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RE: MBB Open Practice - Observations & Thoughts
(10-28-2017 07:34 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  
(10-28-2017 07:16 PM)757ODU Wrote:  Those of you doubting Jones for his comments about playing faster...get ready because it's happening. Not once did he slow them down. Caver has complete control offensively. If he runs...we will run. Our guys can finish and we can shoot the ball. I don't know how good we will be, but the future looks amazing. I am not someone to get overly excited about something, but we really have something to be excited about in 2018.

We played a 1-3-1 zone and with Xavier, Ahmad, BJ, Brandan, and Randy on the floor...the other team had a hard time getting any shots off. They had their hands on every third pass. This year's team is incredibly athletic.

In the end I would not say this is a tournament team RIGHT NOW, however, I do believe it could turn into one. We have talent, if we can stay out of foul trouble.

757, thanks for a great report. I hope that you are dead on in your assessment of this year's team. It will make for a fun season.

A question, which I hope is not taken as negativity, but I really am curious: Is it possible that our "starting" 6: Ahmad, Xavier, BJ, Randy, Brandon and Trey looked as good as they did primarily because there is such a talent gap once you get past them?

If that is the case, then this year's puff-ball schedule might be exactly what is needed -- at least until the rest of the team can start to mesh.

I would say yes but we have seen these guys be good.
10-28-2017 09:43 PM
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(10-28-2017 08:11 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  
(10-28-2017 07:16 PM)757ODU Wrote:  Alright Mac..Just as you requested.

I did not stay for the tour of the practice facility.

Practice breakdown: It was a long scrimmage with various lineups playing. Jones played just about every combination.

Caver- WOW. The kid has developed into a pure star. His vision is absolutely amazing. On the break he sees everything. I said he had over 10 assists but I am actually thinking he had 15-18 now that I really think about it. The best part about Caver last night was that he didn't have to force anything. His shots were open shots and dribble drive. I don't think I saw him take one three (we know he can make those). His stat line had to be close to 15 pts and 15 assists.

BJ- He was great as well. He hit every open shot he got and is electric in the open floor.

Randy- Took some bad shots but as a defender he is elite. He will instantly replace Baker's production defensively and will double his offensive outputs. He got an open look from three and drilled it and it looked about as routine as it gets.

Brandan- Best I have ever seen him play. Post moves and ran the floor and found the open area. He had at least 20 pts. AT LEAST. He fouled way too much. Saw him pick up 3 fouls in a minute and a half.

Porter- Injury is nothing to worry about. He was also great. His post moves were amazing. Post defense was lacking a little bit but we know what we will get from him.

Hueitt- Struggled big time. You can tell he can play and is ready for division 1 basketball but he is a gunslinger. When he is open...it's going up. Didn't shoot well but it was probably just one of those days from a freshman.

Godwin- Legitimate sharpshooter. His form is perfect. In the future he will be an incredible scorer. Love his game.

Carver- Same player.

Alfis- Nothing to see this year but he can shoot. HE MUST REDSHIRT.

Picnkney- Turned the ball over way too much but is a clear leader on the floor. He is very vocal.

Xavier- I waited for him to be last because I am almost at a loss for words. He knocked down a deep three with a quick release. His midrange game is amazing. He is so special. Vision, shooting, rebounding, athleticism, etc...Just awesome.

Mac you asked about kithcart and he is legit. Next year we may have the two best point guards in the conference on our roster. He is a pest on defense and he can shoot the basketball. We are set at point guard for a long time.

Those of you doubting Jones for his comments about playing faster...get ready because it's happening. Not once did he slow them down. Caver has complete control offensively. If he runs...we will run. Our guys can finish and we can shoot the ball. I don't know how good we will be, but the future looks amazing. I am not someone to get overly excited about something, but we really have something to be excited about in 2018.

We played a 1-3-1 zone and with Xavier, Ahmad, BJ, Brandan, and Randy on the floor...the other team had a hard time getting any shots off. They had their hands on every third pass. This year's team is incredibly athletic.

