I ran across the current list of football coaches salaries and decided to have a little fun. Since 2006 (for some reason they do not include 2008), NIU has paid out $4,431,717 in total head coach salary. During that same time period, U of I paid out $18,039,189 to their head coaches. During that span, NIU has won 91 games and U of I has won 50. So NIU has paid $48,700.09 per win and U of I has paid $360,783.78 per win.

On a side note, U of I paid Lovie Smith $1,800,000 last year when he went 3-9. They are now paying him $3,000,000 and so far they are 2-5.

(10-25-2017 04:22 PM)StevenNIU Wrote:  I ran across the current list of football coaches salaries and decided to have a little fun. Since 2006 (for some reason they do not include 2008), NIU has paid out $4,431,717 in total head coach salary. During that same time period, U of I paid out $18,039,189 to their head coaches. During that span, NIU has won 91 games and U of I has won 50. So NIU has paid $48,700.09 per win and U of I has paid $360,783.78 per win.

On a side note, U of I paid Lovie Smith $1,800,000 last year when he went 3-9. They are now paying him $3,000,000 and so far they are 2-5.

These are the types of reasons I'm most proud to be an NIU football fan. G5 budget with power conference results.

NIU has made fantastic hires when it comes to the Head football coach. We have enjoyed an incredible amount of sustained success.

Also, U of I Sucks

(10-25-2017 04:25 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  NIU has made fantastic hires when it comes to the Head football coach. We have enjoyed an incredible amount of sustained success.

Also, U of I Sucks

Most of that credit to me goes to Novak, he created the foundation for all of this

(10-25-2017 04:52 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 04:25 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  NIU has made fantastic hires when it comes to the Head football coach. We have enjoyed an incredible amount of sustained success.

Also, U of I Sucks

Most of that credit to me goes to Novak, he created the foundation for all of this

Ummm.................okay

Must be nice to still be getting credit a decade later lol.

(10-25-2017 04:53 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 04:52 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 04:25 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  NIU has made fantastic hires when it comes to the Head football coach. We have enjoyed an incredible amount of sustained success.

Also, U of I Sucks

Most of that credit to me goes to Novak, he created the foundation for all of this

Ummm.................okay

Must be nice to still be getting credit a decade later lol.

Yeah...I heard it's also Phil Jackson's fault that the bulls are awful now.

(10-25-2017 04:58 PM)armour248 Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 04:53 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 04:52 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 04:25 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  NIU has made fantastic hires when it comes to the Head football coach. We have enjoyed an incredible amount of sustained success.

Also, U of I Sucks

Most of that credit to me goes to Novak, he created the foundation for all of this

Ummm.................okay

Must be nice to still be getting credit a decade later lol.

Yeah...I heard it's also Phil Jackson's fault that the bulls are awful now.

No way the Patriots win those Super Bowls without Drew Bledsoe laying the foundation

(10-25-2017 04:53 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 04:52 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 04:25 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  NIU has made fantastic hires when it comes to the Head football coach. We have enjoyed an incredible amount of sustained success.

Also, U of I Sucks

Most of that credit to me goes to Novak, he created the foundation for all of this

Ummm.................okay

Must be nice to still be getting credit a decade later lol.

Novak dug all the dirt in the garden, others planted the flowers. That's not a knock against any coach now, but one cannot underestimate what Novak did with what was the laughing stock program in all of college football. He did the hard work, the dirty work.

(10-25-2017 04:22 PM)StevenNIU Wrote:  I ran across the current list of football coaches salaries and decided to have a little fun. Since 2006 (for some reason they do not include 2008), NIU has paid out $4,431,717 in total head coach salary. During that same time period, U of I paid out $18,039,189 to their head coaches. During that span, NIU has won 91 games and U of I has won 50. So NIU has paid $48,700.09 per win and U of I has paid $360,783.78 per win.

On a side note, U of I paid Lovie Smith $1,800,000 last year when he went 3-9. They are now paying him $3,000,000 and so far they are 2-5.

