The NCAA allows schools/players to petition for a 6th year of eligibility for players. A basis for the petition is that the player has not been able to complete his 4 years of eligibility within the 5 year window due to special circumstances. We have a few players that fit the basic requirement this year - largely due to injuries. Are any likely to petition and get the 6th year?

Sam Craft: Began eligibility in 2013. Played most of first 3 seasons 2013-15, missing 5 games due to injuries. Only played 4 games in 2016 before season ending injury. Received a medical redshirt for 2017 (fifth year), but injured before the season started.

Jackson Dillon: Similar to Craft. Started eligibility in 2013. Played most of first 3 seasons. Injured in opening game of 2016. Received a medical redshirt for 2017 (fifth year), but injured in opening game.

Darian Porter: Graduated HS in 2013 and must have redshirted somewhere - I can't find any info on him for the 2013 season. Played 2014 juco. Transferred to Memphis and played most games 2015-16. Injured in the 2017 opening game.

Riley Ferguson: Started college in 2013 and redshirted that year at UTK. Sat out of college in 2014. Played complete season of juco in 2015. Transferred to Memphis and played all games in the 2016-17 seasons.

Doroland Dorceus has a case if he doesn't play another game this year. But I bet that he does play more this year. And that with Henderson, PTaylor, and TTaylor, it's really not ideal for him to come back anyway.

(10-31-2017 02:08 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  The NCAA allows schools/players to petition for a 6th year of eligibility for players. A basis for the petition is that the player has not been able to complete his 4 years of eligibility within the 5 year window due to special circumstances. We have a few players that fit the basic requirement this year - largely due to injuries. Are any likely to petition and get the 6th year?

Sam Craft: Began eligibility in 2013. Played most of first 3 seasons 2013-15, missing 5 games due to injuries. Only played 4 games in 2016 before season ending injury. Received a medical redshirt for 2017 (fifth year), but injured before the season started.

Jackson Dillon: Similar to Craft. Started eligibility in 2013. Played most of first 3 seasons. Injured in opening game of 2016. Received a medical redshirt for 2017 (fifth year), but injured in opening game.

Darian Porter: Graduated HS in 2013 and must have redshirted somewhere - I can't find any info on him for the 2013 season. Played 2014 juco. Transferred to Memphis and played most games 2015-16. Injured in the 2017 opening game.

Riley Ferguson: Started college in 2013 and redshirted that year at UTK. Sat out of college in 2014. Played complete season of juco in 2015. Transferred to Memphis and played all games in the 2016-17 seasons.

Doroland Dorceus has a case if he doesn't play another game this year. But I bet that he does play more this year. And that with Henderson, PTaylor, and TTaylor, it's really not ideal for him to come back anyway.

If 6th years are granted for medical reasons, then Craft, Dillon & Porter would have case. Not sure that Ferguson would qualify, since he did not miss 2014 for a medical reason.

(10-31-2017 02:23 PM)CKMcDan Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 02:08 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  The NCAA allows schools/players to petition for a 6th year of eligibility for players. A basis for the petition is that the player has not been able to complete his 4 years of eligibility within the 5 year window due to special circumstances. We have a few players that fit the basic requirement this year - largely due to injuries. Are any likely to petition and get the 6th year?

Sam Craft: Began eligibility in 2013. Played most of first 3 seasons 2013-15, missing 5 games due to injuries. Only played 4 games in 2016 before season ending injury. Received a medical redshirt for 2017 (fifth year), but injured before the season started.

Jackson Dillon: Similar to Craft. Started eligibility in 2013. Played most of first 3 seasons. Injured in opening game of 2016. Received a medical redshirt for 2017 (fifth year), but injured in opening game.

Darian Porter: Graduated HS in 2013 and must have redshirted somewhere - I can't find any info on him for the 2013 season. Played 2014 juco. Transferred to Memphis and played most games 2015-16. Injured in the 2017 opening game.

Riley Ferguson: Started college in 2013 and redshirted that year at UTK. Sat out of college in 2014. Played complete season of juco in 2015. Transferred to Memphis and played all games in the 2016-17 seasons.

