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RE: ABO not dead?
"But how did we get only 7 points against Stanford?"

If memory serves, Glaesman started the Stanford game. But don't mis-understand my "stats"... Those are stats referring to how many points we have GIVEN UP because of our miscues this season.. Not our offensive points...

"What do you do if he is promoted back to #1 and throws two TDs for the other guys? Do you bench him or keep trying to correct the problems?"

You have three QB's.. you had a QB competition.. You named a starter.. They've all played... At this point, what they've done is anointed one and said "he is definitely the best".. What I'm saying is he isn't.. He is certainly not definitive...

I would make a change and see if the other guy develops.. If he throws pick-6's sit him... It is hardly evident to me that we have "found the guy", but these are the guys to choose from... Keep the competition open.. Put pressure on them to perform or sit... If this year is a "throw away year" find out which guy is truly better... Right now there's only more confusion because one isn't ready (smalls), one hasn't grown and learn to take care of the ball and can't throw (Glaesman), one doesn't make enough plays (Tyner)... That's just what I would do... Force a guy to rise...on the field.. Not in the coaches' office...
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11-02-2017 12:44 PM
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RE: ABO not dead?
The Gargantuan blunder I can agree with. The Pick Six is understandable, given the defense was playing pass all the way - last minute, and all that. The game was lost when the defense could not make a stop after we tied the game. Not the QB's fault.

I cannot discern if this rant is anti DB or pro JT, or both. But it does appear your "do anything about it" is self-answered by putting Tyner back at starter.

Ok, you have an opinion. I think I know now where you are coming from.
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RE: ABO not dead?
My rant doesn't want to be "anti-DB", but he's leaving me little choice... I am pro JT, BUT... I am "pro-don't feed us turd pie and call it Chicken Fried Steak"... If SG is the man, then he needs to show me he is.. So far, JT is the better guy.. period.. even if by a slim margin.
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RE: ABO not dead?
(11-02-2017 12:42 PM)Antarius Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 12:38 PM)Neelys Ghost Wrote:  But here's your radio show today.... claiming that the fumble may have had something to do with the shape of the ball... But hey.. Freshmen don't know the way the ball is shaped apparently and have to learn it... Geez... And here I thought we were an institution of higher learning...

Please tell me you are joking about this.

No sir... I just listened to it.. Why else would I go absolutely nuts on here instead of enjoy my wife's leftovers during lunch? I don't want to say it, but it is ABO propaganda.
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(11-02-2017 12:38 PM)Neelys Ghost Wrote:  The offense moved the ball based on improved play calling last week.... Lynch and Beerstoner switched up and suddenly, we establish the jet series.. QB made two really good throws, had a couple decent runs, and one big time scramble... Other than that he had 30-odd handoffs with only one gargantuan blunder and a Pick 6 that ended the game....So the assertion that the "offense has somehow found it's legs" is just dumb....The offense has found Conference USA defenses...

But here's your radio show today.... claiming that the fumble may have had something to do with the shape of the ball... But hey.. Freshmen don't know the way the ball is shaped apparently and have to learn it... Geez... And here I thought we were an institution of higher learning...

I want to be positive... I really really want to be positive... But if you "call me a dog long enough, I will bark and eat Purina Chow"... Call us young and inexperienced enough and that's exactly what we will always be... Zero, none, nada accountability for performance for the "young guys".. And anyone here who thinks my smoke is just smoke, pm me and I'll let you know what I really think...I haven't begun to be upset about what I perceive... But I'll keep it off the board....

I don't care about all the other. I'm hoping we start to see this offense move the ball. I want a win!
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RE: ABO not dead?
Winning is like better than losing.
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(11-02-2017 12:51 PM)Neelys Ghost Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 12:42 PM)Antarius Wrote:  
(11-02-2017 12:38 PM)Neelys Ghost Wrote:  But here's your radio show today.... claiming that the fumble may have had something to do with the shape of the ball... But hey.. Freshmen don't know the way the ball is shaped apparently and have to learn it... Geez... And here I thought we were an institution of higher learning...

