(10-31-2017 05:04 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  Those who live/work far from DeKalb will generally not attend these weeknight games. So the appeal needs to be made to the locals. Looking at the west side attendees, many are old and infirm. I have seen people on oxygen and disabled folks who had to be carried to their seats. It would certainly be next to impossible to get these folks out on a cold November night. Many other fans I see are families with young children. With familial commitments and kids doing homework and other activities, attending a weeknight game is also impossible. Plus, Mom and/or Dad can watch the game at home on TV.

Bottom line: Nothing will work to get the stadium more filled on November weeknights. NIU needs to pressure the MAC to get as many weekend games as possible, and then work on mending relationships with fans to get them back. If the NIU and the other MAC teams are simply thrilled with the exposure, then they all deserve to have empty stadiums and dwindling fan bases.

LMAO, are you serious? Our stadium is full of octogenarians on death's door that have to be carried to their seats? Yep, that's why attendance is down on weeknights - the wheels on our Huskie fans walkers freeze up and they can't roll properly so the old folks stay home.

I have young kids and we do a plethora of things on weeknights. I have driven to the strip on numerous occasions to catch a UNLV basketball game on a weeknight. Just one example, plenty of others. Trust me, every family with kids does all kinds of things on weeknights. To say that it is "impossible" for a family to make a weeknight football game is patently incorrect, as well as ludicrous.

Furthermore, it's a little exhausting listening to pampered Huskie fans whine about how cold it is on a weeknight in November. I remember - it can get bitter cold. I, too, remember how downright balmy and gorgeous the weather is every single Saturday afternoon in November. It's always in the 70's and sunny on weekends, right?

Please, Dog Fan and everyone else, stop already. If you don't want to attend weeknight games, just say you don't want to go. I get it that you would rather watch on television. It doesn't make you a bad fan.

This song and dance, however, that fans "can't" attend weeknight games is a farce. In fact, I would love to take my kids to watch some live UNLV football, however our Saturdays are all booked up because my kids play sports. Here's an update for all of you who don't have kids: youth sports play their games on Saturdays. Every sport. Everywhere. Saturday isn't some magic day that everyone is free to bring their families. Many of us have commitments on this day that make attending a college football game, as Dog Fan put it, "impossible".[/b]

Ohio drew 18,000 last night on Halloween. I would love to have the equivalent fan base support that Ohio has in football and hoops. Very impressive

(11-01-2017 05:52 AM)ChicagoHuskie Wrote:  Ohio drew 18,000 last night on Halloween. I would love to have the equivalent fan base support that Ohio has in football and hoops. Very impressive

I watched some of it and thought it was an impressive crowd for Maction......especially on Halloween. Same record, and although they have been successful for several years, it’s nothing like our success the past 10 years

(10-31-2017 10:00 PM)VegasHuskie Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 05:04 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  Those who live/work far from DeKalb will generally not attend these weeknight games. So the appeal needs to be made to the locals. Looking at the west side attendees, many are old and infirm. I have seen people on oxygen and disabled folks who had to be carried to their seats. It would certainly be next to impossible to get these folks out on a cold November night. Many other fans I see are families with young children. With familial commitments and kids doing homework and other activities, attending a weeknight game is also impossible. Plus, Mom and/or Dad can watch the game at home on TV.

Bottom line: Nothing will work to get the stadium more filled on November weeknights. NIU needs to pressure the MAC to get as many weekend games as possible, and then work on mending relationships with fans to get them back. If the NIU and the other MAC teams are simply thrilled with the exposure, then they all deserve to have empty stadiums and dwindling fan bases.

LMAO, are you serious? Our stadium is full of octogenarians on death's door that have to be carried to their seats? Yep, that's why attendance is down on weeknights - the wheels on our Huskie fans walkers freeze up and they can't roll properly so the old folks stay home.

I have young kids and we do a plethora of things on weeknights. I have driven to the strip on numerous occasions to catch a UNLV basketball game on a weeknight. Just one example, plenty of others. Trust me, every family with kids does all kinds of things on weeknights. To say that it is "impossible" for a family to make a weeknight football game is patently incorrect, as well as ludicrous.

Furthermore, it's a little exhausting listening to pampered Huskie fans whine about how cold it is on a weeknight in November. I remember - it can get bitter cold. I, too, remember how downright balmy and gorgeous the weather is every single Saturday afternoon in November. It's always in the 70's and sunny on weekends, right?

