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RE: Montana is having a GoFundMe campaign to send it's band to the Montana State game
Off your Meds again?
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Montana is having a GoFundMe campaign to send it's band to the Montana State game
(10-19-2017 07:38 PM)NoDak Wrote: (10-19-2017 07:13 PM)dbackjon Wrote: (10-19-2017 06:57 PM)NoDak Wrote: (10-19-2017 05:39 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote: I was wondering how you would spin the UND situation, good to know some things never change.
Oh, couldn't find any GoFundMe requests from FBS schools sending their bands and cheerleaders. Probably because it doesn't happen.
Montana? They are short money right now. The enrollment decline is killing them.
(10-18-2017 07:44 PM)NoDak Wrote: For someone who has been insisting that the Montanas won't go FBS and leave the Big Sky, somehow you are awfully paranoid they will.
FYI, FBS schools often have GoFundMe fundraisers for bands and cheerleaders for trips. Bands simply are expenses, not revenue producers except for certain HBCU bands.
UND's AD just retired. Expect the new one will come from Mich St (assist AD) and former UND QB and TV Sports announcer that is the hand picked choice of our prospective billionaire stadium donor.
So for a know it all like you, who is going to be the replacement for IPFW in the Summit?
Oh yeah, you are on record on that IPFW is absolutely thrilled with the Summit League and the tournament site. If IPFW leaves, your IQ and insight suddenly slip below zero. As usual, your reading comprehension is just horrible, but what can one expect from an SDSU grad?
Kind of like you with your WAC FBS?
Idaho, the Montanas, and UND want FBS as a group but want similar schools. Thought the WAC was the only way, but Liberty showed a different path when this whole board said that wasn't possible. A Summit of fb playing schools wanting FBS will not be denied in spite of the collective "wisdom" of this board.
I don't side with DBack Jon often, but he is right on this. Give this North conference a rest, it is not happening.
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RE: Montana is having a GoFundMe campaign to send it's band to the Montana State game
All these status quo posters deny the fact that the rest of the Big Sky rejected NDSU and SDSU because they were afraid the Montanas so liked them they would ditch everyone else. That is a fact that you all ignore. It was only with the Montanas feigning interest in the WAC as the Montanas threatened to leave, so the rest of the Big Sky voted UND and USD invites when the Montanas said they would stay if that happened. That is all fact from a Denver blog, but your never see it reported by the press.
A Summit league with the Montanas, Idaho and EWU is a sure thing. Come to grips with it. Only Nevada and Boise coming back will change the dynamics enough. Only Weber St offers even a reasonable fan base of the remaining Mountain and Pacific Time Zone schools. Montana and Idaho could just as well be playing NAIA or JC schools for the good it does to align with some second and third rate schools.
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Montana is having a GoFundMe campaign to send it's band to the Montana State game
If it is a sure thing, who wins it this year? Not happening.
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RE: Montana is having a GoFundMe campaign to send it's band to the Montana State game
(10-19-2017 10:17 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote: If it is a sure thing, who wins it this year? Not happening.
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You'll still have the Montanas, Idaho and EWU in the league for the 2019 fb season. That will be the end of it. Make way for Azusa State and CWU to backfill.
P.S. May be Weber St gets an invite too out of that collection of commuter schools.
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RE: Montana is having a GoFundMe campaign to send it's band to the Montana State game
(10-19-2017 10:15 PM)NoDak Wrote: All these status quo posters deny the fact that the rest of the Big Sky rejected NDSU and SDSU because they were afraid the Montanas so liked them they would ditch everyone else. That is a fact that you all ignore.
That is, um, not a fact.
Quote:It was only with the Montanas feigning interest in the WAC as the Montanas threatened to leave, so the rest of the Big Sky voted UND and USD invites when the Montanas said they would stay if that happened. That is all fact from a Denver blog, but your never see it reported by the press.
Does it strike you as odd that some "Denver blog" has the real secret truth, while all the mainstream media outlets and professional journalists are clueless?
Quote:A Summit league with the Montanas, Idaho and EWU is a sure thing.
Is it more or less sure than the FBS WAC was? Because there was a time when you were sure about the FBS WAC.
