(10-21-2017 03:55 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  I feel like the "dibs" NIU called is being vastly overlooked...

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At least you're consistent.

(10-21-2017 03:33 PM)Tiger5 Wrote:  As a sports program Southern Miss has been traditionally a much better program versus Tulane. And better than Tulsa. I assume tulane got the nod because of tv market not due to quality sports program.

Is this trolling? You're trolling right? How many hall of famers does usm have? How many ncaa records have they held? Conference championships? Number of traditional new years bowl games? Finished ranked in the top ten? Top 25? Consensus all americans? Wins? Whats their record vs tulsa? Have they even ever had a heismen canadite? Gtfoh. Even in just football we got them, by a ways. If we go to any other sports it gets ugly. Hell we got two college world series appearence and close to as many baseball conference championships as them and more weeks ranked at #1 and we quit playing it in 1980.

I know I don't really follow football and mostly only care about basketball, but does USM or NIU really do much? NIU had a nice run, but haven't they kind of disappeared a bit? It sounds like USM has been pretty bad recently. Neither offer much of anything in basketball. Maybe I'm off base in their football offerings. And I'm not sure NIU really delivers the Chicago market. That's like the MVC adding Loyola.

If you're looking at future replacements or whatever in the Midwest/Southeast, aren't there better options that can do some of both (FB/BB)? Most candidates in these areas probably don't really have much market value, unless simply being in a market is enough value. But athletic product could probably be better than either of these two options. I'm guessing Middle Tennessee is looked down upon but they have pretty decent basketball and I thought they were alright at football but that may have been longer ago then I realize. Same with Western Kentucky, but it's probably much the same. And I'm not sure what kind of following either have so maybe they're not even worth discussing. I kinda get the USM talk since they shared a conference with many of you at one time.

I know the dream scenario is picking off a few MWC schools, but I still have my doubts of that ever happening unless a network was really willing to open up their wallet for that to happen and make it worthwhile for those western schools.

And I know this is just a lot of speculation based off what might possibly happen in seven years or so and a lot can change between now and then. Maybe there are no teams that bring something in both major sports. That's very possible. In which case, most Shocker fans won't be thrilled with any potential addition at that time. But it is what it is.

(10-21-2017 05:59 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(10-21-2017 03:33 PM)Tiger5 Wrote:  As a sports program Southern Miss has been traditionally a much better program versus Tulane. And better than Tulsa. I assume tulane got the nod because of tv market not due to quality sports program.

Is this trolling? You're trolling right? How many hall of famers does usm have? How many ncaa records have they held? Conference championships? Number of traditional new years bowl games? Finished ranked in the top ten? Top 25? Consensus all americans? Wins? Whats their record vs tulsa? Have they even ever had a heismen canadite? Gtfoh. Even in just football we got them, by a ways. If we go to any other sports it gets ugly. Hell we got two college world series appearence and close to as many baseball conference championships as them and more weeks ranked at #1 and we quit playing it in 1980.

I am not a Tulsa sports historian but from 1985 to 2000, I'd argue Southern Miss was one of the best and toughest football teams not in the P5.

(10-21-2017 09:16 PM)Tiger5 Wrote:  

(10-21-2017 05:59 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(10-21-2017 03:33 PM)Tiger5 Wrote:  As a sports program Southern Miss has been traditionally a much better program versus Tulane. And better than Tulsa. I assume tulane got the nod because of tv market not due to quality sports program.

Is this trolling? You're trolling right? How many hall of famers does usm have? How many ncaa records have they held? Conference championships? Number of traditional new years bowl games? Finished ranked in the top ten? Top 25? Consensus all americans? Wins? Whats their record vs tulsa? Have they even ever had a heismen canadite? Gtfoh. Even in just football we got them, by a ways. If we go to any other sports it gets ugly. Hell we got two college world series appearence and close to as many baseball conference championships as them and more weeks ranked at #1 and we quit playing it in 1980.