Please, Dog Fan and everyone else, stop already. If you don't want to attend weeknight games, just say you don't want to go. I get it that you would rather watch on television. It doesn't make you a bad fan.

This song and dance, however, that fans "can't" attend weeknight games is a farce. In fact, I would love to take my kids to watch some live UNLV football, however our Saturdays are all booked up because my kids play sports. Here's an update for all of you who don't have kids: youth sports play their games on Saturdays. Every sport. Everywhere. Saturday isn't some magic day that everyone is free to bring their families. Many of us have commitments on this day that make attending a college football game, as Dog Fan put it, "impossible".[/b]

Yes, I am serious about seeing the invalids at Huskie Stadium. They have had to be helped to their seats. And they should be praised for their commitment. There aren't many, but there are quite a few. I have seen one guy who literally had to be carried to his seat by an usher.

It is obvious what your agenda is. You want these games on national TV so that you can see them. I DON'T want to see them on TV. I want to be there, but cannot for three weeknights a season. My dream would be for all games to be on a Saturday and not on TV outside of the Midwest. Then the "great" fans like you will actually have to fly in to see a game. By the way, how many weeknight games have you flown in to see? And, don't give us the excuse that you're in Vegas. It's just an excuse. You COULD get to DeKalb if you really wanted to.

(10-30-2017 10:49 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 09:40 AM)calvin12 Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 02:26 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  What I don't understand is the supposed hard core fans who say they love NIU football but don't think it's worth 1 vaca day? I get it if you only get two weeks and they're accounted for already, but I find it hard to believe that's most people's situation. To me it feels like when you're used to getting something for free for a long time and you really enjoy it, then suddenly you have to pay for it and you refuse to because it was free for so long. To me vacation days are to be spent on things You enjoy.

Many people get PTO not vacation, sure they can plan to use it for an 4 NIU games, but when happens when they get sick and don't have the PTO, what happens when a kid gets sick and the parent needs to use PTO for that instead of the game. Its great to think "just schedule it off" but the real world does not work like that. things come up.

There is no real world. There's your world, my world and everyone else's world. We all have our own vacation or pto schedules. My point was about only needing 4 hours of pto for these games. that shouldn't wipe out your ability to call in sick. You're making it sound like you need 40 hours of time off to get out to dekalb on a weeknight. We are talking about 7,000 fans. Not all of them can't spare 4 hours a year. If you can't or your pto isn't flexible, sure then I understand, but I'm going to assume not everyone of the other 6,999 are in that boat.

Mine is unusually flexible and I still won't use the time for a cold weeknight game. Most people have far less than I do in PTO.

(10-31-2017 01:29 PM)huskiealum03 Wrote:  What successful business ever takes the approach that "our product is what it

*other than Apple*

(10-31-2017 10:00 PM)VegasHuskie Wrote:  I have young kids and we do a plethora of things on weeknights. I have driven to the strip on numerous occasions to catch a UNLV basketball game on a weeknight. Just one example, plenty of others. Trust me, every family with kids does all kinds of things on weeknights. To say that it is "impossible" for a family to make a weeknight football game is patently incorrect, as well as ludicrous.

Furthermore, it's a little exhausting listening to pampered Huskie fans whine about how cold it is on a weeknight in November. I remember - it can get bitter cold. I, too, remember how downright balmy and gorgeous the weather is every single Saturday afternoon in November. It's always in the 70's and sunny on weekends, right?

I take my kid out on weeknights to do things also. You go to BB games (indoors) in Vegas (good weather). you expect us to sit outside in the cold? 40 and sunny fells a lot better than 35 and dark. Yes, we'd be at Saturday games for at least part of them in the cold. Not for a weeknight (schoolnight) game in the cold that we night not get home until midnight.

(10-31-2017 10:00 PM)VegasHuskie Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 05:04 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  Those who live/work far from DeKalb will generally not attend these weeknight games. So the appeal needs to be made to the locals. Looking at the west side attendees, many are old and infirm. I have seen people on oxygen and disabled folks who had to be carried to their seats. It would certainly be next to impossible to get these folks out on a cold November night. Many other fans I see are families with young children. With familial commitments and kids doing homework and other activities, attending a weeknight game is also impossible. Plus, Mom and/or Dad can watch the game at home on TV.

