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Other woes - Little 2nd half offense production
When Coach was on the opening drive - Pro UAB tony asked why the lack of scoring in the second half. We have scored only 17 points in the 2nd half in the last three games. Coach Clark said something like good question - I will have to analyze .

So what do think ?

Just a fluke coincidence - will not happen again

Brilliant game plans that work in first half but opponents figure it out in second(Tony's guess)

Maybe the lack of proven depth in few spots and those guys wear out? (?Al's? comment)

Coach gets kids up for first half but emotion cannot carry a full game
10-25-2017 11:21 AM
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RE: Other woes - Little 2nd half offense production
(10-25-2017 11:21 AM)uabbean Wrote:  When Coach was on the opening drive - Pro UAB tony asked why the lack of scoring in the second half. We have scored only 17 points in the 2nd half in the last three games. Coach Clark said something like good question - I will have to analyze .

So what do think ?

Just a fluke coincidence - will not happen again

Brilliant game plans that work in first half but opponents figure it out in second(Tony's guess)

Maybe the lack of proven depth in few spots and those guys wear out? (?Al's? comment)

Coach gets kids up for first half but emotion cannot carry a full game

I think it might be a little bit of all of the above. However, I think we have enough depth at RB that fatigue shouldn't be an issue, IF we actually played the 2nd and 3rd guys more. The OL doesn't seem to wear down, as we seem to move the ball on occasion, even late. They also get extra rest because it feels like they are only on the field for 3 plays on 60% of our drives.
Personally, it feels like we get comfortable and actually get really conservative, maybe even thinking the opponent will adjust to our first half plan, and change our plan, almost to a fault. Likely not the case, but just my observation.
In summary... the 2nd half play calling, or at least the timing or sequence of the those plays, SUCKS.
10-25-2017 11:35 AM
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RE: Other woes - Little 2nd half offense production
2 part reply, the defense is not putting the young guys on the field enough or their not good enough to carry the weight and the ones have to carry the load until their exhausted, have to mix in better to keep the ones fresh at the end of the game. But on the flip side probably trying to build autonomy. Their ( or we - UAB is going to have to trust in the young guys and mix and sub better) Or it is going to be the same thing. ( or get some better Gatorade).
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Pathetic offensive play calling but we'll ignore that.
10-25-2017 12:27 PM
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RE: Other woes - Little 2nd half offense production
In the last 3 games, our offensive production has been 3 points, 7 points and 3 points. Either 1.We are getting out-coached/out-schemed at halftime, and unable to adjust in real time, or 2. Depth issues are really bad, and we are just tiring out. 3. A combination of the above. Against Charlotte, we had 10 offensive possession with no points. You aren't going to win too many games like that, unless you have Alabama or Georgia's defense.
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(10-25-2017 12:17 PM)BirminghamJoseph2770 Wrote:  2 part reply, the defense is not putting the young guys on the field enough or their not good enough to carry the weight and the ones have to carry the load until their exhausted, have to mix in better to keep the ones fresh at the end of the game. But on the flip side probably trying to build autonomy. Their ( or we - UAB is going to have to trust in the young guys and mix and sub better) Or it is going to be the same thing. ( or get some better Gatorade).

Not sure which games you've watched, but defensive depth hasn't been an issue IMO. We've held our opponents in the 2nd half much better than in the 1st, except for the Charlotte game, but turnovers put them in terrible situations.
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RE: Other woes - Little 2nd half offense production
(10-25-2017 12:42 PM)Pavy78 Wrote:  
(10-25-2017 12:17 PM)BirminghamJoseph2770 Wrote:  2 part reply, the defense is not putting the young guys on the field enough or their not good enough to carry the weight and the ones have to carry the load until their exhausted, have to mix in better to keep the ones fresh at the end of the game. But on the flip side probably trying to build autonomy. Their ( or we - UAB is going to have to trust in the young guys and mix and sub better) Or it is going to be the same thing. ( or get some better Gatorade).