I am not a Tulsa sports historian but from 1985 to 2000, I'd argue Southern Miss was one of the best and toughest football teams not in the P5.

Unhunh, so they were a better football program than us for 15 out of what a 120 years? And not even all 15 of those years. Sounds legit lol. Never mind durring that same period we had multiple sweet sixteens and an elite 8 run and went to the ncaa tournament like 12 out of those years. Sports program or football that just doesnt add up.

(10-21-2017 05:59 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(10-21-2017 03:33 PM)Tiger5 Wrote:  As a sports program Southern Miss has been traditionally a much better program versus Tulane. And better than Tulsa. I assume tulane got the nod because of tv market not due to quality sports program.

Is this trolling? You're trolling right? How many hall of famers does usm have? How many ncaa records have they held? Conference championships? Number of traditional new years bowl games? Finished ranked in the top ten? Top 25? Consensus all americans? Wins? Whats their record vs tulsa? Have they even ever had a heismen canadite? Gtfoh. Even in just football we got them, by a ways. If we go to any other sports it gets ugly. Hell we got two college world series appearence and close to as many baseball conference championships as them and more weeks ranked at #1 and we quit playing it in 1980.

Dude... with the way you spell, and handle punctuation and sentence structure, there's not a snowball's chance in hell you're a college graduate, TU or otherwise. Not a chance. You can keep up the academic bourgeoisie vibe if it makes you feel better, but it's a facade.

(10-21-2017 01:38 PM)SHOCK_value Wrote:  If it ever makes sense for the AAC to add FIU/FAU because: football programs no one even knows exist, then I hope to hell the MVC will let WSU back in. Holy hell.

If you invite FIU/FAU, you're giving up on life as an athletic conference. On the basketball side is even more pathetic when maybe 150 people show up.

(10-21-2017 10:21 PM)SHOCK_value Wrote:  

(10-21-2017 05:59 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(10-21-2017 03:33 PM)Tiger5 Wrote:  As a sports program Southern Miss has been traditionally a much better program versus Tulane. And better than Tulsa. I assume tulane got the nod because of tv market not due to quality sports program.

Is this trolling? You're trolling right? How many hall of famers does usm have? How many ncaa records have they held? Conference championships? Number of traditional new years bowl games? Finished ranked in the top ten? Top 25? Consensus all americans? Wins? Whats their record vs tulsa? Have they even ever had a heismen canadite? Gtfoh. Even in just football we got them, by a ways. If we go to any other sports it gets ugly. Hell we got two college world series appearence and close to as many baseball conference championships as them and more weeks ranked at #1 and we quit playing it in 1980.

Dude... with the way you spell, and handle punctuation and sentence structure, there's not a snowball's chance in hell you're a college graduate, TU or otherwise. Not a chance. You can keep up the academic bourgeoisie vibe if it makes you feel better, but it's a facade.

Chill out man, a sports internet forum is a place for people to come on and relax without the standards and weights of daily life weighing upon them. If he wants to have a more lax approach on this online interface, then more power to him. Assuming his level of education based on his posting patterns just makes you look petty.

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(10-21-2017 10:29 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(10-21-2017 10:21 PM)SHOCK_value Wrote:  

(10-21-2017 05:59 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(10-21-2017 03:33 PM)Tiger5 Wrote:  As a sports program Southern Miss has been traditionally a much better program versus Tulane. And better than Tulsa. I assume tulane got the nod because of tv market not due to quality sports program.

Is this trolling? You're trolling right? How many hall of famers does usm have? How many ncaa records have they held? Conference championships? Number of traditional new years bowl games? Finished ranked in the top ten? Top 25? Consensus all americans? Wins? Whats their record vs tulsa? Have they even ever had a heismen canadite? Gtfoh. Even in just football we got them, by a ways. If we go to any other sports it gets ugly. Hell we got two college world series appearence and close to as many baseball conference championships as them and more weeks ranked at #1 and we quit playing it in 1980.