Doroland Dorceus has a case if he doesn't play another game this year. But I bet that he does play more this year. And that with Henderson, PTaylor, and TTaylor, it's really not ideal for him to come back anyway.

If 6th years are granted for medical reasons, then Craft, Dillon & Porter would have case. Not sure that Ferguson would qualify, since he did not miss 2014 for a medical reason.

Eh, not sure. Does being "sick" of playing for Tennessee count?

6th year's are granted for a variety of reasons. Medical is certainly one. Also, players who take a redshirt year early, then have a real reason to need it back later. That is close to Ferguson. His case is unique because he enrolled in college in 2013 and started the eligibility window. But he didn't play his first collegiate game until 2015.

Nothing is guaranteed with these deals. But I would think he could file a decent petition if he wanted to do so.

No way Ferguson gets another year. He played year 1 at TN, then out for a year, then JUCO and then 2 years at Memphis. JUCO counts as a year of football, thus he has used his 4 years of eligibility.

Ferguson has a little draft buzz so I doubt that he would like to return.

(10-31-2017 02:08 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  The NCAA allows schools/players to petition for a 6th year of eligibility for players. A basis for the petition is that the player has not been able to complete his 4 years of eligibility within the 5 year window due to special circumstances. We have a few players that fit the basic requirement this year - largely due to injuries. Are any likely to petition and get the 6th year?

Sam Craft: Began eligibility in 2013. Played most of first 3 seasons 2013-15, missing 5 games due to injuries. Only played 4 games in 2016 before season ending injury. Received a medical redshirt for 2017 (fifth year), but injured before the season started.

Jackson Dillon: Similar to Craft. Started eligibility in 2013. Played most of first 3 seasons. Injured in opening game of 2016. Received a medical redshirt for 2017 (fifth year), but injured in opening game.

Darian Porter: Graduated HS in 2013 and must have redshirted somewhere - I can't find any info on him for the 2013 season. Played 2014 juco. Transferred to Memphis and played most games 2015-16. Injured in the 2017 opening game.

Riley Ferguson: Started college in 2013 and redshirted that year at UTK. Sat out of college in 2014. Played complete season of juco in 2015. Transferred to Memphis and played all games in the 2016-17 seasons.

Doroland Dorceus has a case if he doesn't play another game this year. But I bet that he does play more this year. And that with Henderson, PTaylor, and TTaylor, it's really not ideal for him to come back anyway.

Of the group above I think Dillon and Porter would be the most important to try and get back. We struggle enough on defense and we have several senior linebackers we are losing. Looking at the roster on gotigersgo.com it appears we have 22 seniors. I think 2 or 3 may not be on scholarship. So, when you seek a 6th year you have to also make sure you are not taking up a spot for someone that you would use in recruiting. The numbers generally can work out but you really only want to go for a 6th year with someone that is going to be a starter or top reserve in my opinion.

(10-31-2017 04:58 PM)pmantiger Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 02:08 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  The NCAA allows schools/players to petition for a 6th year of eligibility for players. A basis for the petition is that the player has not been able to complete his 4 years of eligibility within the 5 year window due to special circumstances. We have a few players that fit the basic requirement this year - largely due to injuries. Are any likely to petition and get the 6th year?

Sam Craft: Began eligibility in 2013. Played most of first 3 seasons 2013-15, missing 5 games due to injuries. Only played 4 games in 2016 before season ending injury. Received a medical redshirt for 2017 (fifth year), but injured before the season started.

Jackson Dillon: Similar to Craft. Started eligibility in 2013. Played most of first 3 seasons. Injured in opening game of 2016. Received a medical redshirt for 2017 (fifth year), but injured in opening game.

Darian Porter: Graduated HS in 2013 and must have redshirted somewhere - I can't find any info on him for the 2013 season. Played 2014 juco. Transferred to Memphis and played most games 2015-16. Injured in the 2017 opening game.

Riley Ferguson: Started college in 2013 and redshirted that year at UTK. Sat out of college in 2014. Played complete season of juco in 2015. Transferred to Memphis and played all games in the 2016-17 seasons.

Doroland Dorceus has a case if he doesn't play another game this year. But I bet that he does play more this year. And that with Henderson, PTaylor, and TTaylor, it's really not ideal for him to come back anyway.

