(10-27-2017 02:37 PM)CornellCoog Wrote:  A Georgetown fan is exactly who I would expect to hurl academic smack. There isn't a single kid at Georgetown that wasn't rejected by somewhere better. And, yeah, I know I went to Cornell, the least of the Ivies.

OK Mr. Ivy-Donald Trump. How does it feel to be associated with a Junior College school? But they have a great basketball program right?

The smell of butthurt is large.

(10-27-2017 01:09 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  The Big Pee is absolutely trending down. They made a little noise with a bounty of at-large bids (winning very few NCAA games) based on a mirage - aka RPI hacking strategy - which was cute (the MVC did the same back in 2006 and finished 4th in RPI in the country). But the general public isn't stupid, they know the Pee is nothing but the dregs of the old Big East and a couple new mid-majors sprinkled in for filler.

Villanova, a poor man's version of UCONN, is now the leader of this new church conference and should be able to continue to win as long as nothing really crazy happens inside the program; i.e. sexual deviancy charges. Eventually the Pee will settle around 2-3 bids a year (in a strong year) with the AAC settling around 4-5. The AAC just has bigger brands than Pee, and while a couple are currently down, they'll be back. If current National Power Wichita State continues on their expected trend, this reality of a 4-5 bid average will happen sooner rather than later.

Considering the fact that the AAC plays football, preference will be made to broadcast AAC games in all sports on the major networks where a contract is signed... over Church League ball. When the Fox Sports contract runs out, it will surely be renegotiated lower as it's been a net loser for Fox. Priest-ball started off with a bang, but fizzled quickly as the brand recognition of the Big East name had an expiration date - which just happens to be quickly approaching. All the low-information basketball fans have been tuning in (after they locate the channel) to Big East games saying, "WTF?! Where is Syracuse, UCONN, Pitt, Notre Dame, Cincy, Louisville, etc." They soon realize they're watching a game of Suburban H.O.R.S.E. between the Omaha BJ's and Seton Fail and they're like... *click* *click* *clickity* *click*


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Really?

BE has been 4th, 2nd, 4th, and 3rd in RPI over the past 4 years.

The BE earned 6, 11, 12 and 13 NCAA units over the past 4 years. So, its actually trending upward in its NCAA performance. The AAC has earned 11, 3, 5 and 3 over the same time period.

The BE conference is doing just fine on the court.

TV Contract lasts until 2025.

BTW, FS1 is in 85+ million homes at $.80-1.00 per household per month. A good reason why FS1 is on basic cable in Phily, Chicago, Cincinnati, Milwaukee, Omaha, Indianapolis, New York, and DC is because of the BE schools. $60 million for the BE is a bargain for FS1. It differs from the AAC which are mostly, second tier teams in their home states. No one is dropping ESPN in Dallas if SMU isn't on the network or in Wichita if Wichita State's conference is dumped by ESPN. Those schools don't really push the needle. But, there is no way FS1 is on basic cable in Milwaukee if Marquette gets dropped.

As for interest, the BE averaged over 10,000 fans per game (about double the AAC) and the BE tournament had about three times as many attendees per game than the AAC tournament last year. Historically, the most teams in the AAC and in the Valley are close in terms of fan support (and quality of play too, with the obvious exception of UC, Memphis and UConn). Unfortunately for the AAC, Memphis and UConn are down. The rest of the AAC is currently no better than the Valley (well, except for SMU and their fall will be hard and fast when Brown's recruits are gone). When WSU plays in front of 300 at Houston or taking 3 planes to get to the ECU game so they can play in front of a few score keepers and cheerleaders, they will be wishing they could go back to the glory days of playing Drake and Missouri State.

Official gif of this thread. Well done CB.

They need Georgetown to deliver. They have some national cache with about 3 to 5 programs, but unfortunately the Hoyas and Golden Warriors are both very down relative to program strength.

I don't really mind the Big East, because they do a good job at showing the country that you don't have to be P5 to be enjoyable to watch.

Is this Cold’s attempt to get back on the good side of AAC fans after he’s triggered the large majority of them these past few months? I’m on board. Maybe we’ll snag an appearance from DJA himself.

(10-27-2017 02:52 PM)AndShock Wrote:  Is this Cold’s attempt to get back on the good side of AAC fans after he’s triggered the large majority of them these past few months? I’m on board. Maybe we’ll snag an appearance from DJA himself.

So you're telling me there are shocker fans (like yourself?) that aren't as annoying or obnoxious as him? Get outta here!

(10-27-2017 02:52 PM)AndShock Wrote:  Is this Cold’s attempt to get back on the good side of AAC fans after he’s triggered the large majority of them these past few months? I’m on board. Maybe we’ll snag an appearance from DJA himself.

That would really bring this thing full circle. Maybe throw in a Rasputin for good measure.