Bottom line: Nothing will work to get the stadium more filled on November weeknights. NIU needs to pressure the MAC to get as many weekend games as possible, and then work on mending relationships with fans to get them back. If the NIU and the other MAC teams are simply thrilled with the exposure, then they all deserve to have empty stadiums and dwindling fan bases.

LMAO, are you serious? Our stadium is full of octogenarians on death's door that have to be carried to their seats? Yep, that's why attendance is down on weeknights - the wheels on our Huskie fans walkers freeze up and they can't roll properly so the old folks stay home.

I have young kids and we do a plethora of things on weeknights. I have driven to the strip on numerous occasions to catch a UNLV basketball game on a weeknight. Just one example, plenty of others. Trust me, every family with kids does all kinds of things on weeknights. To say that it is "impossible" for a family to make a weeknight football game is patently incorrect, as well as ludicrous.

Furthermore, it's a little exhausting listening to pampered Huskie fans whine about how cold it is on a weeknight in November. I remember - it can get bitter cold. I, too, remember how downright balmy and gorgeous the weather is every single Saturday afternoon in November. It's always in the 70's and sunny on weekends, right?

Please, Dog Fan and everyone else, stop already. If you don't want to attend weeknight games, just say you don't want to go. I get it that you would rather watch on television. It doesn't make you a bad fan.

This song and dance, however, that fans "can't" attend weeknight games is a farce. In fact, I would love to take my kids to watch some live UNLV football, however our Saturdays are all booked up because my kids play sports. Here's an update for all of you who don't have kids: youth sports play their games on Saturdays. Every sport. Everywhere. Saturday isn't some magic day that everyone is free to bring their families. Many of us have commitments on this day that make attending a college football game, as Dog Fan put it, "impossible".[/b]

You are wrong and it is not a farce. I may be one of those fans that Dog Fan is referring to; I don't need help to get to my seat, but I have to use a cane and struggle with each game I go to. To most walking from the Convo parking lot to the stadium and back is no big deal, but for me it is a serious struggle. I have loved and continue loving going to home games (and some away games) since 1983. Despite the struggle and having substantially increased pain for days I still go to games, but I simply cannot go to these night games in November. I have been to every home game this year, but simply cannot go to the last 2 games, unless the weather is OK. The last November night game I was at was against WMU in JLs senior year when it was bitterly cold, windy and snowing. My son (who was born with muscle defects and has serious problems with his legs with the cold) and I both said this is the last November night game for us. After that game I gave up my season tickets. While I can arrange my schedule so I could go to all home games, I simply can’t go to these cold night games; and could not go even if the games were on Saturdays. This is not a choice between attending and watching on TV.

(11-01-2017 11:43 AM)NILAW Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 10:00 PM)VegasHuskie Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 05:04 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  Those who live/work far from DeKalb will generally not attend these weeknight games. So the appeal needs to be made to the locals. Looking at the west side attendees, many are old and infirm. I have seen people on oxygen and disabled folks who had to be carried to their seats. It would certainly be next to impossible to get these folks out on a cold November night. Many other fans I see are families with young children. With familial commitments and kids doing homework and other activities, attending a weeknight game is also impossible. Plus, Mom and/or Dad can watch the game at home on TV.

Bottom line: Nothing will work to get the stadium more filled on November weeknights. NIU needs to pressure the MAC to get as many weekend games as possible, and then work on mending relationships with fans to get them back. If the NIU and the other MAC teams are simply thrilled with the exposure, then they all deserve to have empty stadiums and dwindling fan bases.

LMAO, are you serious? Our stadium is full of octogenarians on death's door that have to be carried to their seats? Yep, that's why attendance is down on weeknights - the wheels on our Huskie fans walkers freeze up and they can't roll properly so the old folks stay home.

I have young kids and we do a plethora of things on weeknights. I have driven to the strip on numerous occasions to catch a UNLV basketball game on a weeknight. Just one example, plenty of others. Trust me, every family with kids does all kinds of things on weeknights. To say that it is "impossible" for a family to make a weeknight football game is patently incorrect, as well as ludicrous.

Furthermore, it's a little exhausting listening to pampered Huskie fans whine about how cold it is on a weeknight in November. I remember - it can get bitter cold. I, too, remember how downright balmy and gorgeous the weather is every single Saturday afternoon in November. It's always in the 70's and sunny on weekends, right?

