(10-25-2017 08:28 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  FWIW, the FCS NC had more viewers than both the Camelia and New Orleans bowl last year. Not the huge difference some seem to be trying to make it.

FCS had a NC game last year? Cool. Who played and who won?

(10-25-2017 08:58 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 08:28 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  FWIW, the FCS NC had more viewers than both the Camelia and New Orleans bowl last year. Not the huge difference some seem to be trying to make it.

FCS had a NC game last year? Cool. Who played and who won?

To be fair, he could say the same thing about our bowls.

But, as it pertains to this thread, Houston's best path to power five coaching is to take a G5 HC position.
Not many going to be a better opportunity than ours.

As for the Bowls that nobody outside the teams playing in them remember: That's part of the beauty of expanding the playoff to 12 teams.

Still seat top 4: Bye first round.

8 teams play in week one: 5 of those are G5 champions which allows matchups between the best G5s (also mostly lets us eliminate each other, something the P5 would like) and so still honors some of the contracts with these lower bowls. With that system in place, most all college football fans would watch and pay attention to who wins those lower bowls. They would also probably watch the G5 championship games and even be more interested in regular season games with the ones that they have seen in those CCGs and first round playoffs.

The rest of the playoff would consist of the other P5 champion plus two at large.

But props to the FCS NC.
With that being our history, I believe that that Champion in some years could make a run in such a FBS playoff. Not win it, but survive a round or two.
Unfortunately, most FBS fans don't think so, and ADs from the P5 are going to be nearly as reluctant to reach to an FCS head coach as the G5 is to reach to a HS head coach.
Doesn't mean the coach couldn't do the job, but he isn't likely to get the chance to prove it without a stop in the FBS as a P5 Coordinator or G5 HC.

(10-25-2017 08:28 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  FWIW, the FCS NC had more viewers than both the Camelia and New Orleans bowl last year. Not the huge difference some seem to be trying to make it.

The FCS game was moved and has zero competition. The Camellia Bowl was overlapped or went head to head with two other bowl games. You are talking about games during Christmas season and one after all the holidays are over. You are seeing the bottom of the FBS be the absolute ceiling for the FCS it kinda just reinforces the point.

(10-25-2017 08:58 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 08:28 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  FWIW, the FCS NC had more viewers than both the Camelia and New Orleans bowl last year. Not the huge difference some seem to be trying to make it.

FCS had a NC game last year? Cool. Who played and who won?

I believe it was James Madison. The school that out draws every Belt team in average attendance

(10-26-2017 08:09 PM)GnatsRbettrFried Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 08:58 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 08:28 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  FWIW, the FCS NC had more viewers than both the Camelia and New Orleans bowl last year. Not the huge difference some seem to be trying to make it.

FCS had a NC game last year? Cool. Who played and who won?

I believe it was James Madison. The school that out draws every Belt team in average attendance

You sure about that? JMU's avg attendance last year was 19,844. App State's was 26,153 last year. Georgia Southern's was even 20,819 while going 5-7.

(10-26-2017 08:45 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(10-26-2017 08:09 PM)GnatsRbettrFried Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 08:58 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 08:28 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  FWIW, the FCS NC had more viewers than both the Camelia and New Orleans bowl last year. Not the huge difference some seem to be trying to make it.

FCS had a NC game last year? Cool. Who played and who won?

I believe it was James Madison. The school that out draws every Belt team in average attendance

You sure about that? JMU's avg attendance last year was 19,844. App State's was 26,153 last year. Georgia Southern's was even 20,819 while going 5-7.

Throw out playoff games (notorious for low reported attendance) and attendance was over 22k. This year 25k. Don’t know if that leads anything, but just thought I’d set the record straight.

(10-26-2017 10:03 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(10-26-2017 08:45 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(10-26-2017 08:09 PM)GnatsRbettrFried Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 08:58 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 08:28 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  FWIW, the FCS NC had more viewers than both the Camelia and New Orleans bowl last year. Not the huge difference some seem to be trying to make it.

FCS had a NC game last year? Cool. Who played and who won?

I believe it was James Madison. The school that out draws every Belt team in average attendance

You sure about that? JMU's avg attendance last year was 19,844. App State's was 26,153 last year. Georgia Southern's was even 20,819 while going 5-7.