Quote: Come to grips with it. Only Nevada and Boise coming back will change the dynamics enough.
..........are Nevada and Boise joining the Summit now?
You realize that you sound like a crazy person carrying a sign that says "The End Is Nigh", and regularly issuing new predictions of the apocalypse when the old ones don't happen?
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RE: Montana is having a GoFundMe campaign to send it's band to the Montana State game
(10-19-2017 10:44 PM)johnbragg Wrote: (10-19-2017 10:15 PM)NoDak Wrote: All these status quo posters deny the fact that the rest of the Big Sky rejected NDSU and SDSU because they were afraid the Montanas so liked them they would ditch everyone else. That is a fact that you all ignore.
That is, um, not a fact.
Quote:It was only with the Montanas feigning interest in the WAC as the Montanas threatened to leave, so the rest of the Big Sky voted UND and USD invites when the Montanas said they would stay if that happened. That is all fact from a Denver blog, but your never see it reported by the press.
Does it strike you as odd that some "Denver blog" has the real secret truth, while all the mainstream media outlets and professional journalists are clueless?
Quote:A Summit league with the Montanas, Idaho and EWU is a sure thing.
Is it more or less sure than the FBS WAC was? Because there was a time when you were sure about the FBS WAC.
Quote: Come to grips with it. Only Nevada and Boise coming back will change the dynamics enough.
..........are Nevada and Boise joining the Summit now?
There are sources but you posters refuse to do any homework.
FBS is coming to the Montanas, Idaho, EWU and the Dakotas, but on a more extended time frame than I originally thought and with a different vehicle than I thought. NDSU demanded that UND schedule two games if Fargo before they would be part of this plan, as they hadn't scheduled UND in more than 12 years.
Nevada and Boise going back to the Big Sky is what it would take for the Big Sky to hold on to all their good attendance and fan supported teams.
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RE: Montana is having a GoFundMe campaign to send it's band to the Montana State game
(10-18-2017 07:21 PM)dbackjon Wrote: http://www.kpax.com/story/36621962/budge...nd-at-home
Budget cuts keeping Grizzly Marching Band at home
Due to budget cuts in the University of Montana Athletic Department, the band will not be playing music in the annual Griz vs. Bobcats football game. Director of Athletic Bands Kevin Griggs said the annual trip for the marching band was eliminated due to the budget cuts.
“We love to support the team – especially in a big rivalry game like this one – and are saddened that we won’t be able to attend,” Griggs said. “As a band, we will continue to do our best to create an energetic atmosphere at the games.”
UM’s Director of Athletics Kent Haslam said the trip cost the Athletic Department roughly $25,000 for the 130 plus marching band members to attend the game.
How expensive is it to rent an 18 wheeler to transport the instruments and rent 4 50-seater coach buses to travel 3 to 3 1/2 hrs and back?
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RE: Montana is having a GoFundMe campaign to send it's band to the Montana State game
(10-19-2017 10:52 PM)NoDak Wrote: (10-19-2017 10:44 PM)johnbragg Wrote: (10-19-2017 10:15 PM)NoDak Wrote: All these status quo posters deny the fact that the rest of the Big Sky rejected NDSU and SDSU because they were afraid the Montanas so liked them they would ditch everyone else. That is a fact that you all ignore.
That is, um, not a fact.
Quote:It was only with the Montanas feigning interest in the WAC as the Montanas threatened to leave, so the rest of the Big Sky voted UND and USD invites when the Montanas said they would stay if that happened. That is all fact from a Denver blog, but your never see it reported by the press.
Does it strike you as odd that some "Denver blog" has the real secret truth, while all the mainstream media outlets and professional journalists are clueless?
Quote:A Summit league with the Montanas, Idaho and EWU is a sure thing.
Is it more or less sure than the FBS WAC was? Because there was a time when you were sure about the FBS WAC.
Quote: Come to grips with it. Only Nevada and Boise coming back will change the dynamics enough.
..........are Nevada and Boise joining the Summit now?
There are sources but you posters refuse to do any homework.