In the end I would not say this is a tournament team RIGHT NOW, however, I do believe it could turn into one. We have talent, if we can stay out of foul trouble.

Godwin can’t guard a mailbox. BJ posted him up twice and he fouled him both times before BJ even got the ball.

His D is going to have to improve or else he is useless if he isn’t scoring (and he is a streaky shooter).

Could be true about his d. Probably is true. Picked the positives.
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I see Godwin redshirting. There are too many players ahead of him in the 3 position.
10-29-2017 07:46 AM
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(10-28-2017 07:16 PM)757ODU Wrote:  Alfis- Nothing to see this year but he can shoot. HE MUST REDSHIRT.

Thanks for the report 757. I'm wondering out loud if we have the luxury of redshirting Alfis considering our lack of depth at the 4/5 spots. When Brandan and Porter get in foul trouble, would we rather see AC and Vassor out there, or would you rather pull the redshirt on Alfis?
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I would guess it will be mainly BJ and Carver as primary backup options and Vasser when it really hits the fan.
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(10-29-2017 10:01 AM)odu09 Wrote:  
(10-28-2017 07:16 PM)757ODU Wrote:  Alfis- Nothing to see this year but he can shoot. HE MUST REDSHIRT.

Thanks for the report 757. I'm wondering out loud if we have the luxury of redshirting Alfis considering our lack of depth at the 4/5 spots. When Brandan and Porter get in foul trouble, would we rather see AC and Vassor out there, or would you rather pull the redshirt on Alfis?

Alfis is a more of a SF. At 6-4 he can't play the PF not in CUSA.
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(10-29-2017 10:01 AM)odu09 Wrote:  
(10-28-2017 07:16 PM)757ODU Wrote:  Alfis- Nothing to see this year but he can shoot. HE MUST REDSHIRT.

Thanks for the report 757. I'm wondering out loud if we have the luxury of redshirting Alfis considering our lack of depth at the 4/5 spots. When Brandan and Porter get in foul trouble, would we rather see AC and Vassor out there, or would you rather pull the redshirt on Alfis?

We would be better off with AC and Stephen.
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(10-29-2017 10:01 AM)odu09 Wrote:  
(10-28-2017 07:16 PM)757ODU Wrote:  Alfis- Nothing to see this year but he can shoot. HE MUST REDSHIRT.

Thanks for the report 757. I'm wondering out loud if we have the luxury of redshirting Alfis considering our lack of depth at the 4/5 spots. When Brandan and Porter get in foul trouble, would we rather see AC and Vassor out there, or would you rather pull the redshirt on Alfis?

We would be better off with AC and Stephen.

yes and perhaps BJ if the other team goes small. You can bet the teams we play are going to go inside out against us. Once they draw 2 fouls on Brandon in the first half we are toast. Loosing Kah & McClinton is huge.
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The first sub was Green for Porter and they moved BJ to the 4.
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(10-29-2017 10:45 AM)757ODU Wrote:  The first sub was Green for Porter and they moved BJ to the 4.

What time is the closed scrimmage today?
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(10-29-2017 10:49 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 10:45 AM)757ODU Wrote:  The first sub was Green for Porter and they moved BJ to the 4.

What time is the closed scrimmage today?

No idea. Coach should know that.
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(10-29-2017 10:26 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  
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(10-29-2017 10:01 AM)odu09 Wrote:  
(10-28-2017 07:16 PM)757ODU Wrote:  Alfis- Nothing to see this year but he can shoot. HE MUST REDSHIRT.

Thanks for the report 757. I'm wondering out loud if we have the luxury of redshirting Alfis considering our lack of depth at the 4/5 spots. When Brandan and Porter get in foul trouble, would we rather see AC and Vassor out there, or would you rather pull the redshirt on Alfis?