Please tell me you are joking about this.

No sir... I just listened to it.. Why else would I go absolutely nuts on here instead of enjoy my wife's leftovers during lunch? I don't want to say it, but it is ABO propaganda.

Hahaha.

I have to go check it out now. Last I heard, the football didn't recently change shape.
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(11-01-2017 11:15 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  But what do you want Bailiff to DO about it? Sounds like you want Tyner back in there. Fine with me. i like Tyner. But what is bailiff NOT doing that you want him to DO?

Number one, pick a quarterback and stick with him, at least as long as games are competitive. If none of them separated from the others in spring or two-a-days, that is a problem. But even in that case, we probably get more production out of choosing one and going with him than switching back and forth.

Number two, when games get out of hand (as most of ours have), get number one out and give the others playing time. Tyner and Glaesmann were both around last year, and we certainly spent a lot of time in games that had gotten out of hand. Both should have gotten considerably more time than either did, and that should have put us

Quote:And how does what he is doing or not doing show an agenda? And what is that agenda?

What is really needed is some sort of personnel planning. Whom do you have at each position, what's your turnover (graduation, expiration of eligibility, etc.) projected to be each year, what is your personnel plan for 1, 2, and 3 years from now, how do you plan to get there? I thought that sort of thing was pretty much standard operating procedure for programs, but we certainly seem to get caught unprepared a lot.
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(11-02-2017 03:19 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(11-01-2017 11:15 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  But what do you want Bailiff to DO about it? Sounds like you want Tyner back in there. Fine with me. i like Tyner. But what is bailiff NOT doing that you want him to DO?

Number one, pick a quarterback and stick with him, at least as long as games are competitive. If none of them separated from the others in spring or two-a-days, that is a problem. But even in that case, we probably get more production out of choosing one and going with him than switching back and forth.

Number two, when games get out of hand (as most of ours have), get number one out and give the others playing time. Tyner and Glaesmann were both around last year, and we certainly spent a lot of time in games that had gotten out of hand. Both should have gotten considerably more time than either did, and that should have put us

Quote:And how does what he is doing or not doing show an agenda? And what is that agenda?

What is really needed is some sort of personnel planning. Whom do you have at each position, what's your turnover (graduation, expiration of eligibility, etc.) projected to be each year, what is your personnel plan for 1, 2, and 3 years from now, how do you plan to get there? I thought that sort of thing was pretty much standard operating procedure for programs, but we certainly seem to get caught unprepared a lot.

I thought the plan at the beginning of the years was for Glaesman to be the guy. An injury scotched that.

They didn't play him in garbage time last year because they were trying to redshirt him. You may not agree with that choice, but it is one a lot of coaches make about a lot of freshmen.

Speaking of freshmen, Smalls came in, burning his redshirt for what seems now like a waste of a year, but at least he can get some garbage time play over the rest of the season.

Tyner seemed like the guy they turned to when Glaes man was hurt to preserve Smalls' redshirt.

Since the guy they picked was injured, should they have picked Tyner or Smalls to play the rest of the year?

Looks like the plan was to play Glaesman as the #1 all year, then they turned to Tyner to fill in, and then when the losses mounted, they tried the vaunted freshmen, as so many here were begging for.

The best laid plans of mice and men...
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(11-02-2017 03:30 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  I thought the plan at the beginning of the years was for Glaesman to be the guy. An injury scotched that.
They didn't play him in garbage time last year because they were trying to redshirt him. You may not agree with that choice, but it is one a lot of coaches make about a lot of freshmen.
Speaking of freshmen, Smalls came in, burning his redshirt for what seems now like a waste of a year, but at least he can get some garbage time play over the rest of the season.
Tyner seemed like the guy they turned to when Glaes man was hurt to preserve Smalls' redshirt.
Since the guy they picked was injured, should they have picked Tyner or Smalls to play the rest of the year?
Looks like the plan was to play Glaesman as the #1 all year, then they turned to Tyner to fill in, and then when the losses mounted, they tried the vaunted freshmen, as so many here were begging for.
The best laid plans of mice and men...