Of the group above I think Dillon and Porter would be the most important to try and get back. We struggle enough on defense and we have several senior linebackers we are losing. Looking at the roster on gotigersgo.com it appears we have 22 seniors. I think 2 or 3 may not be on scholarship. So, when you seek a 6th year you have to also make sure you are not taking up a spot for someone that you would use in recruiting. The numbers generally can work out but you really only want to go for a 6th year with someone that is going to be a starter or top reserve in my opinion.

Agreed on all accounts. I do think these 2 have a legit shot. Both would start for us next year.

(10-31-2017 03:26 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  No way Ferguson gets another year. He played year 1 at TN, then out for a year, then JUCO and then 2 years at Memphis. JUCO counts as a year of football, thus he has used his 4 years of eligibility.

Ferguson redshirted his 1 year at UTK. Counts towards the 5 year window, but does not count towards 4 years of eligibility. Had he stayed at UTK, he would have had 4 full years of playing time left. As it was, he dropped out of school for one of those years so he lost it. But he could petition to get it back.

2013 - redshirted at UTK
2014 - out of school
2015 - juco (1st year of playing)
2016 - Memphis (2nd year)
2017 - Memphis (3rd year)

(10-31-2017 03:33 PM)Crazier Wrote:  Ferguson has a little draft buzz so I doubt that he would like to return.

He does, and I'm sure he's curious to test it. At the same time, they're saying this is the deepest QB draft in years. That will decrease his value. But he's an older guy already, so his stock may not go any higher than it already is. Add in the factor that Norvell has a kid on staff he recruited last year, and another promising kid coming in.

Lots of variables to this one.

Craft and Dillon are both likely to get a 6th year.

(10-31-2017 04:58 PM)pmantiger Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 02:08 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  The NCAA allows schools/players to petition for a 6th year of eligibility for players. A basis for the petition is that the player has not been able to complete his 4 years of eligibility within the 5 year window due to special circumstances. We have a few players that fit the basic requirement this year - largely due to injuries. Are any likely to petition and get the 6th year?

Sam Craft: Began eligibility in 2013. Played most of first 3 seasons 2013-15, missing 5 games due to injuries. Only played 4 games in 2016 before season ending injury. Received a medical redshirt for 2017 (fifth year), but injured before the season started.

Jackson Dillon: Similar to Craft. Started eligibility in 2013. Played most of first 3 seasons. Injured in opening game of 2016. Received a medical redshirt for 2017 (fifth year), but injured in opening game.

Darian Porter: Graduated HS in 2013 and must have redshirted somewhere - I can't find any info on him for the 2013 season. Played 2014 juco. Transferred to Memphis and played most games 2015-16. Injured in the 2017 opening game.

Riley Ferguson: Started college in 2013 and redshirted that year at UTK. Sat out of college in 2014. Played complete season of juco in 2015. Transferred to Memphis and played all games in the 2016-17 seasons.

Doroland Dorceus has a case if he doesn't play another game this year. But I bet that he does play more this year. And that with Henderson, PTaylor, and TTaylor, it's really not ideal for him to come back anyway.

Of the group above I think Dillon and Porter would be the most important to try and get back. We struggle enough on defense and we have several senior linebackers we are losing. Looking at the roster on gotigersgo.com it appears we have 22 seniors. I think 2 or 3 may not be on scholarship. So, when you seek a 6th year you have to also make sure you are not taking up a spot for someone that you would use in recruiting. The numbers generally can work out but you really only want to go for a 6th year with someone that is going to be a starter or top reserve in my opinion.

IMO Riley would be most important if he could come back. But his is probably the longest shot. So I hear you, as far as realistic possibilities.

(11-01-2017 02:39 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 04:58 PM)pmantiger Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 02:08 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  The NCAA allows schools/players to petition for a 6th year of eligibility for players. A basis for the petition is that the player has not been able to complete his 4 years of eligibility within the 5 year window due to special circumstances. We have a few players that fit the basic requirement this year - largely due to injuries. Are any likely to petition and get the 6th year?