Just when I start to think that Cold is an amateur level troll, he conjures up his best BC1 imitation and gives us this thread. Big East peeps are like a moth to a flame on this one. Bravo, fine sir. Bravo.

(10-27-2017 03:05 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  Just when I start to think that Cold is an amateur level troll, he conjures up his best BC1 imitation and gives us this thread. Big East peeps are like a moth to a flame on this one. Bravo, fine sir. Bravo.

oh its mostly me. I happen to stop by the other day and read the PC v Uconn game and thought the banter was pretty entertaining so i told the others on our board to come check it out for some good laughs. Then I seen he did this so I thought i'd have some fun too.

To be fair, I only see 2 WSU posters here that's getting everyone riled up. Keep in mind, I too am a troll and I have a 4 year old at home so I know how to get down to "their" level.

(10-27-2017 02:42 PM)MU88 Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 01:09 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  The Big Pee is absolutely trending down. They made a little noise with a bounty of at-large bids (winning very few NCAA games) based on a mirage - aka RPI hacking strategy - which was cute (the MVC did the same back in 2006 and finished 4th in RPI in the country). But the general public isn't stupid, they know the Pee is nothing but the dregs of the old Big East and a couple new mid-majors sprinkled in for filler.

Villanova, a poor man's version of UCONN, is now the leader of this new church conference and should be able to continue to win as long as nothing really crazy happens inside the program; i.e. sexual deviancy charges. Eventually the Pee will settle around 2-3 bids a year (in a strong year) with the AAC settling around 4-5. The AAC just has bigger brands than Pee, and while a couple are currently down, they'll be back. If current National Power Wichita State continues on their expected trend, this reality of a 4-5 bid average will happen sooner rather than later.

Considering the fact that the AAC plays football, preference will be made to broadcast AAC games in all sports on the major networks where a contract is signed... over Church League ball. When the Fox Sports contract runs out, it will surely be renegotiated lower as it's been a net loser for Fox. Priest-ball started off with a bang, but fizzled quickly as the brand recognition of the Big East name had an expiration date - which just happens to be quickly approaching. All the low-information basketball fans have been tuning in (after they locate the channel) to Big East games saying, "WTF?! Where is Syracuse, UCONN, Pitt, Notre Dame, Cincy, Louisville, etc." They soon realize they're watching a game of Suburban H.O.R.S.E. between the Omaha BJ's and Seton Fail and they're like... *click* *click* *clickity* *click*


Thoughts?


T


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Really?

BE has been 4th, 2nd, 4th, and 3rd in RPI over the past 4 years.

The BE earned 6, 11, 12 and 13 NCAA units over the past 4 years. So, its actually trending upward in its NCAA performance. The AAC has earned 11, 3, 5 and 3 over the same time period.

The BE conference is doing just fine on the court.

TV Contract lasts until 2025.

BTW, FS1 is in 85+ million homes at $.80-1.00 per household per month. A good reason why FS1 is on basic cable in Phily, Chicago, Cincinnati, Milwaukee, Omaha, Indianapolis, New York, and DC is because of the BE schools. $60 million for the BE is a bargain for FS1. It differs from the AAC which are mostly, second tier teams in their home states. No one is dropping ESPN in Dallas if SMU isn't on the network or in Wichita if Wichita State's conference is dumped by ESPN. Those schools don't really push the needle. But, there is no way FS1 is on basic cable in Milwaukee if Marquette gets dropped.

As for interest, the BE averaged over 10,000 fans per game (about double the AAC) and the BE tournament had about three times as many attendees per game than the AAC tournament last year. Historically, the most teams in the AAC and in the Valley are close in terms of fan support (and quality of play too, with the obvious exception of UC, Memphis and UConn). Unfortunately for the AAC, Memphis and UConn are down. The rest of the AAC is currently no better than the Valley (well, except for SMU and their fall will be hard and fast when Brown's recruits are gone). When WSU plays in front of 300 at Houston or taking 3 planes to get to the ECU game so they can play in front of a few score keepers and cheerleaders, they will be wishing they could go back to the glory days of playing Drake and Missouri State.

LoL! This guy is trying to tell me a conference that has schools with enrollments as low as 4k is the reason why a channel is on basic cable. It's called a loss-leader bro and believe me... the losses are piling up! Fox took a MAJOR flyer on the Church League and they've been doing everything under the sun to promote it (including adding it to some basic cable packages). The eyeballs on Big Pee basketball games are few and far between and it's only getting worse.

P.S. The brilliant and timely addition of powerhouse Wichita State to the AAC caused an immediate impact on the future of the Church League. You're losing one hacked bid next year to us - and quite possibly 2 (because of our effect on the league). A rising power lifts alllll boats.


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(10-27-2017 03:08 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  LoL! This guy is trying to tell me a conference that has schools with enrollments as low as 4k is the reason why a channel is on basic cable.

