(10-26-2017 10:57 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I think Satterfield would be more selective because of his job security, but he'd jump for the right job. Brown would bolt for pretty much anything P5.

You can only go so far as a head coach at a G5 school.

This. I think Scott would leave for the right job but not just any P5 job.

I do wonder if his limited experience outside of Boone plays against him as well.

(10-26-2017 10:22 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(10-26-2017 12:58 PM)ApexRedWolf Wrote:  JMO I have a feeling Satterfield gets the offer he can't refuse and is out of Boone at the end of the season. App gets paid.

After getting blasted by Toledo three times, I like Matt Campbell as a coach too. If I was an SEC school I would give him a hard look.

Would Satterfield be a 'candidate' if he had played A-State and Troy every season? If he gets a new job, he needs to have Karl schedule for him.

Willie Fritz became a candidate after dodging ULL (2nd in Conf '14) & AState in his two years.

(10-26-2017 10:57 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I think Satterfield would be more selective because of his job security, but he'd jump for the right job. Brown would bolt for pretty much anything P5.

You can only go so far as a head coach at a G5 school.

exactly!

(10-27-2017 11:07 AM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  

(10-26-2017 10:57 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I think Satterfield would be more selective because of his job security, but he'd jump for the right job. Brown would bolt for pretty much anything P5.

You can only go so far as a head coach at a G5 school.

exactly!

You can only go so far as a coach at any level....

(10-27-2017 11:52 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 11:07 AM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  

(10-26-2017 10:57 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I think Satterfield would be more selective because of his job security, but he'd jump for the right job. Brown would bolt for pretty much anything P5.

You can only go so far as a head coach at a G5 school.

exactly!

You can only go so far as a coach at any level....

Yes, but at the G5 you are likely to never win a national championship, the possibility of getting to a contract bowl is slim, and the amount of money you are going to earn for the work is far less than what you could at the P5 level.

At some point every G5 coach is going to want to challenge themselves with something different. Whether or not they do it immediately, or if they want to stick for a few years first depends on the opening and the situation.

Most any AState fan will tell you that it took a ton of random scenarios going exactly a certain way for us to end up with 5 coaches in 5 seasons. There's a lot of luck involved in this.

(10-27-2017 11:52 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 11:07 AM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  

(10-26-2017 10:57 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I think Satterfield would be more selective because of his job security, but he'd jump for the right job. Brown would bolt for pretty much anything P5.

You can only go so far as a head coach at a G5 school.

exactly!

You can only go so far as a coach at any level....

There is one coach that was G5 and became a HC in NFL. ............. he's also attainable for the right price in 2018

Thing is if a bad job offers enough you are crazy to not take it. If you are guaranteed to make in five years what would take you 30 to make, take it. A coaching career can go down the crapper in days, a rogue assistant, rogue booster, horrible decision by a guy you take a chance one, stupid comment blows up on social media, new administration in charge that doesn't have your back in a down year. You owe it to your family if the money is right.

Now a job hiring on the cheap where the math isn't so obvious. Yeah if you like your situation and it isn't a life changer be picky.

(10-28-2017 02:50 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Thing is if a bad job offers enough you are crazy to not take it. If you are guaranteed to make in five years what would take you 30 to make, take it. A coaching career can go down the crapper in days, a rogue assistant, rogue booster, horrible decision by a guy you take a chance one, stupid comment blows up on social media, new administration in charge that doesn't have your back in a down year. You owe it to your family if the money is right.

Now a job hiring on the cheap where the math isn't so obvious. Yeah if you like your situation and it isn't a life changer be picky.

This, PJ Fleck would not be making what he is today by turning down at the time the worst program in the FBS. I always chuckle when fan bases think their winning coach is safe. Clemson's coach is not safe when Saban retires yet Clemson fans say the same thing about Dabo as App fans say about Satt. A good AAC team or any P5 can pay double what Satt makes with all his bonuses hitting. UCF pays base 2M before bonues and coaching there is likely going to land their coach a P5 job paying likely double that. You kidding yourself if you think any Sun Belt coach is turning down the UCF job.

Quote:Neal Brown, Troy head coach

Brown is just 37. He led the Trojans to a program-record 10 wins last year and this year is 6-2 with a road win over LSU. He also knows offense, something the Gators have missed.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...wain-fired

Curse of the P5 win, great pub likely lose your coach.....

I think the thing holding Satterfield back from getting a premier job is his inability to come through in close games with P5 programs. He needs to beat one or two of those teams before he can get a P5 job. I don't see him jumping ship to head for the AAC.

I know a firm is shopping Scott around. They have contacted a few AD's I know asking their opinion and a recommendation for the portfolio.

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(10-31-2017 08:07 AM)High Country Student Wrote:  I think the thing holding Satterfield back from getting a premier job is his inability to come through in close games with P5 programs. He needs to beat one or two of those teams before he can get a P5 job. I don't see him jumping ship to head for the AAC.

Truth in that statement there is no doubt he is gone with some P5 wins but just doing well in the Belt keeps him on the radar but not a slam dunk hire right now.

Frost is probably going to go from 2M at UCF to a 5M+ P5 pay day. When you take the UCF job you are probably thinking more than just the UCF job for double the max pay you are getting in the Belt right now seeing what Frost has done.

This is why I am hopeful on landing Houston, hopefully he saw you can go from 600K max in the FCS with every bonus kicking in to close to 1M max similar success at any FBS and within a few years go to 1M to 2M just in base pay at a low level P5 or AAC teams with success at GS.

(10-31-2017 08:07 AM)High Country Student Wrote:  I think the thing holding Satterfield back from getting a premier job is his inability to come through in close games with P5 programs. He needs to beat one or two of those teams before he can get a P5 job. I don't see him jumping ship to head for the AAC.

Eh. P5 wins are not really required. They will certainly gets you noticed, but league titles are more important honestly. The difference is who notices you.

If Satterfield runs out and beats a bunch of P5 teams, about everyone notices him. If he runs out and wins conference titles, he's still noticed, but it limits the scope. We lost 3 coaches who never came close to beating a P5 school, but they were all hired away by schools they had extensive ties with.

Satterfield could get the job at say UNC (I think UNC goes after Anderson though) by just winning regularly at App. But if he wants Florida? He'd need to beat P5's.

Need I remind you folks App has been FBS four years and playing with FCS recruits most of that time. It's tough enough to beat P5's with lower level G5 talent and depth accumulated over years, yet some of you want to hold it against Satterfield because he hasn't done it with FCS talent.

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Freeze, Malzahn, and Harsin had zero P5 wins at A-State.