1. UCF - Head and shoulders above the rest; Class of the conference
2. Memphis - Mostly dominating everyone with their lone loss to UCF
3. Navy - This is a really good team; Only losses to league's top two teams
4. South Florida - Has not beaten a team with a winning record
5. SMU - Quietly building a division resume
6. Houston - Saturday could be the turning point of your season
7. Tulane - Still hoping for a bowl game out of the Wave
8. UConn - Huskies can still go bowling
9. Temple - Owls can still go bowling
10. East Carolina - More likely than Tulsa to get to 4 wins
11. Tulsa - May end up with 3 wins on the season
12. Cincinnati - Only team yet to win a conference game

Of UCF’s 7 opponents so far this season, only two have a losing record (Cincy and ECU).

Our upcoming schedule and their current records:

6-2 SMU
3-5 UConn
3-5 Temple
7-1 S. Florida

That means that by the end of the regular season, UCF will only have faced four teams with a losing record and all were conference opponents.

(10-29-2017 04:07 AM)however Wrote:  Here is my 0.02 cent:

UCF -- looks like the one this year, could repeat 2013 if careful. Imagine if UCF went undefeated and beat someone in NY6 bowl, this team will be a legend in AAC, 5 years, three champions, with two access bowl appearance, it would be the definition of great!

Memphis -- Best team in the west, no doubt, and if UCF can handle smu and usf, a repeat on CCG will be as great as the Black Friday showdown, will be a huge promotion for the conference

NAVY -- second best team in the west, if not for 5 turnovers, this team could easily be the best in the west, and one could only imagine what a beast it is going to be next year after Navy's QB becomes better.

Huston -- Better than USF, of course, forth in the league, and third in the west, still finding its pace under new coach, next year, the west will belong to Navy and Huston. Btw, You have to respect Huston, even in its down year!

USF -- How could I say about usf, always find a way to poop the bed, no wonder the Bulls has no championship rings, no division titles!!! second best in the east, of course, looking forward to Black Friday showdown. Unfortunately, week 9's loss killed any speculation of ESPN CFB GAMEDAY coming to Orlando, what a shame! But at the moment, Bulls still control its destiny, win out, it will be in NY6 bowl, no doubt!

SMU -- Ponies finally showed up this year, and be a decent team, not a loose bottom, and hopefully UCF can handle business next week.

Temple -- Tough team in the rebuild.

UConn -- I am rooting for UConn bring some surprise in the next couple games, like knocking down Bulls.

Tulsa Tulane --- not very bad, but not good enough to be dark-horse.

Cincy, ECU -- nobody cares, loose bottom of 2017.

Houston beat South Florida technically but they aren't better than them. Otherwise Tulsa is better than UH and by a whole lot.

(10-29-2017 08:03 PM)St. H. Gink Wrote:  Of UCF’s 7 opponents so far this season, only two have a losing record (Cincy and ECU).

Our upcoming schedule and their current records:

6-2 SMU
3-5 UConn
3-5 Temple
7-1 S. Florida

That means that by the end of the regular season, UCF will only have faced four teams with a losing record and all were conference opponents.

This is exactly why I am not sold on SMU yet. I have nothing at all against them, just looking at their conference record.

They are 3-1. The loss is by 13 to Houston. The wins are by 21 over UConn, 3 over UC in OT, and 4 over Tulsa.

OOC was about the same. Lost by 20 to the #20 team (similar to where USF, UCF, Navy and Memphis have been). Easily beat 3 really bad opponents.

They still have to play UCF, at Navy, at Memphis, and Tulane. I think they will lose 3 of those, and maybe all 4. I think they will finish 4-4.

Their schedule is just heavily backloaded. They are not going to run the table and win the division, or even go 3-1 with the right wins, and win the division. Sorry.

Is it mathematically possible? Sure. Is it realistic? Nope.

(10-29-2017 08:15 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 04:07 AM)however Wrote:  Here is my 0.02 cent:

UCF -- looks like the one this year, could repeat 2013 if careful. Imagine if UCF went undefeated and beat someone in NY6 bowl, this team will be a legend in AAC, 5 years, three champions, with two access bowl appearance, it would be the definition of great!

