(10-29-2017 09:27 PM)Ragu Wrote:  What they gotta realize is their school is irrelevant too in the big picture. Nobody cares about middle Tennessee either. You are in the same boat

I find this part especially hilarious.

Where did I ever say MT was more relevant in the big picture or that we aren't in the same boat as F_U in the big picture?

I'm sorry that my pragmatism offends you to the point that you feel the need to go on the offensive.

Bookmark this thread, do whatever you feel you need to do tell me "I told you so" down the road, but I don't think you'll get the chance.

(10-29-2017 09:54 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 09:27 PM)Ragu Wrote:  The people that talk about history in a given year are also doing so because their team isn't in the same class in the current year. So congrats on your supposed awesome history. I'll enjoy the current year we are having

People in this conference are always trying to crap on fau and fiu. Before it was we don't belong. Now it's well you'll just suck in the near future ..

What they gotta realize is their school is irrelevant too in the big picture. Nobody cares about middle Tennessee either. You are in the same boat

And if fau can go from a joke to being a conference contender in one fricken year , you gotta ask yourself how good are you guys really ?

You again miss the point entirely.

I'm not "crapping" on either school, nor am I talking about history because we're having a down year, MT's history isn't that good anyhow, just better than F_U's.

The best indicator of future results is past results.

Over time, programs tend to be what they've always been.

Not always.

Who ever cared about University of Miami Hurricanes pre-1981? Or FSU, for that matter?

Maryland, Kentucky, Tennessee, Illinois, Ole Miss had won multiple national championships in 1940s-1960s.

(10-29-2017 09:58 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 09:27 PM)Ragu Wrote:  What they gotta realize is their school is irrelevant too in the big picture. Nobody cares about middle Tennessee either. You are in the same boat

I find this part especially hilarious.

Where did I ever say MT was more relevant in the big picture or that we aren't in the same boat as F_U in the big picture?

I'm sorry that my pragmatism offends you to the point that you feel the need to go on the offensive.

Bookmark this thread, do whatever you feel you need to do tell me "I told you so" down the road, but I don't think you'll get the chance.

I think it's hilarious that you are acting all innocent..

We are trying to enjoy a good season and you are pretty much saying enjoy it now cuz you'll be back in line soon

I don't buy it first of all. We went 3-9 three straight years. Get one good coach hire and the very next year are contending in cusa. It's not a stretch to say we can stay a threat. This conference isn't jack. None of the G5 is in the big picture

Again you had a 90 year head start in building your program. Still irrelevant too. Save the fill in the blank on the 2 schools too. They are two different schools. Could both be better schools than middle Tennessee btw


That alone shows your disrespect. So pardon me for not giving a crap about you trying to downplay a good season while saying we will suck again in the near future

(10-29-2017 10:00 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 09:54 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 09:27 PM)Ragu Wrote:  The people that talk about history in a given year are also doing so because their team isn't in the same class in the current year. So congrats on your supposed awesome history. I'll enjoy the current year we are having

People in this conference are always trying to crap on fau and fiu. Before it was we don't belong. Now it's well you'll just suck in the near future ..

What they gotta realize is their school is irrelevant too in the big picture. Nobody cares about middle Tennessee either. You are in the same boat

And if fau can go from a joke to being a conference contender in one fricken year , you gotta ask yourself how good are you guys really ?

You again miss the point entirely.

I'm not "crapping" on either school, nor am I talking about history because we're having a down year, MT's history isn't that good anyhow, just better than F_U's.

The best indicator of future results is past results.

Over time, programs tend to be what they've always been.

Not always.

Who ever cared about University of Miami Hurricanes pre-1981? Or FSU, for that matter?

Maryland, Kentucky, Tennessee, Illinois, Ole Miss had won multiple national championships in 1940s-1960s.

You're absolutely right.

There are outliers and exceptions, which is why I use words like "tend to be".

(10-29-2017 10:09 PM)Ragu Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 09:58 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 09:27 PM)Ragu Wrote:  What they gotta realize is their school is irrelevant too in the big picture. Nobody cares about middle Tennessee either. You are in the same boat

I find this part especially hilarious.

Where did I ever say MT was more relevant in the big picture or that we aren't in the same boat as F_U in the big picture?

I'm sorry that my pragmatism offends you to the point that you feel the need to go on the offensive.

Bookmark this thread, do whatever you feel you need to do tell me "I told you so" down the road, but I don't think you'll get the chance.

I think it's hilarious that you are acting all innocent..

