlie Sadler 5-6
1993 Charlie Sadler. 4-7
1994 Charle Sadler 4-7
1995 Charlie Sadler 3-8

Then came the three year nightmare in NIU FB which included the 23 game longest losing streak in Div 1a before Coach Novak was able to alledgly rebuild or allegedly build NIU Football into the alleged succesful powerhouse it is today where post Season Bowl invitations seem to have become so common place that some fans literally find them boring and only focus on either their cost to NIU or losing a post season Bowl.

NIU will likely get its nineth post season Bowl invitation within the last ten years.

This is like ,"Christmas to a FB coach and gives him and his team an additional month of practice" according to Coach Joe Novak.

It is true that post season Bowl games are far more common than in 2003
when NIU went 10-2 with a 2-2 record against Top 25 ranked teams and got NO BOWL invitation. Maryland whom NIU beat in the first game had If my memory is correct a 10 win season with a good Bowl invitation and an impressive Bowl victory over a good ranked team.

Toledo who beat NIU that year and smashed Penn State at Penn State also got no Bowl invite.

Miami Ohio 13-1 with was was ranked 15nth got a ****** Bowl invite against an unranked #3 9-5 Conference USA (5-3) team.

It is worth emphasizing that this MIAMI OHIO 2003 team under Big Ben Roethlisberger was or might have been probably the best MAC team ever in the post 2000 year era.

Only loss was to a 10-3 #8Final poll Iowa team.
They had 13 incredible straight victories against allot of good teams and were 8-0 in the MAC when the MAC had 5 ranked teams in the top 25 that year.
They smashed NU 44-14 in a game that I believe was more unevenly matched then the score line showed at Evanston.

NU who were 6-6 (4-4) B1G were rewarded with a 'toilet Bowl' against A ranked Bowling Green team who were 7-1 in the MAC in 2003 and 11-3 overall.

Only losses being an unlucky 17-24 loss to #4 Ohio State University which included a dropped TD from BGSU on the OSU goal line in a game that according to commentators was the closest game Ohio State came to losing to an instate team in well over 50 years. In my opinion they deserved to have won.
Other two losses were 10-33 at MIami Ohio and again 27-49 at BGSU for the MACC.

BGSU victories that year included
#16 Purdue at Purdue.
#12 NIU at BGSU 34-18 (Ending arguably NIU's most recognized 8 game winning streak)
A ranked Toledo who had beaten #9 Ranked power 5 team,
A ranked Marshall who beat #6th ranked Kansas( regarded as the greatest MAC OOC victory that year and maybe ever.)

This was perhaps the height of disrespect the MAC received regarding post season Bowl games and a reason to perhaps cherish every Bowl invitation, not only as an opportunity to improve for the following year with the extra month of practice but as an earned experience for a football team that has won at least 5 or 6 games.

Let us all be grateful as NIU FB fans for the incredible resurrection of NIU FB which stunk and tanked from 1991-1998, and since then has never experienced two losing consecutive seasons from 1999-2017 in 19 years.

If you would have predicted that in 1998, that NIU with the Nations longest losing streak in Div1a College football and had experienced 8 consecutive losing seasons would:

Go 10-2 in 2003, 9-3 (7-1) 2004 with first post season Bowl game, 2005 7-5 (6-2) record first trip to Detroit, heartbreaking last minute loss and NO Post Season Bowl invite, Bowl games in 2006, 2008-2015. Ten post season Bowl games, 7 MAC Championship games!

And added that NIU would Only have three seasons with less than 6 wins. ( 2 with 5 in 1999 and 2016 wins, and a single 2 win injury ridden season in 2007,

Everyone would have laughed!!!!!

How does a team with an 8 season losing streak achieve the status and success of NIU FB despite a very limited FB budget compared to most Div 1a schools?

This is the miraculous modern resurgence of NIU FB.
Enjoy is.
Savour it.
Appreciate it.
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Sterling1man, nice perspective on how far we've come.

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(11-02-2017 08:33 PM)Teamduh Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 08:26 PM)7 Wrote:  This sucks, but this team was 1-6 last year. They've come a long way since then. They just don't have the offense right now to beat Toledo.

I know the defense is going to take it on the chin for this one, but you can't expect them to save your ass every game. At some point the offense was going to need to pick up the slack.

Finish the season strong, win 9 games, and lets go win a bowl game for once.

Proud of this group. It's really hard to reverse a backslide and they did it.
Young qb. What do u expect? His accuracy was hit and miss. Good team but not great.

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Extremely tough to win a conference with a 3rd string Freshman QB playing. NIU has done great to achieve the record it has. Good opportunity to win out the regular season and finish 9-3. with the injuries and misfortune that is quite an achievement.
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(11-05-2017 09:58 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(11-05-2017 09:51 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  The staff lets Smalls get torched play after play and not give anyone else a shot to perform better, but when a guy is obviously making a difference they only give him what(?) two-three touches in the second half? What a fricking joke!


It shocks me how anyone could defend our offensive play calling. This has happened way too often.

Wrong play calling led to the BC & SD ST losses
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(11-06-2017 12:04 PM)Policiious Wrote:  
(11-05-2017 09:58 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(11-05-2017 09:51 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  The staff lets Smalls get torched play after play and not give anyone else a shot to perform better, but when a guy is obviously making a difference they only give him what(?) two-three touches in the second half? What a fricking joke!


It shocks me how anyone could defend our offensive play calling. This has happened way too often.

Wrong play calling led to the BC & SD ST losses
Playcalling leads to every loss according to this place. Players are undefeated lol
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Sterling1man, that was a great post. Thank you for the walk down memory lane.
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(11-06-2017 12:02 PM)Policiious Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 08:33 PM)Teamduh Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 08:26 PM)7 Wrote:  This sucks, but this team was 1-6 last year. They've come a long way since then. They just don't have the offense right now to beat Toledo.

I know the defense is going to take it on the chin for this one, but you can't expect them to save your ass every game. At some point the offense was going to need to pick up the slack.

Finish the season strong, win 9 games, and lets go win a bowl game for once.

Proud of this group. It's really hard to reverse a backslide and they did it.
Young qb. What do u expect? His accuracy was hit and miss. Good team but not great.

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Extremely tough to win a conference with a 3rd string Freshman QB playing. NIU has done great to achieve the record it has. Good opportunity to win out the regular season and finish 9-3. with the injuries and misfortune that is quite an achievement.
I think most on this board predicted less and few had the nerve to hope for 9-3 with a win at Nebraska. Let's win out.

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(11-07-2017 01:27 PM)Teamduh Wrote:  
(11-06-2017 12:02 PM)Policiious Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 08:33 PM)Teamduh Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 08:26 PM)7 Wrote:  This sucks, but this team was 1-6 last year. They've come a long way since then. They just don't have the offense right now to beat Toledo.

I know the defense is going to take it on the chin for this one, but you can't expect them to save your ass every game. At some point the offense was going to need to pick up the slack.

Finish the season strong, win 9 games, and lets go win a bowl game for once.

Proud of this group. It's really hard to reverse a backslide and they did it.
Young qb. What do u expect? His accuracy was hit and miss. Good team but not great.

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Extremely tough to win a conference with a 3rd string Freshman QB playing. NIU has done great to achieve the record it has. Good opportunity to win out the regular season and finish 9-3. with the injuries and misfortune that is quite an achievement.
I think most on this board predicted less and few had the nerve to hope for 9-3 with a win at Nebraska. Let's win out.

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And even sadder when the best QB on the team was placed third on the depth chart to start the season
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