Throw out playoff games (notorious for low reported attendance) and attendance was over 22k. This year 25k. Don’t know if that leads anything, but just thought I’d set the record straight.

GS knows all about those "low attendance" numbers for playoff games. Usually the 1st round is not even half full. It isn't until the semis do fans really show up.

Also, when are you guys gonna finish that stadium, it's messing with my OCD. More so than our own unbalanced stadium. Would've been nice to see JMU in the SBC, but that ship might have sailed.

(10-26-2017 10:03 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(10-26-2017 08:45 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(10-26-2017 08:09 PM)GnatsRbettrFried Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 08:58 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 08:28 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  FWIW, the FCS NC had more viewers than both the Camelia and New Orleans bowl last year. Not the huge difference some seem to be trying to make it.

FCS had a NC game last year? Cool. Who played and who won?

I believe it was James Madison. The school that out draws every Belt team in average attendance

You sure about that? JMU's avg attendance last year was 19,844. App State's was 26,153 last year. Georgia Southern's was even 20,819 while going 5-7.

Throw out playoff games (notorious for low reported attendance) and attendance was over 22k. This year 25k. Don’t know if that leads anything, but just thought I’d set the record straight.

If y’all get to throw out play off games, we should get to throw out weeknight games which also kill attendance averages. So it wouldn’t change that much.

Throw away playoff games? I thought that's what made winning in the FCS special.

(10-27-2017 07:36 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  Throw away playoff games? I thought that's what made winning in the FCS special.

When you've got a fan base that has hosted so many play off games... the excitement is just not there in the first few rounds.

(10-27-2017 07:36 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  Throw away playoff games? I thought that's what made winning in the FCS special.

All revenues go to NCAA, so it is common practice to under report attendance. Students also don't get in free, so that hurts.

Our SHSU game was a Friday night game.

(10-27-2017 07:21 AM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  

(10-26-2017 10:03 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(10-26-2017 08:45 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(10-26-2017 08:09 PM)GnatsRbettrFried Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 08:58 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  FCS had a NC game last year? Cool. Who played and who won?

I believe it was James Madison. The school that out draws every Belt team in average attendance

You sure about that? JMU's avg attendance last year was 19,844. App State's was 26,153 last year. Georgia Southern's was even 20,819 while going 5-7.

Throw out playoff games (notorious for low reported attendance) and attendance was over 22k. This year 25k. Don’t know if that leads anything, but just thought I’d set the record straight.

GS knows all about those "low attendance" numbers for playoff games. Usually the 1st round is not even half full. It isn't until the semis do fans really show up.

Also, when are you guys gonna finish that stadium, it's messing with my OCD. More so than our own unbalanced stadium. Would've been nice to see JMU in the SBC, but that ship might have sailed.

Stadium won't be finished until there is a demonstrated need of consecutive years of sellouts. While JMU lists max attendance as right around 25k, we have had games in the 26-27k range as well. Maybe if we go FBS, but to be honest, our stadium is already better than a lot of G5s. I hate the unbalanced look as well, as do most JMU fans, but cosmetics can't drive $$$$ spent until the $$$$ is available.

Also, we are about to break ground on this. We may be tapped out for awhile....

You guys are one of my favorite programs, hope you guys get a good one. Looking forward to our game tomorrow. Anyone coming down to Troy this weekend?

(10-27-2017 09:37 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  You guys are one of my favorite programs, hope you guys get a good one. Looking forward to our game tomorrow. Anyone coming down to Troy this weekend?

As are y'all to me. We'll bring a sizable contingent with us tomorrow. Our interim has done a good job of getting the players and fans renewed energy. There's a buzz on campus today that I haven't felt in a while. Should be a good one

(10-25-2017 08:28 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  FWIW, the FCS NC had more viewers than both the Camelia and New Orleans bowl last year. Not the huge difference some seem to be trying to make it.

Who cares? It all comes down to money. If the man can double his salary, he will. Has happened to us three times since 2001. Everybody loves their job until somebody comes around with more money and job security. Loyalty is to your family, not the person who signs your paycheck. TBH I dont think we get Houston because I think a program like ECU will get him. We cant pay what they pay.

(10-27-2017 09:37 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  You guys are one of my favorite programs, hope you guys get a good one. Looking forward to our game tomorrow. Anyone coming down to Troy this weekend?

Yep.