Memphis -- Best team in the west, no doubt, and if UCF can handle smu and usf, a repeat on CCG will be as great as the Black Friday showdown, will be a huge promotion for the conference

NAVY -- second best team in the west, if not for 5 turnovers, this team could easily be the best in the west, and one could only imagine what a beast it is going to be next year after Navy's QB becomes better.

Huston -- Better than USF, of course, forth in the league, and third in the west, still finding its pace under new coach, next year, the west will belong to Navy and Huston. Btw, You have to respect Huston, even in its down year!

USF -- How could I say about usf, always find a way to poop the bed, no wonder the Bulls has no championship rings, no division titles!!! second best in the east, of course, looking forward to Black Friday showdown. Unfortunately, week 9's loss killed any speculation of ESPN CFB GAMEDAY coming to Orlando, what a shame! But at the moment, Bulls still control its destiny, win out, it will be in NY6 bowl, no doubt!

SMU -- Ponies finally showed up this year, and be a decent team, not a loose bottom, and hopefully UCF can handle business next week.

Temple -- Tough team in the rebuild.

UConn -- I am rooting for UConn bring some surprise in the next couple games, like knocking down Bulls.

Tulsa Tulane --- not very bad, but not good enough to be dark-horse.

Cincy, ECU -- nobody cares, loose bottom of 2017.

Houston beat South Florida technically but they aren't better than them. Otherwise Tulsa is better than UH and by a whole lot.

looking purely at simple evaluation, not who beat who...usf is more experienced and proven, so they are probably better. but talking pure talent wise i think houston is better. its hard to compare with ucf without playing.. but putting ucf aside, besides them houston is the most roster talented team in the league.. if postma and allen werent doing 5 turnovers a game, you could make an argument we'd easily be undefeated...
king doesnt even have to be good, if doesn't turn the ball over as much as they did, i could see us winning out

(10-29-2017 08:26 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 08:03 PM)St. H. Gink Wrote:  Of UCF’s 7 opponents so far this season, only two have a losing record (Cincy and ECU).

Our upcoming schedule and their current records:

6-2 SMU
3-5 UConn
3-5 Temple
7-1 S. Florida

That means that by the end of the regular season, UCF will only have faced four teams with a losing record and all were conference opponents.

This is exactly why I am not sold on SMU yet. I have nothing at all against them, just looking at their conference record.

They are 3-1. The loss is by 13 to Houston. The wins are by 21 over UConn, 3 over UC in OT, and 4 over Tulsa.

OOC was about the same. Lost by 20 to the #20 team (similar to where USF, UCF, Navy and Memphis have been). Easily beat 3 really bad opponents.

They still have to play UCF, at Navy, at Memphis, and Tulane. I think they will lose 3 of those, and maybe all 4. I think they will finish 4-4.

Their schedule is just heavily backloaded. They are not going to run the table and win the division, or even go 3-1 with the right wins, and win the division. Sorry.

Is it mathematically possible? Sure. Is it realistic? Nope.

unt and ark state are currently favored to win their leagues/division...they aren't "really bad"

tcu is #10..not sure where this #20 is coming from

smu is upsetting 1 of the 3 ... im sure of it,
but ucf will kill them.. but navy and memphis are interesting games

I swear USF looked like they threw that game. Those two last kickoff returns where the returning runner looked as though he was walking. No energy. Did they think they had it won or something. Good for Houston finally finding their QB, so they will be even tougher the rest of the way.

(10-29-2017 09:06 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 08:26 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 08:03 PM)St. H. Gink Wrote:  Of UCF’s 7 opponents so far this season, only two have a losing record (Cincy and ECU).

Our upcoming schedule and their current records:

6-2 SMU
3-5 UConn
3-5 Temple
7-1 S. Florida

That means that by the end of the regular season, UCF will only have faced four teams with a losing record and all were conference opponents.

This is exactly why I am not sold on SMU yet. I have nothing at all against them, just looking at their conference record.

They are 3-1. The loss is by 13 to Houston. The wins are by 21 over UConn, 3 over UC in OT, and 4 over Tulsa.

OOC was about the same. Lost by 20 to the #20 team (similar to where USF, UCF, Navy and Memphis have been). Easily beat 3 really bad opponents.