Sam Craft: Began eligibility in 2013. Played most of first 3 seasons 2013-15, missing 5 games due to injuries. Only played 4 games in 2016 before season ending injury. Received a medical redshirt for 2017 (fifth year), but injured before the season started.

Jackson Dillon: Similar to Craft. Started eligibility in 2013. Played most of first 3 seasons. Injured in opening game of 2016. Received a medical redshirt for 2017 (fifth year), but injured in opening game.

Darian Porter: Graduated HS in 2013 and must have redshirted somewhere - I can't find any info on him for the 2013 season. Played 2014 juco. Transferred to Memphis and played most games 2015-16. Injured in the 2017 opening game.

Riley Ferguson: Started college in 2013 and redshirted that year at UTK. Sat out of college in 2014. Played complete season of juco in 2015. Transferred to Memphis and played all games in the 2016-17 seasons.

Doroland Dorceus has a case if he doesn't play another game this year. But I bet that he does play more this year. And that with Henderson, PTaylor, and TTaylor, it's really not ideal for him to come back anyway.

Of the group above I think Dillon and Porter would be the most important to try and get back. We struggle enough on defense and we have several senior linebackers we are losing. Looking at the roster on gotigersgo.com it appears we have 22 seniors. I think 2 or 3 may not be on scholarship. So, when you seek a 6th year you have to also make sure you are not taking up a spot for someone that you would use in recruiting. The numbers generally can work out but you really only want to go for a 6th year with someone that is going to be a starter or top reserve in my opinion.

IMO Riley would be most important if he could come back. But his is probably the longest shot. So I hear you, as far as realistic possibilities.

To clarify, I had already made the assumption that Riley has no chance when I said Dillon and Porter were the most important. Certainly if some weird rule interpretation opened the door for Riley he would be at the top of the list!!

I think Craft coming back would be very possible and he would help. Not that our WR group isn't deep, but his work ethic would help the younger WRs as well.

Don't know if they will petition for Ferguson, but would be interesting. Think he will be in the NFL next season, but would LOVE to see him back!!

(11-01-2017 05:44 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  I think Craft coming back would be very possible and he would help. Not that our WR group isn't deep, but his work ethic would help the younger WRs as well.

Don't know if they will petition for Ferguson, but would be interesting. Think he will be in the NFL next season, but would LOVE to see him back!!

I just realized that Miller has only played 3 years. Not that there is any legitimate chance he will not go pro, but he redshirted his first year and then missed his second with an injury which in theory means he could petition for a medical redshirt.

Oh, we can dream can't we?!?!?

(11-20-2017 06:04 PM)pmantiger Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 05:44 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  I think Craft coming back would be very possible and he would help. Not that our WR group isn't deep, but his work ethic would help the younger WRs as well.

Don't know if they will petition for Ferguson, but would be interesting. Think he will be in the NFL next season, but would LOVE to see him back!!

I just realized that Miller has only played 3 years. Not that there is any legitimate chance he will not go pro, but he redshirted his first year and then missed his second with an injury which in theory means he could petition for a medical redshirt.

Oh, we can dream can't we?!?!?

I think Miller goes in the 1st or 2nd round ... Riley by the 4th round ... Fingers crossed that Dillon and Craft get an extra year of eligibility ...

Miller and Riley will be in the NFL next year. Riley would make a perfect fit at Green Bay.

Gentry?

(11-20-2017 06:04 PM)pmantiger Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 05:44 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  I think Craft coming back would be very possible and he would help. Not that our WR group isn't deep, but his work ethic would help the younger WRs as well.

Don't know if they will petition for Ferguson, but would be interesting. Think he will be in the NFL next season, but would LOVE to see him back!!

I just realized that Miller has only played 3 years. Not that there is any legitimate chance he will not go pro, but he redshirted his first year and then missed his second with an injury which in theory means he could petition for a medical redshirt.

Oh, we can dream can't we?!?!?

You're absolutely correct. Miller would most certainly have a case in a petition. The difference in him and Riley or any of the others is that he is definitely getting drafted at his max position. Really nothing to gain for him to stay another year.

None of the others are NFL draft guarantees. Not even Riley. Riley could probably improve his draft stock with one more year. Or he could end up like the poor kid from MSU tonight.