Please, Dog Fan and everyone else, stop already. If you don't want to attend weeknight games, just say you don't want to go. I get it that you would rather watch on television. It doesn't make you a bad fan.

This song and dance, however, that fans "can't" attend weeknight games is a farce. In fact, I would love to take my kids to watch some live UNLV football, however our Saturdays are all booked up because my kids play sports. Here's an update for all of you who don't have kids: youth sports play their games on Saturdays. Every sport. Everywhere. Saturday isn't some magic day that everyone is free to bring their families. Many of us have commitments on this day that make attending a college football game, as Dog Fan put it, "impossible".[/b]

You are wrong and it is not a farce. I may be one of those fans that Dog Fan is referring to; I don't need help to get to my seat, but I have to use a cane and struggle with each game I go to. To most walking from the Convo parking lot to the stadium and back is no big deal, but for me it is a serious struggle. I have loved and continue loving going to home games (and some away games) since 1983. Despite the struggle and having substantially increased pain for days I still go to games, but I simply cannot go to these night games in November. I have been to every home game this year, but simply cannot go to the last 2 games, unless the weather is OK. The last November night game I was at was against WMU in JLs senior year when it was bitterly cold, windy and snowing. My son (who was born with muscle defects and has serious problems with his legs with the cold) and I both said this is the last November night game for us. After that game I gave up my season tickets. While I can arrange my schedule so I could go to all home games, I simply can’t go to these cold night games; and could not go even if the games were on Saturdays. This is not a choice between attending and watching on TV.

Dude, that was one seriously cold game. I wore ski pants and was chilled to the bone.

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(11-01-2017 12:09 PM)Teamduh Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 11:43 AM)NILAW Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 10:00 PM)VegasHuskie Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 05:04 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  Those who live/work far from DeKalb will generally not attend these weeknight games. So the appeal needs to be made to the locals. Looking at the west side attendees, many are old and infirm. I have seen people on oxygen and disabled folks who had to be carried to their seats. It would certainly be next to impossible to get these folks out on a cold November night. Many other fans I see are families with young children. With familial commitments and kids doing homework and other activities, attending a weeknight game is also impossible. Plus, Mom and/or Dad can watch the game at home on TV.

Bottom line: Nothing will work to get the stadium more filled on November weeknights. NIU needs to pressure the MAC to get as many weekend games as possible, and then work on mending relationships with fans to get them back. If the NIU and the other MAC teams are simply thrilled with the exposure, then they all deserve to have empty stadiums and dwindling fan bases.

LMAO, are you serious? Our stadium is full of octogenarians on death's door that have to be carried to their seats? Yep, that's why attendance is down on weeknights - the wheels on our Huskie fans walkers freeze up and they can't roll properly so the old folks stay home.

I have young kids and we do a plethora of things on weeknights. I have driven to the strip on numerous occasions to catch a UNLV basketball game on a weeknight. Just one example, plenty of others. Trust me, every family with kids does all kinds of things on weeknights. To say that it is "impossible" for a family to make a weeknight football game is patently incorrect, as well as ludicrous.

Furthermore, it's a little exhausting listening to pampered Huskie fans whine about how cold it is on a weeknight in November. I remember - it can get bitter cold. I, too, remember how downright balmy and gorgeous the weather is every single Saturday afternoon in November. It's always in the 70's and sunny on weekends, right?

Please, Dog Fan and everyone else, stop already. If you don't want to attend weeknight games, just say you don't want to go. I get it that you would rather watch on television. It doesn't make you a bad fan.

This song and dance, however, that fans "can't" attend weeknight games is a farce. In fact, I would love to take my kids to watch some live UNLV football, however our Saturdays are all booked up because my kids play sports. Here's an update for all of you who don't have kids: youth sports play their games on Saturdays. Every sport. Everywhere. Saturday isn't some magic day that everyone is free to bring their families. Many of us have commitments on this day that make attending a college football game, as Dog Fan put it, "impossible".[/b]

You are wrong and it is not a farce. I may be one of those fans that Dog Fan is referring to; I don't need help to get to my seat, but I have to use a cane and struggle with each game I go to. To most walking from the Convo parking lot to the stadium and back is no big deal, but for me it is a serious struggle. I have loved and continue loving going to home games (and some away games) since 1983. Despite the struggle and having substantially increased pain for days I still go to games, but I simply cannot go to these night games in November. I have been to every home game this year, but simply cannot go to the last 2 games, unless the weather is OK. The last November night game I was at was against WMU in JLs senior year when it was bitterly cold, windy and snowing. My son (who was born with muscle defects and has serious problems with his legs with the cold) and I both said this is the last November night game for us. After that game I gave up my season tickets. While I can arrange my schedule so I could go to all home games, I simply can’t go to these cold night games; and could not go even if the games were on Saturdays. This is not a choice between attending and watching on TV.