We are trying to enjoy a good season and you are pretty much saying enjoy it now cuz you'll be back in line soon

I don't buy it first of all. We went 3-9 three straight years. Get one good coach hire and the very next year are contending in cusa. It's not a stretch to say we can stay a threat. This conference isn't jack. None of the G5 is in the big picture

Again you had a 90 year head start in building your program. Still irrelevant too. Save the fill in the blank on the 2 schools too. They are two different schools. Could both be better schools than middle Tennessee btw


That alone shows your disrespect. So pardon me for not giving a crap about you trying to downplay a good season while saying we will suck again in the near future

Oh save it, I'm not raining on your parade in game threads, I'm not trolling your boards, I'm not going out of my way to crap on F_U FAU or FIU.

The subject of this thread is the success of F_U FAU and FIU and my position on that is "I'll believe it when I see it" and I outlined why I believe that.

And then a couple of butthurt F_U FAU fans went on the offensive against my alma mater(as if our owm success as a program has anything to do with the conversation about the success of F_U FAU and FIU) and dramatically misrepresenting my point.

So again, I'm sorry if my pragmatic view of things offends you or makes you feel as if I'm raining on the first positives out of F_U FAU and FIU in approaching a decade(for one half of F_U FAU anyhow) but I'll try harder to stay on topic in the future.

What wae the topic of this thread again? The success of F_U FAU and FIU?

Oh, okay.

I'll believe it when I see it.

Well you saw it this year when your school in podunk middle Tennessee lost by 3 scores

Don't take me defending my school and pointing out your lack of innocence as being butt hurt or offended either

You are as irrelevant as your alma mater to me

I am pleased as punch. These coaches and teams have changed the culture. No one is a true pushover in our conference. I can't recall a season when football was so competitive from top to bottom. The Florida schools are enjoying some long overdue success. If the emergence of these and other programs in our conference doesn't raise the life force, nothing will.

(10-29-2017 10:54 PM)Ragu Wrote:  Well you saw it this year when your school in podunk middle Tennessee lost by 3 scores

Don't take me defending my school and pointing out your lack of innocence as being butt hurt or offended either

You are as irrelevant as your alma mater to me

There you go again, "podunk Middle Tennessee", what a baseless potshot, Murfreesboro is ~50% larger than Boca.

And what does this year's score have to do with my point?

You guys got your fourth win in fifteen tries, congratulations, this conversation is about long term success and as always, I'll believe it when I see it.

And what is there to even defend? What have I said negative about FAU or Boca? I've literally only pointed to your own history.

The leagues potential is starting to come alive. Imagine 10 bowling teams?

(10-29-2017 11:09 PM)SApuro Wrote:  The leagues potential is starting to come alive. Imagine 10 bowling teams?

You never know. I for one am glad to see it. A lot of programs who started up less than 20 years ago. The guys acting like having a 90 year head start means nothing are ridiculous because it takes time to build from scratch

10 bowl eligible teams would suggest that C-USA has the most of anyone in the FBS. That would be exciting. I, however, think that getting that 10th team will be a bit of a chore.

(10-29-2017 11:09 PM)SApuro Wrote:  The leagues potential is starting to come alive. Imagine 10 bowling teams?

You're welcome

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(10-29-2017 11:13 AM)Cyniclone Wrote:  So FAU, FIU, UCF and USF are all having sterling seasons in a year where Florida and FSU are having a bed-crapping competition.

Great timeline or greatest timeline?

Definitely interesting timeline.

Don't worry - MT has a history of being snubbed. We'll get our 6 (maybe even 7) wins but we'll sit our asses at home.

(10-30-2017 10:06 AM)MTowho Wrote:  Don't worry - MT has a history of being snubbed. We'll get our 6 (maybe even 7) wins but we'll sit our asses at home.

How many times since we've been at the 1-A level ?

And then, when we are not snubbed, we go to Hawaii and Bahamas, where most fans are unable to attend.

(10-30-2017 06:44 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 11:09 PM)SApuro Wrote:  The leagues potential is starting to come alive. Imagine 10 bowling teams?

You never know. I for one am glad to see it. A lot of programs who started up less than 20 years ago. The guys acting like having a 90 year head start means nothing are ridiculous because it takes time to build from scratch

I'm really not sure what you imagine our "90 year head start" means in actual concrete advantage.

How do our games against local prep schools 100 years ago help us?

Hell, how do OVC games 20 years ago help us?

How's USF doing these days despite our head start on them?

(10-30-2017 10:40 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 06:44 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 11:09 PM)SApuro Wrote:  The leagues potential is starting to come alive. Imagine 10 bowling teams?

You never know. I for one am glad to see it. A lot of programs who started up less than 20 years ago. The guys acting like having a 90 year head start means nothing are ridiculous because it takes time to build from scratch

I'm really not sure what you imagine our "90 year head start" means in actual concrete advantage.

