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(10-29-2017 08:53 AM)fanhood Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 08:05 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Unless Boise wins out, the MWC will have a couple of three loss teams in their championship game

No, look at the schedules. It will likely be a 10-2 Boise vs a 10-2 sdsu. Fresno is not going to two win at Wyoming or beat Boise at home.

wyoming is bad...fresno will likely lose to boise, but Wyoming is pure wishful thinking, because you want sdsu to win the division ...wyoming collpses on anyone with a pulse

even their unm blowout was decieving..they struggled badly all first quarter, then unm gave them 7 turnovers on 10yd fields, wyoming inflated the score in the second quarter... and went back to sucking the 3rd quarter ..running out clock in the 4th

im not even sure i can say boise doesnt lose 1 more, csu/air force/fresno could all beat boise
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(10-29-2017 09:08 AM)fanhood Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 08:59 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 08:53 AM)fanhood Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 08:05 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Unless Boise wins out, the MWC will have a couple of three loss teams in their championship game

No, look at the schedules. It will likely be a 10-2 Boise vs a 10-2 Fresno State. Fresno is not going to two win at Wyoming or beat Boise at home.

Hmm Fresno has three losses already

Sorry, meant "a 10-2 Bose vs a 10-2 SDSU."

Got it. Still keeping those hope up.?
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(10-29-2017 09:08 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 08:53 AM)fanhood Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 08:05 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Unless Boise wins out, the MWC will have a couple of three loss teams in their championship game

No, look at the schedules. It will likely be a 10-2 Boise vs a 10-2 sdsu. Fresno is not going to two win at Wyoming or beat Boise at home.

wyoming is bad...they will lose to boise, but wyoming is pure wishful thinking, because you want sdsu to win the division ...wyoming collpses on anyone with a pulse

even their unm blowout was decieving..they struggled badly all first quarter, then unm gave them 7 turnovers on 10yd fields, wyoming inflated the score in the second quarter... and went back to sucking the 3rd quarter ..running out clock in the 4th

Obviously, I wish that.

But Wyoming is tough at home. You do not appreciate how hard it is to win at the Front Range Schools. But you shouldn't, as most people don't. They just destroyed UNM, the same team that destroyed AFA, the same team that Navy needed a 2 minute drill to beat. Wyoming is not "bad," at least not now, and at least not at Home. Be objective.

Hell, winning @ Hawaii has its unique challenges.

Agree with your statement about Boise. But they appear to be getting better and more dominant.
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(10-29-2017 08:03 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 12:16 AM)fanhood Wrote:  New Mexico beats Tulsa who beat Houston who beat USF. Thus New Mexico is the second best team in the AAC. See, this is stupid.

Do you honestly think your example and his are alike? 01-wingedeagle

Right.
Look quickly at the Composite rankings compiled by Massey before they update. Houston was 61 before beating USF. That's an example of "the top half of our league are all competitive and comparable"
UNLV was 111th - in the bottom 20 of all of FBS along with three other mwc teams. A mwc frontrunner got beat by a bottom 20 team. The Howard comment wasn't some kind of transitive thing, it was just highlight how bad those bottom teams are.
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RE: MWC
(10-29-2017 09:08 AM)fanhood Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 08:59 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 08:53 AM)fanhood Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 08:05 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Unless Boise wins out, the MWC will have a couple of three loss teams in their championship game

No, look at the schedules. It will likely be a 10-2 Boise vs a 10-2 Fresno State. Fresno is not going to two win at Wyoming or beat Boise at home.

Hmm Fresno has three losses already

Sorry, meant "a 10-2 Bose vs a 10-2 SDSU."

Of course SDST will win out. The next two games are against 1 and 8 and 1 and 7 teams, plus they play a 3 and 5 team. Not a whole lot of competition for them to lose to.

On the other hand, Boise could lose to Air Force, who is playing well again, and Fresno, depending on which Fresno team shows up.
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(10-29-2017 09:10 AM)fanhood Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 09:08 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 08:53 AM)fanhood Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 08:05 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Unless Boise wins out, the MWC will have a couple of three loss teams in their championship game

No, look at the schedules. It will likely be a 10-2 Boise vs a 10-2 sdsu. Fresno is not going to two win at Wyoming or beat Boise at home.

wyoming is bad...they will lose to boise, but wyoming is pure wishful thinking, because you want sdsu to win the division ...wyoming collpses on anyone with a pulse

even their unm blowout was decieving..they struggled badly all first quarter, then unm gave them 7 turnovers on 10yd fields, wyoming inflated the score in the second quarter... and went back to sucking the 3rd quarter ..running out clock in the 4th

Obviously, I wish that.

But Wyoming is tough at home. You do not appreciate how hard it is to win at the Front Range Schools. But you shouldn't, as most people don't. They just destroyed UNM, the same team that destroyed AFA, the same team that Navy needed a 2 minute drill to beat. Wyoming is not "bad," at least not now, and at least not at Home. Be objective.

Hell, winning @ Hawaii has its unique challenges.

