(10-25-2017 07:19 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Looks like a lot of the MSM media is running the story now, using WaPo permission. Globalists nod that is ok to toss the Clinton's under the bus? Sure hope so.

It was worth 8 years of Obama to not have 4 years of Hillary in 2008.

We've known this for 8 months. What is there to report about?

Brian Fallon (Former Clinton campaign national press secretary, and now employed by CNN as a "contributor"), said the following after the facts were FINALLY reported by WAPO...

"I have no idea what Fusion or Steele were paid but if even a shred of that dossier ends up helping Mueller, it will prove money well spent."

For starters, for a guy that far into the inner circle to claim ignorance is hilarious at best. Additionally, his slight of hand admission there that the dossier is useless and full of BS is good stuff.

All of this is here:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/24/politics/f...index.html

So..................

paying or tying to obtain evidence of Trump colluding (or being beholden to) the Russians is the same thing as actually colluding with the Russians?


That's the rights position now? and you think that is a winning strategy?????

OK

(10-25-2017 07:48 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  So..................

paying or tying to obtain evidence of Trump colluding (or being beholden to) the Russians is the same thing as actually colluding with the Russians?


That's the rights position now? and you think that is a winning strategy?????

OK

I'm not sold on that yet, but it's heading that direction rather quickly.

The real problem is the goods sold to the American people (well, the half that ate it up like sunday afternoon ice cream) was a fabricated bowl of BS created by the Clinton campaign and others (that's coming out soon for sure).

Mach, THAT's the problem. You still don't seem to get the fact that it's all phony.

Please show me any evidence that you have that it is phooey.

You made a claim.

Please provide evidence of that claim and support it.



Now for those that are critical of me and the way I sometimes deal with people out of anger. Is there anything wrong or not tactful about my request?

Continue good man....... please show me the evidence that you have to come to the conclusion that you did.

(10-25-2017 08:23 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Please show me any evidence that you have that it is phooey.

You made a claim.

Please provide evidence of that claim and support it.



Now for those that are critical of me and the way I sometimes deal with people out of anger. Is there anything wrong or not tactful about my request?

Continue good man....... please show me the evidence that you have to come to the conclusion that you did.

One year. Zero evidence the accusation is true. Dossier author in legal hot water. Folks pleading the fifth and exposing funding to get themselves out of trouble.

Need I go on?

(10-24-2017 08:22 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(10-24-2017 06:02 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

No surprise. So it was Clinton and the Democrats who coordinated with a firm associated with the Russians to smear Trump.

Quote:The Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee helped fund research that resulted in a now-famous dossier containing allegations about Donald Trump’s connections to Russia and possible coordination between his campaign and the Kremlin, people familiar with the matter said.

Marc E. Elias, a lawyer representing the Clinton campaign and the DNC, retained Fusion GPS, a Washington firm, to conduct the research.

Fusion GPS hired dossier author Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer with ties to the FBI and the U.S. intelligence community.

Elias and his law firm, Perkins Coie, retained the firm in April 2016 on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Prior to that agreement, Fusion GPS’s research into Trump was funded by a still unknown Republican client during the GOP primary.

The Clinton campaign and the DNC through the law firm continued to fund Fusion GPS’s research through the end of October 2016, days before Election Day.[…]

Elias and Fusion GPS declined to comment on the arrangement. Spokespersons for the Clinton campaign and the DNC had no immediate comment.

People involved in the matter said they would not disclose the dollar-amounts paid to Fusion GPS, but said the campaign and the DNC shared the cost.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/nat...675d55e515

Dear Mach:

As Neegan would say, "I hope you got your shittin' pants on."

(10-24-2017 06:05 PM)Claw Wrote:  I really don't understand. We have known about this and the uranium deal for over a year.

Why now?

Exactly.

This was actually reported in the original article about the Steele Dossier from Mother Jones last October 31st.

Quote:This was for an opposition research project originally financed by a Republican client critical of the celebrity mogul. (Before the former spy was retained, the project’s financing switched to a client allied with Democrats.) “It started off as a fairly general inquiry,” says the former spook, who asks not to be identified. But when he dug into Trump, he notes, he came across troubling information indicating connections between Trump and the Russian government. According to his sources, he says, “there was an established exchange of information between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin of mutual benefit.”

A Veteran Spy Has Given the FBI Information Alleging a Russian Operation to Cultivate Donald Trump

But Mother Jones is fake news, AMIRITE?

(10-24-2017 10:20 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Really what I actually really want is someone to explain to me how you post a gif.

This is the one I want.

https://goo.gl/images/V5uhaJ

So easy my 7 year old granddaughter can do it.

It's been said that liberalism is a mental disorder. I have several liberal friends, though not ultra liberal, and I never thought any of them to be mentally ill, until now. The left is in full meltdown and a few of those friends have suddenly switched sides. The ones who haven't are still circling the wagons and crying over what Trump is doing to our great country and the world. They honestly feel that he is going to destroy us all and that Hillary is our savior. #smh

(10-24-2017 10:20 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Really what I actually really want is someone to explain to me how you post a gif.

This is the one I want.

https://goo.gl/images/V5uhaJ

If you can't figure out how to post an image on this message board... perhaps the complexities and subtleties of politics are a bit beyond your mental capacity and you should just stop.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-...le/2638540

FBI still fighting disclosing their role in Russian collusion and political surveillance. I guess Sessions isn't that interested.