Dude... with the way you spell, and handle punctuation and sentence structure, there's not a snowball's chance in hell you're a college graduate, TU or otherwise. Not a chance. You can keep up the academic bourgeoisie vibe if it makes you feel better, but it's a facade.

Chill out man, a sports internet forum is a place for people to come on and relax without the standards and weights of daily life weighing upon them. If he wants to have a more lax approach on this online interface, then more power to him. Assuming his level of education based on his posting patterns just makes you look petty.

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He spends his time here going full throttle braggadocious about his TU pedigree, and he just spelled candidate, "canadite". That's not a simple misspelling or keystroke error, that's an 18 on your ACT phonetic sound-it-out.

(10-21-2017 10:29 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(10-21-2017 10:21 PM)SHOCK_value Wrote:  

(10-21-2017 05:59 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(10-21-2017 03:33 PM)Tiger5 Wrote:  As a sports program Southern Miss has been traditionally a much better program versus Tulane. And better than Tulsa. I assume tulane got the nod because of tv market not due to quality sports program.

Is this trolling? You're trolling right? How many hall of famers does usm have? How many ncaa records have they held? Conference championships? Number of traditional new years bowl games? Finished ranked in the top ten? Top 25? Consensus all americans? Wins? Whats their record vs tulsa? Have they even ever had a heismen canadite? Gtfoh. Even in just football we got them, by a ways. If we go to any other sports it gets ugly. Hell we got two college world series appearence and close to as many baseball conference championships as them and more weeks ranked at #1 and we quit playing it in 1980.

Dude... with the way you spell, and handle punctuation and sentence structure, there's not a snowball's chance in hell you're a college graduate, TU or otherwise. Not a chance. You can keep up the academic bourgeoisie vibe if it makes you feel better, but it's a facade.

Chill out man, a sports internet forum is a place for people to come on and relax without the standards and weights of daily life weighing upon them. If he wants to have a more lax approach on this online interface, then more power to him. Assuming his level of education based on his posting patterns just makes you look petty.

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Hitachi State grads are a special breed

(10-21-2017 10:38 PM)SHOCK_value Wrote:  

(10-21-2017 10:29 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(10-21-2017 10:21 PM)SHOCK_value Wrote:  

(10-21-2017 05:59 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(10-21-2017 03:33 PM)Tiger5 Wrote:  As a sports program Southern Miss has been traditionally a much better program versus Tulane. And better than Tulsa. I assume tulane got the nod because of tv market not due to quality sports program.

Is this trolling? You're trolling right? How many hall of famers does usm have? How many ncaa records have they held? Conference championships? Number of traditional new years bowl games? Finished ranked in the top ten? Top 25? Consensus all americans? Wins? Whats their record vs tulsa? Have they even ever had a heismen canadite? Gtfoh. Even in just football we got them, by a ways. If we go to any other sports it gets ugly. Hell we got two college world series appearence and close to as many baseball conference championships as them and more weeks ranked at #1 and we quit playing it in 1980.

Dude... with the way you spell, and handle punctuation and sentence structure, there's not a snowball's chance in hell you're a college graduate, TU or otherwise. Not a chance. You can keep up the academic bourgeoisie vibe if it makes you feel better, but it's a facade.

Chill out man, a sports internet forum is a place for people to come on and relax without the standards and weights of daily life weighing upon them. If he wants to have a more lax approach on this online interface, then more power to him. Assuming his level of education based on his posting patterns just makes you look petty.

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He spends his time here going full throttle braggadocious about his TU pedigree, and he just spelled candidate, "canadite". That's not a simple misspelling or keystroke error, that's an 18 on your ACT phonetic sound-it-out.

Yup, nailed it. Wait not even close, sorry I didn't proof read it for you. I was unaware that I was writing an English term paper. I'm also not using correct punctuation because I am on my phone and it is a pain in my ass.