We would be better off with AC and Stephen.

yes and perhaps BJ if the other team goes small. You can bet the teams we play are going to go inside out against us. Once they draw 2 fouls on Brandon in the first half we are toast. Loosing Kah & McClinton is huge.

I knew about McClinton. What the heck happened to Kah?!!?
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(10-29-2017 04:48 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 10:26 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 10:15 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 10:01 AM)odu09 Wrote:  
(10-28-2017 07:16 PM)757ODU Wrote:  Alfis- Nothing to see this year but he can shoot. HE MUST REDSHIRT.

Thanks for the report 757. I'm wondering out loud if we have the luxury of redshirting Alfis considering our lack of depth at the 4/5 spots. When Brandan and Porter get in foul trouble, would we rather see AC and Vassor out there, or would you rather pull the redshirt on Alfis?

We would be better off with AC and Stephen.

yes and perhaps BJ if the other team goes small. You can bet the teams we play are going to go inside out against us. Once they draw 2 fouls on Brandon in the first half we are toast. Loosing Kah & McClinton is huge.

I knew about McClinton. What the heck happened to Kah?!!?

Back....while nothing is finalized yet, he is likely done for the season.
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(10-29-2017 04:53 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 04:48 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 10:26 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 10:15 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 10:01 AM)odu09 Wrote:  Thanks for the report 757. I'm wondering out loud if we have the luxury of redshirting Alfis considering our lack of depth at the 4/5 spots. When Brandan and Porter get in foul trouble, would we rather see AC and Vassor out there, or would you rather pull the redshirt on Alfis?

We would be better off with AC and Stephen.

yes and perhaps BJ if the other team goes small. You can bet the teams we play are going to go inside out against us. Once they draw 2 fouls on Brandon in the first half we are toast. Loosing Kah & McClinton is huge.

I knew about McClinton. What the heck happened to Kah?!!?

Back....while nothing is finalized yet, he is likely done for the season.

I thought I heard him say he was having surgery this week after the Open Practice.
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Yes, surgery I think is Thursday. I spoke to Kah at length since he had a bunch of question after I told him I had back surgery 4 weeks a go. He seemed to be thinking he could get up and leave right after surgery. I told him it seem like surgeons want you to stay at least one night even with the minimally invasive surgery being done now.
I told him I stayed two nights but that I am old, fat and have had two stents put in my heart!! I told him the worst thing he can do is try to rush it. Both he and McClinton talked like they expect to get a medical redshirt.
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(10-29-2017 10:12 PM)Monarch Homselr Wrote:  Yes, surgery I think is Thursday. I spoke to Kah at length since he had a bunch of question after I told him I had back surgery 4 weeks a go. He seemed to be thinking he could get up and leave right after surgery. I told him it seem like surgeons want you to stay at least one night even with the minimally invasive surgery being done now.
I told him I stayed two nights but that I am old, fat and have had two stents put in my heart!! I told him the worst thing he can do is try to rush it. Both he and McClinton talked like they expect to get a medical redshirt.

Kah’s medical would be pretty much guaranteed. He checks all the boxes: season ending injury (with little to no chance to return this season following the surgery), within his 5 year window, hasn’t redshirted before.

Mcclinton’s will be interesting. I doubt he is able to return this season (not sure when he had the surgery), 5 year clock is up this year and he has redshirted.

The NCAA would have to be in a very giving mood to give Mcclinton another redshirt
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Dont'cha just love that NCAA....but can't find enough evidence for darling UNC to even get a slap on the hand????
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Curious to hear thoughts on The Mitch. What did you all think?
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(10-30-2017 09:02 AM)MonarchsWon Wrote:  Curious to hear thoughts on The Mitch. What did you all think?

I thought it was a beautiful facility. They were still working on the finishing touches while we were there for the tour. Wall decals/logos, etc. were still going up. The lounge/locker room struck me as small, but nice. The coaches offices are really nice with a glass wall that looks out over the practice floor. Separate film rooms for men and women were sweet, with big leather chairs in stadium-style seating.
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