Dude, that was one seriously cold game. I wore ski pants and was chilled to the bone.

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Two games I have been most miserable at were that WMU game you speak (only time Ive ever had to leave because of the weather), and the 2005 game @ Toledo. That was worth freezing in though to see the Rocket hex broken.

(10-31-2017 10:00 PM)VegasHuskie Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 05:04 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  Those who live/work far from DeKalb will generally not attend these weeknight games. So the appeal needs to be made to the locals. Looking at the west side attendees, many are old and infirm. I have seen people on oxygen and disabled folks who had to be carried to their seats. It would certainly be next to impossible to get these folks out on a cold November night. Many other fans I see are families with young children. With familial commitments and kids doing homework and other activities, attending a weeknight game is also impossible. Plus, Mom and/or Dad can watch the game at home on TV.

Bottom line: Nothing will work to get the stadium more filled on November weeknights. NIU needs to pressure the MAC to get as many weekend games as possible, and then work on mending relationships with fans to get them back. If the NIU and the other MAC teams are simply thrilled with the exposure, then they all deserve to have empty stadiums and dwindling fan bases.

LMAO, are you serious? Our stadium is full of octogenarians on death's door that have to be carried to their seats? Yep, that's why attendance is down on weeknights - the wheels on our Huskie fans walkers freeze up and they can't roll properly so the old folks stay home.

I have young kids and we do a plethora of things on weeknights. I have driven to the strip on numerous occasions to catch a UNLV basketball game on a weeknight. Just one example, plenty of others. Trust me, every family with kids does all kinds of things on weeknights. To say that it is "impossible" for a family to make a weeknight football game is patently incorrect, as well as ludicrous.

Furthermore, it's a little exhausting listening to pampered Huskie fans whine about how cold it is on a weeknight in November. I remember - it can get bitter cold. I, too, remember how downright balmy and gorgeous the weather is every single Saturday afternoon in November. It's always in the 70's and sunny on weekends, right?

Please, Dog Fan and everyone else, stop already. If you don't want to attend weeknight games, just say you don't want to go. I get it that you would rather watch on television. It doesn't make you a bad fan.

This song and dance, however, that fans "can't" attend weeknight games is a farce. In fact, I would love to take my kids to watch some live UNLV football, however our Saturdays are all booked up because my kids play sports. Here's an update for all of you who don't have kids: youth sports play their games on Saturdays. Every sport. Everywhere. Saturday isn't some magic day that everyone is free to bring their families. Many of us have commitments on this day that make attending a college football game, as Dog Fan put it, "impossible".[/b]

One of the dumber posts I've read on here...

If you think a weeknight game starting at 5 pm or 6 pm is the same as a Saturday at 2 pm, we can really stop the discussion, there's no use discussing the topic with you. Take a look at any sport's attendance for comparable situations...or heck any entertainment industry! Try to buy a ticket to a Saturday concert, then look at the same price/availability for Tuesday at 6 PM.

Whether it's the right or wrong decision for NIU/MAC with MACtion can be debated...trying to say it doesn't have an affect on attendance and that it doesn't affect decisions for people to go, just dumb man.

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Two games I have been most miserable at were that WMU game you speak (only time Ive ever had to leave because of the weather), and the 2005 game @ Toledo. That was worth freezing in though to see the Rocket hex broken.
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Yep, was at both of those, just awful. Only thing that made them worthwhile? W's. I couldn't feel my feet after the 2005 Toledo game for like 3 hours.

The whole argument is stupid. I'd love to know how many midweek November Huskie Stadium games Vegas has been to in the last 10 years.

I wasn't at the Toledo game but I was at the WMU game. Ironically I had rented one of those seats with the back on it, figuring it would be too cold to sit directly on those aluminum bleachers. I ended up so cold I had to stand and walk around for a good part of the game (and went into the tunnel during breaks in play). Sitting down just made me colder, so I didn't use the seatback much. Pretty sure only diehard, masochistic people were left by the end of that game. I really don't know how people sit through NFL games in January.