Kind of like false starts. If it happens once, then it may be one-off. If it happens all the time, then there is a problem somewhere that needs to be addressed. This is not the first time that this program has been bothered with indecision at the QB position. It actually seems like more often than not. I'm less willing to buy excuses in that situation.
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(11-02-2017 12:38 PM)Neelys Ghost Wrote:  But here's your radio show today.... claiming that the fumble may have had something to do with the shape of the ball... But hey.. Freshmen don't know the way the ball is shaped apparently and have to learn it... Geez... And here I thought we were an institution of higher learning...

Radio Show Recap

- Glaesmann and Beschorner will join as guests, along with Billy Riebock, a quality control assistant

- Mention about World Series, Rice soccer losing

Bailiff
- Bailiff on Louisiana Tech: Positives were offense executing, big play to Kylen Granson at end of first half, good time of possession. Defense won battles in first half, but couldn't get LaTech off field in second half (four of six third downs were converted)

- Bailiff on Aaron Cephus catch for 4th and 12 near end of game: Billy made a great call and Cephus did the work. Cephus has a ton of upside, likes to be coached.

- Bailiff on Will Phillips: Good call from Billy to call the sweep to Phillips. Another freshman with a lot of potential. Big and fast kid, knocks his man down everytime on kickoffs

- Have to eliminate turnovers and need to force more. Turnovers are why we're in the shape we're in. The one with Tyner, we just threw him in there to throw at as far down the field as he could. The first turnover, what are the odds of the slot receiver tripping on the tight end's foot and hitting the QB. Cascade of events that led to the first turnover of the game and I really thought Sam was gonna jump on it and sometimes that's why the ball is built the way it is, it just didn't lay there for him. But we have to eliminate those and we need to make more interceptions and not just get hands on the ball.

- Brian Womac is incredible. Defense getting a ton of tackles for loss. We need to get a win. Getting better, getting close, but need to close the deal.

- Destri White had best game of year (filling in for Cole Thomas). 8 or 9 tackles, no missed tackles. Playing at a fast pace

- DJ Green on special teams. Wanted to increase team speed so defensive back subbed in at LB.

- Jack Fox exceptional. Can outpunt his coverage, very pleased.

- Good attitude, amazing bunch, want to work their tail off. Haven't had a bad practice or a bad day this year, but it's time for us to earn a win.

-Reminiscing about UAB game in 2013. Luke Turner and Jowan Davis were great.

- Beschorner is an amazing football coach. The fact that he played QB helps him as that position coach (03-lmfao). Sam has struggled when he missed three games and missed that development. Wesley coaches him hard. QBs are always in his office. Sam will get better every time he takes the field.

- On Billy Riebok - quality control guy. These positions were funded by some former players. They'll break down how we think we're going to get attacked, analytics, etc. Has freed the coaches up.

Glaesmann
- Definitely hard sitting on sidelines when I was injured. Role was being a rally guy and helping the offense go smoothly. Trying to study every mistake I've made to put myself in a better position. Viewed injury time as a way to get stronger mentally and physically.

- Playing 6A football, it was the closest you can get to the speed of the college game. I was nervous before first game, but McHargue called me a few days before and helped calm my nerves and talked through his situation starting as a RS freshman. Can only learn from that experience against Stanford. I did feel some of the pressures as a QB.

- Cephus and I are great friends, we built a connection before hitting the field. Always try and push one another.

- Miklo's a great QB. We'll push each other. Have to win the job over and over again.


This is kind of boring so I'm gonna stop here. About halfway through the show.
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So the problem is the ball is unpredictable its bounces?

I have heard that before.
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