Agree with your statement about Boise. But they appear to be getting better and more dominant.

you don't realize you are biased when you are...

you can't look at wyomings resume (inflated with trash wins) and think they beat fresno

and they didnt "destroy" unm..unm shut down wyoming for 3 quarter ..unm started throwing (a triple option) and had something like 6 int drives in a quarter ...that gave wyoming tiny fields....do you see fresno having 7 turnovers?...
wyoming scored a TD on 1 of 11 drives on fields longer than 40yds

you always mix "want" with "likely"

i think boise loses 1 more, fresno losses atleast 1 more (byu/ boise), sdsu probably runs the table
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(10-29-2017 09:26 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 09:10 AM)fanhood Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 09:08 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 08:53 AM)fanhood Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 08:05 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Unless Boise wins out, the MWC will have a couple of three loss teams in their championship game

No, look at the schedules. It will likely be a 10-2 Boise vs a 10-2 sdsu. Fresno is not going to two win at Wyoming or beat Boise at home.

wyoming is bad...they will lose to boise, but wyoming is pure wishful thinking, because you want sdsu to win the division ...wyoming collpses on anyone with a pulse

even their unm blowout was decieving..they struggled badly all first quarter, then unm gave them 7 turnovers on 10yd fields, wyoming inflated the score in the second quarter... and went back to sucking the 3rd quarter ..running out clock in the 4th

Obviously, I wish that.

But Wyoming is tough at home. You do not appreciate how hard it is to win at the Front Range Schools. But you shouldn't, as most people don't. They just destroyed UNM, the same team that destroyed AFA, the same team that Navy needed a 2 minute drill to beat. Wyoming is not "bad," at least not now, and at least not at Home. Be objective.

Hell, winning @ Hawaii has its unique challenges.

Agree with your statement about Boise. But they appear to be getting better and more dominant.

you don't realize you are biased when you are...

you can't look at wyomings resume (inflated with trash wins) and think they beat fresno

and they didnt "destroy" unm..unm shut down wyoming for 3 quarter ..unm started throwing (a triple option) and had something like 6 int drives in a quarter ...that gave wyoming tiny fields....do you see fresno having 7 turnovers?...
wyoming scored a TD on 1 of 11 drives on fields longer than 40yds

you always mix "want" with "likely"

i think boise loses 1 more, fresno losses atleast 1 more (byu/ boise), sdsu probably runs the table

Pesik, I would think after my "horrendous" and "laughable" predictions, that turned out to be true, you would stop talking absolutes. Wyo dominated a decent UNM team in Laramie. ThebFresno game is being played in Laramie. If it was in Fresnobi would think differently. Let's wait until the game, but I would expect Fresno to be the underdog at Wyo and at home to Boise. Relax. Nothing I am saying here is out in Keft Field.

Plus, why are you concerned? I thought the AAC doesn't have to worry about teams from he MW?
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(10-29-2017 10:01 AM)fanhood Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 09:26 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 09:10 AM)fanhood Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 09:08 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 08:53 AM)fanhood Wrote:  No, look at the schedules. It will likely be a 10-2 Boise vs a 10-2 sdsu. Fresno is not going to two win at Wyoming or beat Boise at home.

wyoming is bad...they will lose to boise, but wyoming is pure wishful thinking, because you want sdsu to win the division ...wyoming collpses on anyone with a pulse

even their unm blowout was decieving..they struggled badly all first quarter, then unm gave them 7 turnovers on 10yd fields, wyoming inflated the score in the second quarter... and went back to sucking the 3rd quarter ..running out clock in the 4th

Obviously, I wish that.

But Wyoming is tough at home. You do not appreciate how hard it is to win at the Front Range Schools. But you shouldn't, as most people don't. They just destroyed UNM, the same team that destroyed AFA, the same team that Navy needed a 2 minute drill to beat. Wyoming is not "bad," at least not now, and at least not at Home. Be objective.

Hell, winning @ Hawaii has its unique challenges.

Agree with your statement about Boise. But they appear to be getting better and more dominant.

you don't realize you are biased when you are...

you can't look at wyomings resume (inflated with trash wins) and think they beat fresno

and they didnt "destroy" unm..unm shut down wyoming for 3 quarter ..unm started throwing (a triple option) and had something like 6 int drives in a quarter ...that gave wyoming tiny fields....do you see fresno having 7 turnovers?...
wyoming scored a TD on 1 of 11 drives on fields longer than 40yds

you always mix "want" with "likely"

i think boise loses 1 more, fresno losses atleast 1 more (byu/ boise), sdsu probably runs the table

Pesik, I would think after my "horrendous" and "laughable" predictions, that turned out to be true, you would stop talking absolutes. Wyo dominated a decent UNM team in Laramie. ThebFresno game is being played in Laramie. If it was in Fresnobi would think differently. Let's wait until the game, but I would expect Fresno to be the underdog at Wyo and at home to Boise. Relax. Nothing I am saying here is out in Keft Field.