Vegas and myself weren't denying the midweek games are less desirable to attend. We were saying people who are claiming "I can't" really mean "I don't want to". Everyone has a cost vs satisfaction point. Midweek games for some are at too high of a cost. That cost can be vacation time, weather, traffic or whatever. But some here say it's impossible to make. Thats BS for almost everyone. It's just that most who aren't attending plain old don't think it's worth it. The reward cost is too high.

Some seem to get offended If you point out that they're choosing not to go. As if by them saying it's impossible gives them a pass and their fan loyalty isn't called into question. We all have lives and obligations, no one persons situation should be applied to the 1,000s who are missing from these games. For a very few, it is impossible to attend, but if you're going to generalize the thousands not showing up - they don't want to - is the most accurate answer.

(11-01-2017 12:09 PM)Teamduh Wrote:  

(11-01-2017 11:43 AM)NILAW Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 10:00 PM)VegasHuskie Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 05:04 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  Those who live/work far from DeKalb will generally not attend these weeknight games. So the appeal needs to be made to the locals. Looking at the west side attendees, many are old and infirm. I have seen people on oxygen and disabled folks who had to be carried to their seats. It would certainly be next to impossible to get these folks out on a cold November night. Many other fans I see are families with young children. With familial commitments and kids doing homework and other activities, attending a weeknight game is also impossible. Plus, Mom and/or Dad can watch the game at home on TV.

Bottom line: Nothing will work to get the stadium more filled on November weeknights. NIU needs to pressure the MAC to get as many weekend games as possible, and then work on mending relationships with fans to get them back. If the NIU and the other MAC teams are simply thrilled with the exposure, then they all deserve to have empty stadiums and dwindling fan bases.

LMAO, are you serious? Our stadium is full of octogenarians on death's door that have to be carried to their seats? Yep, that's why attendance is down on weeknights - the wheels on our Huskie fans walkers freeze up and they can't roll properly so the old folks stay home.

I have young kids and we do a plethora of things on weeknights. I have driven to the strip on numerous occasions to catch a UNLV basketball game on a weeknight. Just one example, plenty of others. Trust me, every family with kids does all kinds of things on weeknights. To say that it is "impossible" for a family to make a weeknight football game is patently incorrect, as well as ludicrous.

Furthermore, it's a little exhausting listening to pampered Huskie fans whine about how cold it is on a weeknight in November. I remember - it can get bitter cold. I, too, remember how downright balmy and gorgeous the weather is every single Saturday afternoon in November. It's always in the 70's and sunny on weekends, right?

Please, Dog Fan and everyone else, stop already. If you don't want to attend weeknight games, just say you don't want to go. I get it that you would rather watch on television. It doesn't make you a bad fan.

This song and dance, however, that fans "can't" attend weeknight games is a farce. In fact, I would love to take my kids to watch some live UNLV football, however our Saturdays are all booked up because my kids play sports. Here's an update for all of you who don't have kids: youth sports play their games on Saturdays. Every sport. Everywhere. Saturday isn't some magic day that everyone is free to bring their families. Many of us have commitments on this day that make attending a college football game, as Dog Fan put it, "impossible".[/b]

You are wrong and it is not a farce. I may be one of those fans that Dog Fan is referring to; I don't need help to get to my seat, but I have to use a cane and struggle with each game I go to. To most walking from the Convo parking lot to the stadium and back is no big deal, but for me it is a serious struggle. I have loved and continue loving going to home games (and some away games) since 1983. Despite the struggle and having substantially increased pain for days I still go to games, but I simply cannot go to these night games in November. I have been to every home game this year, but simply cannot go to the last 2 games, unless the weather is OK. The last November night game I was at was against WMU in JLs senior year when it was bitterly cold, windy and snowing. My son (who was born with muscle defects and has serious problems with his legs with the cold) and I both said this is the last November night game for us. After that game I gave up my season tickets. While I can arrange my schedule so I could go to all home games, I simply can’t go to these cold night games; and could not go even if the games were on Saturdays. This is not a choice between attending and watching on TV.

Dude, that was one seriously cold game. I wore ski pants and was chilled to the bone.

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That game was ridiculous. I’ve been to games shirtless in 30 degree weather but I could not take that WMU game with layers of clothes on.

That was the last weeknight game I went to.