That's 'cause they don't accept every applicant that applies to their school. They have whats called....standards.

(10-27-2017 03:07 PM)ivet Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 03:05 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  Just when I start to think that Cold is an amateur level troll, he conjures up his best BC1 imitation and gives us this thread. Big East peeps are like a moth to a flame on this one. Bravo, fine sir. Bravo.

oh its mostly me. I happen to stop by the other day and read the PC v Uconn game and thought the banter was pretty entertaining so i told the others on our board to come check it out for some good laughs. Then I seen he did this so I thought i'd have some fun too.

To be fair, I only see 2 WSU posters here that's getting everyone riled up. Keep in mind, I too am a troll and I have a 4 year old at home so I know how to get down to "their" level.

Don't EVER comment on Wichita State academics again. This was no fat-fingered typo, this was 100% pure Hoyalistic - bordering on - UNC-Cheat literary greatness. Your brain is broke dude. Stick to basketball.


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(10-27-2017 03:14 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 03:07 PM)ivet Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 03:05 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  Just when I start to think that Cold is an amateur level troll, he conjures up his best BC1 imitation and gives us this thread. Big East peeps are like a moth to a flame on this one. Bravo, fine sir. Bravo.

oh its mostly me. I happen to stop by the other day and read the PC v Uconn game and thought the banter was pretty entertaining so i told the others on our board to come check it out for some good laughs. Then I seen he did this so I thought i'd have some fun too.

To be fair, I only see 2 WSU posters here that's getting everyone riled up. Keep in mind, I too am a troll and I have a 4 year old at home so I know how to get down to "their" level.

Don't EVER comment on Wichita State academics again. This was no fat-fingered typo, this was 100% pure Hoyalistic - bordering on - UNC-Cheat literary greatness. Your brain is broke dude. Stick to basketball.


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(10-27-2017 03:07 PM)ivet Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 03:05 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  Just when I start to think that Cold is an amateur level troll, he conjures up his best BC1 imitation and gives us this thread. Big East peeps are like a moth to a flame on this one. Bravo, fine sir. Bravo.

oh its mostly me. I happen to stop by the other day and read the PC v Uconn game and thought the banter was pretty entertaining so i told the others on our board to come check it out for some good laughs. Then I seen he did this so I thought i'd have some fun too.

To be fair, I only see 2 WSU posters here that's getting everyone riled up. Keep in mind, I too am a troll and I have a 4 year old at home so I know how to get down to "their" level.

I was pretty fired up by Cold the other day and was glad to see that our former Big East mates had our back in that PC-UConn thread. However, now I see how Cold stirs the pot and I must admit that he does have mad troll skills. I have gained a new respect for his ability to keep these threads going by tossing out relentless barbs.

(10-27-2017 03:16 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 03:07 PM)ivet Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 03:05 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  Just when I start to think that Cold is an amateur level troll, he conjures up his best BC1 imitation and gives us this thread. Big East peeps are like a moth to a flame on this one. Bravo, fine sir. Bravo.

oh its mostly me. I happen to stop by the other day and read the PC v Uconn game and thought the banter was pretty entertaining so i told the others on our board to come check it out for some good laughs. Then I seen he did this so I thought i'd have some fun too.

To be fair, I only see 2 WSU posters here that's getting everyone riled up. Keep in mind, I too am a troll and I have a 4 year old at home so I know how to get down to "their" level.

I was pretty fired up by Cold the other day and was glad to see that our former Big East mates had our back in that PC-UConn thread. However, now I see how Cold stirs the pot and I must admit that he does have mad troll skills. I have gained a new respect for his ability to keep these threads going by tossing out relentless barbs.

He is quite entertaining but I guess that goes without saying when you attend Clown State University. He has kept my Friday afternoon entertaining. I might swing by in a few weeks and duke it out with him again when I'm bored.

(10-27-2017 03:14 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 03:07 PM)ivet Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 03:05 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  Just when I start to think that Cold is an amateur level troll, he conjures up his best BC1 imitation and gives us this thread. Big East peeps are like a moth to a flame on this one. Bravo, fine sir. Bravo.

oh its mostly me. I happen to stop by the other day and read the PC v Uconn game and thought the banter was pretty entertaining so i told the others on our board to come check it out for some good laughs. Then I seen he did this so I thought i'd have some fun too.

To be fair, I only see 2 WSU posters here that's getting everyone riled up. Keep in mind, I too am a troll and I have a 4 year old at home so I know how to get down to "their" level.

Don't EVER comment on Wichita State academics again. This was no fat-fingered typo, this was 100% pure Hoyalistic - bordering on - UNC-Cheat literary greatness. Your brain is broke dude. Stick to basketball.


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lol that’s pretty classic right there.

The big east will never be what it once was but you can't go out here and call it a dumpster fire.
the AAC is improving quickly tho