Act 29
University of Tulsa 2001 to 2006
University of Adelaide 2003 ( a Brownstone University)
St. Mark's College (perhaps the most prestigious College in Australia)

Won overall colours at St. Marks (its a mvp award for the Douglas Irving Cup, most often referred to as the High Table Cup). First international student to do it. Yeti Hunter, hold a Bachelors in Applied Drinking (B.A.D.) Ran through the state owned casino with cap guns blazing on Wang Night. I am a man of many talents.

(10-21-2017 03:56 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(10-21-2017 01:06 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  Also don't forget, NIU called dibs

You don't disrespect dibs...

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I'd trade Tulane for y'all.

C'mon man, we know how to party!!!!!

(10-21-2017 03:33 PM)Tiger5 Wrote:  As a sports program Southern Miss has been traditionally a much better program versus Tulane. And better than Tulsa. I assume tulane got the nod because of tv market not due to quality sports program.

I would bet Southern Miss has more alumni in New Orleans than Tulane. You can add a university that sits in a large tv market but that does not mean you have added that tv market. LSU owns every tv set in LA. Sure the TV companies understand this.

Sure our basketball arena is a dump. Sure we have a small athletic budget. Sure we are digging out of a short football slump. But... when sports analysts talk about the top G5 programs with football tradition, Southern Miss is brought up every time.

(10-21-2017 03:48 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  The other thing my that is being overlooked here is athletic budget... the AAC is pretty uniform across the board insofar as like budgets iirc....44 mm vs 29 mm is a huge difference

What were those programs budgets before joining AAC. I'm sure Southern Miss' budget would increase a good amount if in AAC. We'd likely sell a few more tickets for the Houston game vs the Charlotte game. Maybe have to schedule Uconn as first game every season so fans would show up

(10-21-2017 05:59 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(10-21-2017 03:33 PM)Tiger5 Wrote:  As a sports program Southern Miss has been traditionally a much better program versus Tulane. And better than Tulsa. I assume tulane got the nod because of tv market not due to quality sports program.

Is this trolling? You're trolling right? How many hall of famers does usm have? How many ncaa records have they held? Conference championships? Number of traditional new years bowl games? Finished ranked in the top ten? Top 25? Consensus all americans? Wins? Whats their record vs tulsa? Have they even ever had a heismen canadite? Gtfoh. Even in just football we got them, by a ways. If we go to any other sports it gets ugly. Hell we got two college world series appearence and close to as many baseball conference championships as them and more weeks ranked at #1 and we quit playing it in 1980.

This got me curious, so pulls some info from winsipedia. Not bad Tulsa.

Southern Miss
2 hall of famers
8 conference championships
22 bowl games (11-11)
56 weeks in AP poll
0 consensus all-americans
40th all-time record

Tulsa
3 hall of famers
35 conference championships
21 bowl games (9-12)
42 weeks in AP poll
2 consensus all-americans
59th all-time record

Southern Miss is always an option. USM is a friend to East Carolina. I don't know the future but I wish USM fans the best.

"St. Mark's College (perhaps the most prestigious College in Australia)"

Is that really saying much?

Southern Miss to ACC?

NO!

(10-24-2017 02:40 PM)TyBull Wrote:  Southern Miss to ACC?

NO!

I think you meant AAC.

Curious, why not? BYU is above the AAC. Army was already in a conference with the majority of AAC and bailed (and they already play Navy every year). Boise, they can't beat UVA and they are quickly becoming a has-been. Why add that travel nightmare.

I think more realistic options are like Southern Miss, UTSA, ODU, Marshall, Ark St, Toledo, Ohio, etc. Not saying Southern Miss is the best option, but doesn't make sense to dismiss so quickly.

Southern Miss and their stinky poo poo athletic department have no place in the American Athletic Conference of Champions.

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