Someone on twitter said that Lovie's current buyout is $16mil.

Novak did basically handpick Kill as his replacement so he did have a little part in the continued success of the program.

It’s a domino effect. Kill brought in the spread offense and was responsible for recruiting some of the best players in Huskie history (Lynch, Spann, Lewis, Ward, etc) and replenished NIU with talent and got us back to the MAC championship.

That led to us attracting Doeren to come to DeKalb from Wisconsin who was arguably the best in game coach NIU has ever had. He brought MAC Championships and a BCS Bowl

Doeren brought Carey into his staff at NIU who hate him or love him, has kept NIU at the top of the MAC outside of last year and more boneyard wins than any NIU coach in history.

So basically it’s a big domino effect, but Novak did do a large part in bring NIU back from the dead and making sure his successor brought them to the next level.


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(10-25-2017 05:00 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 04:58 PM)armour248 Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 04:53 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 04:52 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 04:25 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  NIU has made fantastic hires when it comes to the Head football coach. We have enjoyed an incredible amount of sustained success.

Also, U of I Sucks

Most of that credit to me goes to Novak, he created the foundation for all of this

Ummm.................okay

Must be nice to still be getting credit a decade later lol.

Yeah...I heard it's also Phil Jackson's fault that the bulls are awful now.

No way the Patriots win those Super Bowls without Drew Bledsoe laying the foundation

I think you need to give more credit to their coach: Bill Parcells

(10-25-2017 05:01 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 04:53 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 04:52 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 04:25 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  NIU has made fantastic hires when it comes to the Head football coach. We have enjoyed an incredible amount of sustained success.

Also, U of I Sucks

Most of that credit to me goes to Novak, he created the foundation for all of this

I agree with MD. The key word is "foundation". He broke thru it all and showed the heights the program could get to

Ummm.................okay

Must be nice to still be getting credit a decade later lol.

Novak dug all the dirt in the garden, others planted the flowers. That's not a knock against any coach now, but one cannot underestimate what Novak did with what was the laughing stock program in all of college football. He did the hard work, the dirty work.

I believe Novak started the turn around for NIU football. It took him several years to get his type of players at NIU, his first few years here demonstrated his old school ways and took 4 years to take hold. But, once they did, this team has taken off. Part of why NIU is attractive to up and coming coaches, is that it can be a stepping stone to something bigger. If a coach can't maintain or improve this team, he will not move on.

Carey was not really selected in the same manor that Kill and DD were, he was placed in the position as an interim coach and managed to keep it. Considering that this was the way he was promoted, it is not surprising that he has struggled at times. His exposure to being a head coach were limited. But, he has slowly improved and still may turn out to be a good coach. He did inherit a good team and aside from being out recruited by PJ Fleck, he has continued to win at NIU. Last year was a QB disaster. That may be the only position he has not figured out yet. But, Childers and the other young QB's may prove that wrong. It just takes time.

It is quite amazing that NIU has almost as many B10 wins as U of I does, too bad we only got to play one this year. LOL

2016 reminded me of 2007, injuries can kill period!

(10-25-2017 05:31 PM)NIU32 Wrote:  Novak did basically handpick Kill as his replacement so he did have a little part in the continued success of the program.

It’s a domino effect. Kill brought in the spread offense and was responsible for recruiting some of the best players in Huskie history (Lynch, Spann, Lewis, Ward, etc) and replenished NIU with talent and got us back to the MAC championship.

That led to us attracting Doeren to come to DeKalb from Wisconsin who was arguably the best in game coach NIU has ever had. He brought MAC Championships and a BCS Bowl

Doeren brought Carey into his staff at NIU who hate him or love him, has kept NIU at the top of the MAC outside of last year and more boneyard wins than any NIU coach in history.

So basically it’s a big domino effect, but Novak did do a large part in bring NIU back from the dead and making sure his successor brought them to the next level.


