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RE: Matthews versus Withers
(10-27-2017 11:36 AM)Dukester Wrote:  
(10-26-2017 08:09 PM)olddawg Wrote:  Rooting for Mickey... Withers should have an advantage with a full complement of "FBS" players. Coastal is probably not even up to 85 schollies yet, and a good portion of those were recruited when CCU was still FCS (and Big South at that). Yet CCU is an 8 point favorite. Shows how talented the Texas State Armadillos roster is!

He's still changing the culture at TSU. 03-lmfao

Why certainly, especially since he's smarter than everybody else, don't believe me, just ask him.
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RE: Matthews versus Withers
(10-27-2017 11:36 AM)Dukester Wrote:  
(10-26-2017 08:09 PM)olddawg Wrote:  Rooting for Mickey... Withers should have an advantage with a full complement of "FBS" players. Coastal is probably not even up to 85 schollies yet, and a good portion of those were recruited when CCU was still FCS (and Big South at that). Yet CCU is an 8 point favorite. Shows how talented the Texas State Armadillos roster is!

He's still changing the culture at TSU. 03-lmfao

Yep.........from bad to worse
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(10-27-2017 09:01 AM)HyperDuke Wrote:  I know one poster that I would love to hear their honest opinion on this...

Do we really want to go there?
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(10-27-2017 10:19 AM)olddawg Wrote:  
(10-27-2017 09:46 AM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  we should do a home and home! :)

Gotta give Texas State some props. That is a nice lookin' 30k stadium.


They do...
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as does Norht Texas

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RE: Matthews versus Withers
(10-27-2017 02:14 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  
(10-27-2017 09:01 AM)HyperDuke Wrote:  I know one poster that I would love to hear their honest opinion on this...

Do we really want to go there?

I would love to see you & JMUNation discuss this!
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(10-26-2017 07:54 PM)Dukester Wrote:  https://twitter.com/coastalfootball?lang=en

Who ya rooting for between the two?

02-13-banana

How is this even a question? I assuming you're directing this to non-JMU fans.
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Matthews versus Withers
Are whale tails common in college football stadiums? Asking for a north Texas friend.
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(10-27-2017 07:47 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  MM and it shouldn't even be a question. Both were considered defensive minded coaches, but only one lived up to that moniker.
So many tend to look at his last years at JMU, but forget all the greatness he did for us. MM made JMU football relevant. National Championship. We beat Tech. App State home game. We have loads to thank Mickey for.
Withers gave us pretty uniforms.

I would love to know the reason someone would pick Withers over MM.

Here is one reason just to fuel the Dukester flame.
JMU winning percentage...
Withers 72%
Matthews 61%

Granted, MM reached the pinnacle in 2004 and Withers was only here 2 years.
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(10-27-2017 04:25 PM)Potomac Wrote:  Are whale tails common in college football stadiums? Asking for a north Texas friend.


For sure... time for a dukedog hind leg section above PAC
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(10-27-2017 06:33 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  
(10-27-2017 04:25 PM)Potomac Wrote:  Are whale tails common in college football stadiums? Asking for a north Texas friend.


For sure... time for a dukedog hind leg section above PAC
That would be en fuego

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(10-27-2017 05:37 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  
(10-27-2017 07:47 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  MM and it shouldn't even be a question. Both were considered defensive minded coaches, but only one lived up to that moniker.
So many tend to look at his last years at JMU, but forget all the greatness he did for us. MM made JMU football relevant. National Championship. We beat Tech. App State home game. We have loads to thank Mickey for.
Withers gave us pretty uniforms.

I would love to know the reason someone would pick Withers over MM.

Here is one reason just to fuel the Dukester flame.
JMU winning percentage...
Withers 72%
Matthews 61%

Granted, MM reached the pinnacle in 2004 and Withers was only here 2 years.
In games that mattered (versus playoff teams) Withers: 1-5, about 17% winning percentage:
L @ VU (14')
W @ RU (14')
L Liberty (14')
L vs RU (15')
L @ W&M (15')
L Colgate (15')

Now MM was 7-5 in the playoffs. If you add regular season vs playoff teams over his 15 seasons, I'm sure he had a losing record, but nothing as bad as the 17% Withers had.
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RE: Matthews versus Withers
(10-27-2017 05:37 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  
(10-27-2017 07:47 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  MM and it shouldn't even be a question. Both were considered defensive minded coaches, but only one lived up to that moniker.
So many tend to look at his last years at JMU, but forget all the greatness he did for us. MM made JMU football relevant. National Championship. We beat Tech. App State home game. We have loads to thank Mickey for.
Withers gave us pretty uniforms.

I would love to know the reason someone would pick Withers over MM.

Here is one reason just to fuel the Dukester flame.
JMU winning percentage...
Withers 72%
Matthews 61%

Granted, MM reached the pinnacle in 2004 and Withers was only here 2 years.

My fuel is from winning big games and especially playoff games not losing as a multiple TD favorite.
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Both coaches had shortcomings which is why neither is still here.
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I was wondering why nobody bothered to report this JMU bowl score.
It was because the wrong team won 27-7 and that terrible withers D shut out the green chickens for the final 50 minutes of the game. Ouch. How awful is ccu?
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(10-28-2017 10:48 PM)Potomac Wrote:  I was wondering why nobody bothered to report this JMU bowl score.
It was because the wrong team won 27-7 and that terrible withers D shut out the green chickens for the final 50 minutes of the game. Ouch. How awful is ccu?

Coastal has only two FBS level recruiting classes. Most of their upperclassmen are still Big South caliber. Not surprised.
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A battle of crappy teams. Withers offense shredded Mickey’s defense for 500 yards.
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Mickey was in hburg Friday for the Alumni golf tournament.
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(10-29-2017 10:09 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  Mickey was in hburg Friday for the Alumni golf tournament.

Wait, what? I'd fire him in a heartbeat if I was the HC.
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(10-29-2017 10:43 AM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 10:09 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  Mickey was in hburg Friday for the Alumni golf tournament.

Wait, what? I'd fire him in a heartbeat if I was the HC.

I am sure moglia knew about it.

Would you have fired dabo for going down to Alabama for a reunion earlier this year?
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(10-29-2017 12:23 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 10:43 AM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 10:09 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  Mickey was in hburg Friday for the Alumni golf tournament.

Wait, what? I'd fire him in a heartbeat if I was the HC.

I am sure moglia knew about it.

Would you have fired dabo for going down to Alabama for a reunion earlier this year?

Turns out I was wrong - it was a Mickey impersonator. I mean literally looked just like him. I blame bourbon.
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