They still have to play UCF, at Navy, at Memphis, and Tulane. I think they will lose 3 of those, and maybe all 4. I think they will finish 4-4.

Their schedule is just heavily backloaded. They are not going to run the table and win the division, or even go 3-1 with the right wins, and win the division. Sorry.

Is it mathematically possible? Sure. Is it realistic? Nope.

unt and ark state are currently favored to win their leagues/division...they aren't "really bad"

tcu is #10..not sure where this #20 is coming from

smu is upsetting 1 of the 3 ... im sure of it,
but ucf will kill them.. but navy and memphis are interesting games

We finally agree on something. UCF will kill them. So for your scenario to work, SMU will have to beat Navy AND Memphis, both on the road, with all 3 games back to back.

Plus, Memphis has a bye week before playing SMU. Then SMU would still would have to beat Tulane, too, which is no guarantee.

So, as I have said all along, your scenario is mathematically possible, b/c Memphis hasn't clinched yet. Is it likely, or even 50-50? Hell, no. According to ESPN's FPI, SMU has about a 7% chance of doing that.

So you have been arguing all day for something that has a 1 in 14 chance of happening.

P.S. Geez, do I have to do all your research for you? TCU was #20 when they beat SMU by 20.

on our way to the top

Tulsa lack of experience and talent at the QB position going on specifically . Lack of good coaching to win mentality. Lack of talent in general. Worst of all lack of want to win for most of the team. They been done since the second win.

(10-29-2017 08:03 PM)St. H. Gink Wrote:  Of UCF’s 7 opponents so far this season, only two have a losing record (Cincy and ECU).

Our upcoming schedule and their current records:

6-2 SMU
3-5 UConn
3-5 Temple
7-1 S. Florida

That means that by the end of the regular season, UCF will only have faced four teams with a losing record and all were conference opponents.

It also appears that we annihilated a team that may win CUSA....

Can someone from Tulsa or Houston please explain to me how Tulsa clobbered Houston? Tulsa is having an awful season, and Houston is their only conference win. How did that happen?

1.UCF

2.Memphis

3.Navy
4.Houston
5.SMU
6.USF


7.Tulane
8.Tulsa
9.Cincy
10.Temple
11.UConn
12.ECU

UCF is exceptional under Frost

Memphis is great under another coach

Both coaches will be poached

Disappointing season for deep Houston team but has found new weapons

Charlie Strong can't win the big games

Best SMU team since the 80's!

Navy is very well coached but talent matters.

1. UCF
2. Memphis
3. Houston
4. SMU
5. South Florida
6. Navy
7. Tulane

(10-30-2017 11:21 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Can someone from Tulsa or Houston please explain to me how Tulsa clobbered Houston? Tulsa is having an awful season, and Houston is their only conference win. How did that happen?

you had to watch the game, houston kept shooting themselves in the foot. if you noticed i said in the UH/USF thread pregrame if houston qbs werent averaging 4 turnovers, that they'd likely be undefeated with simply par QB play

Houston should have been up 30-0 at half on tulsa...but our qb missed a WIDE open 5yd td pass (had to settle for FG)..then next drive he stumbles on his own feet on a 4th and 1, in Tulsa territory..the next drive he threw a pick "almost" 6 (gave tulsa the ball at the UH 1)...half time score was 10-7...the announcers literally said tulsa was lucky this was still a game at half..

note the start of the second half started with another pick giving tulsa the ball inside our 10

(also note, going for it on 4th down, in the end of the game out of desperation, and a last second qb fumble, returned for TD made the score look way worse that it should have been)..remove the desperation plays and tulsa should have won 31-20

(10-30-2017 04:58 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 08:03 PM)St. H. Gink Wrote:  Of UCF’s 7 opponents so far this season, only two have a losing record (Cincy and ECU).

Our upcoming schedule and their current records:

6-2 SMU
3-5 UConn
3-5 Temple
7-1 S. Florida

That means that by the end of the regular season, UCF will only have faced four teams with a losing record and all were conference opponents.

It also appears that we annihilated a team that may win CUSA....

2 of the teams Houston beat this year are ranked in the top 25
Arizona and USF

http://www.espn.com/college-football/ran...asontype/2

And we are having a down year