Plus, why are you concerned? I thought the AAC doesn't have to worry about teams from he MW?

your MWC predictions were pure trash...
like horrible... you literally only got 2 teams correct....and only 2 more can be correct depending on the byu games...

and your aac prediction were not too far off but you called toss up games that were easy blowout wins for the AAC,...
if you remember, my issue with your predictions was that individually not one prediction was bad but not one upset anywhere, while you found ridiculous upsets in the mwc...that is bias..you found zero upsets on the league you root against..calling toss ups for blowout games, but found plenty in the league you root for

when tulsa played unm, you said zero percent chance they beat toledo and unm (extremely close games)..but when they played a better navy..you said tulsa had a real chance to beat navy (because it benefited sdsu)...how are you not noticing your bias

also if fresno beat byus there is zero percent chance, zero percent chance! Wyoming will be favored...single game upsets dont affect projections that much

and why am i concerned? because there is thread about it in the AAC forum...if there was a thread in the AAC forum about how utsa would win c-usa west..id tell them unt almost had it locked...im not worried about c-usa either
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Real Time RPI is the first computer rankings system to update after yesterday's results.

14) UCF
15) South Florida
25) Memphis
32) SAN DIEGO STATE
33) BOISE STATE
34) Navy
38) Southern Methodist
40) Houston
65) COLORADO STATE
66) WYOMING
73) FRESNO STATE
74) Tulane
79) AIR FORCE
83) Temple
98) UTAH STATE
99) Cincinnati
102) NEW MEXICO
104) UNLV
109) East Carolina
111) Tulsa
116) Connecticut
119) HAWAII
135) NEVADA
158) SAN JOSE STATE

So, the top 3 schools are all from the American and the bottom three are all from the MWC.
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(10-29-2017 11:03 AM)CornellCoog Wrote:  Real Time RPI is the first computer rankings system to update after yesterday's results.

14) UCF
15) South Florida
25) Memphis
32) SAN DIEGO STATE
33) BOISE STATE
34) Navy
38) Southern Methodist
40) Houston
65) COLORADO STATE
66) WYOMING
73) FRESNO STATE
74) Tulane
79) AIR FORCE
83) Temple
98) UTAH STATE
99) Cincinnati
102) NEW MEXICO
104) UNLV
109) East Carolina
111) Tulsa
116) Connecticut
119) HAWAII
135) NEVADA
158) SAN JOSE STATE

So, the top 3 schools are all from the American and the bottom three are all from the MWC.

And notice the separation. The AAC is intermixed with other really good P6 schools. One quarter of the AAC is in the top 25.
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(10-29-2017 10:01 AM)fanhood Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 09:26 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 09:10 AM)fanhood Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 09:08 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 08:53 AM)fanhood Wrote:  No, look at the schedules. It will likely be a 10-2 Boise vs a 10-2 sdsu. Fresno is not going to two win at Wyoming or beat Boise at home.

wyoming is bad...they will lose to boise, but wyoming is pure wishful thinking, because you want sdsu to win the division ...wyoming collpses on anyone with a pulse

even their unm blowout was decieving..they struggled badly all first quarter, then unm gave them 7 turnovers on 10yd fields, wyoming inflated the score in the second quarter... and went back to sucking the 3rd quarter ..running out clock in the 4th

Obviously, I wish that.

But Wyoming is tough at home. You do not appreciate how hard it is to win at the Front Range Schools. But you shouldn't, as most people don't. They just destroyed UNM, the same team that destroyed AFA, the same team that Navy needed a 2 minute drill to beat. Wyoming is not "bad," at least not now, and at least not at Home. Be objective.

Hell, winning @ Hawaii has its unique challenges.

Agree with your statement about Boise. But they appear to be getting better and more dominant.

you don't realize you are biased when you are...

you can't look at wyomings resume (inflated with trash wins) and think they beat fresno

and they didnt "destroy" unm..unm shut down wyoming for 3 quarter ..unm started throwing (a triple option) and had something like 6 int drives in a quarter ...that gave wyoming tiny fields....do you see fresno having 7 turnovers?...
wyoming scored a TD on 1 of 11 drives on fields longer than 40yds

you always mix "want" with "likely"

i think boise loses 1 more, fresno losses atleast 1 more (byu/ boise), sdsu probably runs the table

Pesik, I would think after my "horrendous" and "laughable" predictions, that turned out to be true, you would stop talking absolutes. Wyo dominated a decent UNM team in Laramie. ThebFresno game is being played in Laramie. If it was in Fresnobi would think differently. Let's wait until the game, but I would expect Fresno to be the underdog at Wyo and at home to Boise. Relax. Nothing I am saying here is out in Keft Field.

Plus, why are you concerned? I thought the AAC doesn't have to worry about teams from he MW?

Nobody here is concerned with MW. The only person discussing them seriously is you. Everyone else is talking about which AAC team will go the the access bowl.
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6 of the top 8 in CornellCoog's list are in the AAC.
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