Not sure which games you've watched, but defensive depth hasn't been an issue IMO. We've held our opponents in the 2nd half much better than in the 1st, except for the Charlotte game, but turnovers put them in terrible situations.

Thank you, I have watched or listened to every game this year. And in the last three games not counting points which is the key factor in winning a game, we are putting the offense back on the field with poor position and then the defense has to hold of the field position. The young guys have to step up and give the ones some breathing room. Special teams have to be special, but I guess that's the key to the game.
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RE: Other woes - Little 2nd half offense production
We seem to play the 2nd half of games very conservatively on offense. We're either relying on our defense to keep the lead or keep us in the game. As far as the young guys, most of the frosh are being redshirted as Coach Clark said on one of the radio shows. We have enough depth without them, though. We seem to play the 2nd half not to lose the game as we don't seem to take any chances. The only times I remember us playing aggressively in the 2nd half was against UNT and Ball State when we were behind and had to. You can believe this emboldens our upcoming opponents as they are never out of the game...
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RE: Other woes - Little 2nd half offense production
We need to blow someone out, not take the foot off the gas, coach.
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I just want to win.
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its depth and play calling
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RE: Other woes - Little 2nd half offense production
Not using the depth right, especially at RB. It a same Walker has two catches for 10 yards, and Carter hasn't caught a pass. Also the last season of wasted Pickren talent.

On defensive Garcia-Williams as a rush end. Some of the bigs on the interior line. Talan and Crawford at LB. Actually using some guys in the defensive backfield as true DB's playing both CB and Saf.
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RE: Other woes - Little 2nd half offense production
Carter is a BIG PLAY specialist in practice! Maybe we will see him soon (I hope).
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RE: Other woes - Little 2nd half offense production
(10-25-2017 08:36 PM)Bham Blazer Wrote:  Carter is a BIG PLAY specialist in practice! Maybe we will see him soon (I hope).

I have no doubt about this. Probably a few others stick out at practice to get no pt.
10-26-2017 08:53 AM
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RE: Other woes - Little 2nd half offense production
Yep, Garcia-Williams is another. What happened to Carlos Stephens? He was actually the fastest RB on the squad with Heath suspended.
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RE: Other woes - Little 2nd half offense production
At risk of sounding like a bammer, but my opinion

I do not like or OC or offensive gameplan. We look like Auburn on offense, TE is a non-factor, we rarely utilize the middle of the field, We have far too many three and outs that kills our defense. CUSA is not known for stellar defense so we shouldn't be going three and out as much as we do. Lately a lot of drives have been helped by penalties on the defense not us driving the ball. Charlotte had one of the worst rush defenses in the league and we struggled to create any holes up front.
Bottom line is we are very predictable on offense.
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(10-26-2017 11:08 AM)82blazer Wrote:  At risk of sounding like a bammer, but my opinion

I do not like or OC or offensive gameplan. We look like Auburn on offense, TE is a non-factor, we rarely utilize the middle of the field, We have far too many three and outs that kills our defense. CUSA is not known for stellar defense so we shouldn't be going three and out as much as we do. Lately a lot of drives have been helped by penalties on the defense not us driving the ball. Charlotte had one of the worst rush defenses in the league and we struggled to create any holes up front.
Bottom line is we are very predictable on offense.

This,


We were TE U just couple of years ago. Could help Erdely throw over 200 yards.
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RE: Other woes - Little 2nd half offense production
i think our inablitity to adjust is our biggest offensive issue. against MTSU, the zone read plays were working quite well in the 1st half. as the defense adjusted and swallowed it up, we stuck with it. again and again.

i felt like Charlotte was well known to have a terrible pass defense, so the plan was to open up the passing game. since it would be such an easy win, we might as well go away from our strength and work on other things...however, as it became evident that it wouldnt be a cake walk, the plan was already set, and we had no idea how to adjust back to what we've already done really, really well in previous games.
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RE: Other woes - Little 2nd half offense production
Thanks Les.
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There is a reason Franchione called the plays at Alabama. Les was OC in name only.......sort of like McGee was at Arkansas.
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