(10-25-2017 08:23 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Please show me any evidence that you have that it is phooey.

You made a claim.

Please provide evidence of that claim and support it.



Now for those that are critical of me and the way I sometimes deal with people out of anger. Is there anything wrong or not tactful about my request?

Continue good man....... please show me the evidence that you have to come to the conclusion that you did.

(10-25-2017 07:53 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I know things have been cross checked with foreign intelligence agencies. I am not aware of anything that has been proven incorrect. I google it and nothing came back. Why do so many of you say the wildly discredited Steele Dossier? What has been discredited?

the ******* hypocrisy....

So nothing has been discredited so far........ thanks

Bwahahahah!

No, thank you. Again and again...

(10-25-2017 09:44 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  So nothing has been discredited so far........ thanks

The real question is what has been proven. If this is real, then there needs to be proof. Innocent until proven guilty.

And now journalists and the NYT"s are starting to pile on.

Sources told The Post that neither the Clinton campaign nor the DNC specifically directed Steele’s work, labeling the intelligence officer simply as a Fusion GPS subcontractor.

But after the Post story broke, reporters with The New York Times blasted Elias and others on Twitter, accusing them of denying the connection for months.

“When I tried to report this story, Clinton campaign lawyer @marceelias pushed back vigorously, saying ‘You (or your sources) are wrong,’” New York Times reporter Kenneth Vogel tweeted.

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Kenneth P. Vogel @kenvogel
When I tried to report this story, Clinton campaign lawyer @marceelias pushed back vigorously, saying "You (or your sources) are wrong." https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/922954944071852032 …
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“Folks involved in funding this lied about it, and with sanctimony, for a year,” Times reporter Maggie Haberman tweeted.

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Folks involved in funding this lied about it, and with sanctimony, for a year https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/nat...story.html …
6:07 PM - Oct 24, 2017


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/...ssier.html

(10-25-2017 10:11 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  And now journalists and the NYT"s are starting to pile on.

Sources told The Post that neither the Clinton campaign nor the DNC specifically directed Steele’s work, labeling the intelligence officer simply as a Fusion GPS subcontractor.

But after the Post story broke, reporters with The New York Times blasted Elias and others on Twitter, accusing them of denying the connection for months.

“When I tried to report this story, Clinton campaign lawyer @marceelias pushed back vigorously, saying ‘You (or your sources) are wrong,’” New York Times reporter Kenneth Vogel tweeted.

Follow
Kenneth P. Vogel @kenvogel
When I tried to report this story, Clinton campaign lawyer @marceelias pushed back vigorously, saying "You (or your sources) are wrong." https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/922954944071852032 …
5:38 PM - Oct 24, 2017
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“Folks involved in funding this lied about it, and with sanctimony, for a year,” Times reporter Maggie Haberman tweeted.

Follow
Maggie Haberman @maggieNYT
Folks involved in funding this lied about it, and with sanctimony, for a year https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/nat...story.html …
6:07 PM - Oct 24, 2017


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/...ssier.html

Kaaaabooooooooooooom. The hits just keep on coming.

SMDH

You guys are good, not great, but good.

It’s NOT the Steele dossier or it’s funding per se, it’s the very simple fact that what has been uncovered is this troubling-

The FBI, apparently including Mueller, Rosenstein, perhaps Comey and a lot of people ABOVE them in pay grade (contemptible witHolder, looking at you!), knew about this ROOOSKIES!!!! Interference in our governmental operations going back as far as ‘09. That they were making blatant attempts to snuggle up to the Clintoons and simply buy influence. The zerO Admin did little or nothing about it.

In fact, not long after, and thanks to the efforts of the Podesta group, they had managed to secure rights to 20% of the US stockpile of uranium. You know, the stuff used to makes nukes(?)!

Now, what happened then? 150 million to the Clinton family front group, and bubba himself getting half million payouts for 20 minute speeches. Pay for play? Wellllll, nooooo of course not. All above board...

Lol. THEN, the unimaginable, unthinkable happens and a funny thing happens on the way to the landslide. The most wholly corrupt, most unlikable, incompetent candidate to ever run actually manages to LOSE to a guy named Trump.

Ruh roh.

How could that have happened?!? Der da der da der...

Russia!!!

Russians, (and Macedonian content farmers, bookface ad buys of 100k$’s, self-hating women and a bankrupt, useless DNC) ALL collide to make H> lose.

So in the zeal to make any and ALL excuses, they settle on something as silly and dismissively false as “Russian collusion”.

Haha. Problem is WHAT IS NOW COMING OUT (is the point), is that the only folks doing any “colluding” is pretty clearly the H> campaign, the LSDNC , the Podesta group, and obviously their willing accomplices in the xtreme stream media.

Now we have Mueller investigating Mueller, the current dnc chair running for the tall grass, and people tripping over themselves to throw the next person closest to them under the bus.

Looked at objectively, and with any shred of honesty, the bottom line is still the bottom line- if there was ANY real collusion going on, dating as far back as more than 8 years ago, it was on the left.

NO evidence to the contrary. Even after near 20 months of MUH J3ST3R, house and senate investigations, FBI and whoever else is running around working on the latest CYA.

After all, who is the Kremlin more closely aligned with politically? An unapologetic, devoted capitalist? Or a Bernie-lite socialist, willing to playball, even with our national security?

And some yalls still think Pootey-poot would have preferred Trump?!?

Hahahahaha, why? He already owned the Cank!


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