How do our games against local prep schools 100 years ago help us?

Hell, how do OVC games 20 years ago help us?

How's USF doing these days despite our head start on them?

I can not provide any insight on the other points but I may have some on the last point: USF's sheer size has allowed them to advance rather quickly (sometimes - without the supporting athletic evidence) from I-AA to I-A Independent in 4 years, from I-A Independent to C-USA in 2 years, from C-USA to Big East in 2 years. Had MTSU had the enrollment size of the USF, I bet, they would be farther along, 90 years or not.

Also, USF was curiously helped by hitting the early stages of the Great Restructuring, which took them out of the C-USA into the Big East (I mean they were actually a losing C-USA team when Big East took a gamble on them)

(10-30-2017 10:46 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 10:40 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 06:44 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 11:09 PM)SApuro Wrote:  The leagues potential is starting to come alive. Imagine 10 bowling teams?

You never know. I for one am glad to see it. A lot of programs who started up less than 20 years ago. The guys acting like having a 90 year head start means nothing are ridiculous because it takes time to build from scratch

I'm really not sure what you imagine our "90 year head start" means in actual concrete advantage.

How do our games against local prep schools 100 years ago help us?

Hell, how do OVC games 20 years ago help us?

How's USF doing these days despite our head start on them?

I can not provide any insight on the other points but I may have some on the last point: USF's sheer size has allowed them to advance rather quickly (sometimes - without the supporting athletic evidence) from I-AA to I-A Independent in 4 years, from I-A Independent to C-USA in 2 years, from C-USA to Big East in 2 years. Had MTSU had the enrollment size of the USF, I bet, they would be farther along, 90 years or not.

Also, USF was curiously helped by hitting the early stages of the Great Restructuring, which took them out of the C-USA into the Big East (I mean they were actually a losing C-USA team when Big East took a gamble on them)

UCF and FIU have larger enrollments, no?

(10-30-2017 10:46 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 10:40 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 06:44 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 11:09 PM)SApuro Wrote:  The leagues potential is starting to come alive. Imagine 10 bowling teams?

You never know. I for one am glad to see it. A lot of programs who started up less than 20 years ago. The guys acting like having a 90 year head start means nothing are ridiculous because it takes time to build from scratch

I'm really not sure what you imagine our "90 year head start" means in actual concrete advantage.

How do our games against local prep schools 100 years ago help us?

Hell, how do OVC games 20 years ago help us?

How's USF doing these days despite our head start on them?

I can not provide any insight on the other points but I may have some on the last point: USF's sheer size has allowed them to advance rather quickly (sometimes - without the supporting athletic evidence) from I-AA to I-A Independent in 4 years, from I-A Independent to C-USA in 2 years, from C-USA to Big East in 2 years. Had MTSU had the enrollment size of the USF, I bet, they would be farther along, 90 years or not.

UT-obnoxiousville does NOT want us to grow............. In fact, we have actually gotten smaller over the past few years, even with our city expected to reach 155,000 or so with this year's special census.

But the state of Florida has a much larger population-base.

(10-30-2017 10:49 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 10:46 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 10:40 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 06:44 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 11:09 PM)SApuro Wrote:  The leagues potential is starting to come alive. Imagine 10 bowling teams?

You never know. I for one am glad to see it. A lot of programs who started up less than 20 years ago. The guys acting like having a 90 year head start means nothing are ridiculous because it takes time to build from scratch

I'm really not sure what you imagine our "90 year head start" means in actual concrete advantage.

How do our games against local prep schools 100 years ago help us?

Hell, how do OVC games 20 years ago help us?

How's USF doing these days despite our head start on them?

I can not provide any insight on the other points but I may have some on the last point: USF's sheer size has allowed them to advance rather quickly (sometimes - without the supporting athletic evidence) from I-AA to I-A Independent in 4 years, from I-A Independent to C-USA in 2 years, from C-USA to Big East in 2 years. Had MTSU had the enrollment size of the USF, I bet, they would be farther along, 90 years or not.

Also, USF was curiously helped by hitting the early stages of the Great Restructuring, which took them out of the C-USA into the Big East (I mean they were actually a losing C-USA team when Big East took a gamble on them)

UCF and FIU have larger enrollments, no?

I was comparing MTSU and USF and why USF rise was much faster than MTSU despite a far shorter history. FIU is still only in the beginning of their trajectory. They are only 5 years younger than USF's program but the timing (coinciding with the great upheaval) help the Bulls and occurred too early for the Golden Panthers and the FAU Owls.

I have a feeling, FAU and FIU (more so than my Owls) would have been in AAC today by way of the Big East had they started playing in 1997, like the USF Bulls.