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So wait...you are telling us that we can be thankful towards all of these men for their individual positive impact on NIU and not have to single out one person while seemingly pissing on the others???

(10-26-2017 09:50 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 05:31 PM)NIU32 Wrote:  Novak did basically handpick Kill as his replacement so he did have a little part in the continued success of the program.

It’s a domino effect. Kill brought in the spread offense and was responsible for recruiting some of the best players in Huskie history (Lynch, Spann, Lewis, Ward, etc) and replenished NIU with talent and got us back to the MAC championship.

That led to us attracting Doeren to come to DeKalb from Wisconsin who was arguably the best in game coach NIU has ever had. He brought MAC Championships and a BCS Bowl

Doeren brought Carey into his staff at NIU who hate him or love him, has kept NIU at the top of the MAC outside of last year and more boneyard wins than any NIU coach in history.

So basically it’s a big domino effect, but Novak did do a large part in bring NIU back from the dead and making sure his successor brought them to the next level.


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So wait...you are telling us that we can be thankful towards all of these men for their individual positive impact on NIU and not have to single out one person while seemingly pissing on the others???

What?! I don't understand the argument here. He's just stating history of the program, and giving thanks to Novak. What's so confusing?

(10-26-2017 09:50 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 05:31 PM)NIU32 Wrote:  Novak did basically handpick Kill as his replacement so he did have a little part in the continued success of the program.

It’s a domino effect. Kill brought in the spread offense and was responsible for recruiting some of the best players in Huskie history (Lynch, Spann, Lewis, Ward, etc) and replenished NIU with talent and got us back to the MAC championship.

That led to us attracting Doeren to come to DeKalb from Wisconsin who was arguably the best in game coach NIU has ever had. He brought MAC Championships and a BCS Bowl

Doeren brought Carey into his staff at NIU who hate him or love him, has kept NIU at the top of the MAC outside of last year and more boneyard wins than any NIU coach in history.

So basically it’s a big domino effect, but Novak did do a large part in bring NIU back from the dead and making sure his successor brought them to the next level.


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So wait...you are telling us that we can be thankful towards all of these men for their individual positive impact on NIU and not have to single out one person while seemingly pissing on the others???

Well put, HJ!

(10-26-2017 09:50 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 05:31 PM)NIU32 Wrote:  Novak did basically handpick Kill as his replacement so he did have a little part in the continued success of the program.

It’s a domino effect. Kill brought in the spread offense and was responsible for recruiting some of the best players in Huskie history (Lynch, Spann, Lewis, Ward, etc) and replenished NIU with talent and got us back to the MAC championship.

That led to us attracting Doeren to come to DeKalb from Wisconsin who was arguably the best in game coach NIU has ever had. He brought MAC Championships and a BCS Bowl

Doeren brought Carey into his staff at NIU who hate him or love him, has kept NIU at the top of the MAC outside of last year and more boneyard wins than any NIU coach in history.

So basically it’s a big domino effect, but Novak did do a large part in bring NIU back from the dead and making sure his successor brought them to the next level.


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So wait...you are telling us that we can be thankful towards all of these men for their individual positive impact on NIU and not have to single out one person while seemingly pissing on the others???

Not pissing on the others, I think Novak's accomplishment is one that many people, especially fans who have just started following the team in the past 5 years do not fully appreciate. Like it or not, Novak is the reason the other coaches had that shot at success

(10-26-2017 12:36 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Not pissing on the others, I think Novak's accomplishment is one that many people, especially fans who have just started following the team in the past 5 years do not fully appreciate. Like it or not, Novak is the reason the other coaches had that shot at success

Be careful MD, you're making a logical argument instead of your usual extreme positions and trying to educate some folks whose idea of reality is based on what they know from the day before.

Novak to Kill was huge.
Novak or someone at least recognized how the spread offense was starting to take over smaller schools and the MAC.
I expected NIU and Joe to look for a guy to run his type of offense/defense.