FBS is coming to the Montanas, Idaho, EWU and the Dakotas, but on a more extended time frame than I originally thought and with a different vehicle than I thought. NDSU demanded that UND schedule two games if Fargo before they would be part of this plan, as they hadn't scheduled UND in more than 12 years.
Nevada and Boise going back to the Big Sky is what it would take for the Big Sky to hold on to all their good attendance and fan supported teams.
The burden of proof is not on us. If you want to prove something, prove it. If you can't/won't, then be prepared for people to not take you for your word on an internet forum. Right now all I see is rampant speculation based on very shaky assumptions.
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RE: Montana is having a GoFundMe campaign to send it's band to the Montana State game
The proof will be when it happens in the next six months.
I have pointed out that Denver moved to the Summit for strategic reasons, as it knew what was coming five years ago, but even that was crapped on here. Avoiding GCU was a convenient excuse, not the real strategic reason. DU wanted in the Big Sky, but the low budget schools said no. UnD, DU, and Omaha are strategic partners in hockey, and that carries over into other sports. DU and Und were the forces that got the NCHC started, and their fan bases recognize the rivalry, which has high ticket prices and sellouts associated with it. Denver aspires to be in a cconference of flagship schools and the Montana's and Idaho will bring more.
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10-21-2017 12:29 AM |
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RE: Montana is having a GoFundMe campaign to send it's band to the Montana State game
Prove that the low budget schools turned down DU. DU would have saved the Big Sky money
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RE: Montana is having a GoFundMe campaign to send it's band to the Montana State game
(10-21-2017 10:30 AM)dbackjon Wrote: Prove that the low budget schools turned down DU. DU would have saved the Big Sky money
There were at least two rounds of talks between the Big Sky and WAC reconfiguring both leagues when the WAC was down to NMSU, Idaho, Denver and Seattle. At least one time the talks blowup when Denver and Seattle refused to start football
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Montana is having a GoFundMe campaign to send it's band to the Montana State game
So by April 24 2018 the changes will be done according to you. I will remember on that date to mention this.
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RE: Montana is having a GoFundMe campaign to send it's band to the Montana State game
(10-21-2017 02:01 PM)NoDak Wrote: (10-21-2017 10:30 AM)dbackjon Wrote: Prove that the low budget schools turned down DU. DU would have saved the Big Sky money
There were at least two rounds of talks between the Big Sky and WAC reconfiguring both leagues when the WAC was down to NMSU, Idaho, Denver and Seattle. At least one time the talks blowup when Denver and Seattle refused to start football
1. Source?
2. You realize that you don't "prove" an assertion with another assertion, right?
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RE: Montana is having a GoFundMe campaign to send it's band to the Montana State game
(10-21-2017 02:01 PM)NoDak Wrote: (10-21-2017 10:30 AM)dbackjon Wrote: Prove that the low budget schools turned down DU. DU would have saved the Big Sky money
There were at least two rounds of talks between the Big Sky and WAC reconfiguring both leagues when the WAC was down to NMSU, Idaho, Denver and Seattle. At least one time the talks blowup when Denver and Seattle refused to start football
Again proof that these talks actually happen anywhere outside of your mind
In addition that is different than what you stated earlier
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RE: Montana is having a GoFundMe campaign to send it's band to the Montana State game
(10-21-2017 04:13 PM)dbackjon Wrote: (10-21-2017 02:01 PM)NoDak Wrote: (10-21-2017 10:30 AM)dbackjon Wrote: Prove that the low budget schools turned down DU. DU would have saved the Big Sky money
There were at least two rounds of talks between the Big Sky and WAC reconfiguring both leagues when the WAC was down to NMSU, Idaho, Denver and Seattle. At least one time the talks blowup when Denver and Seattle refused to start football
Again proof that these talks actually happen anywhere outside of your mind
In addition that is different than what you stated earlier
Go to the old WAC Scout board and educate yourself on that history.
You guys are just shamefully ignorant to be spouting off an a realignment board.
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RE: Montana is having a GoFundMe campaign to send it's band to the Montana State game
In NoDak's partial defense, Big Sky schools and WAC schools did have "talks" at that time. As far as I know, those talks never amounted to anything more than desperate WAC schools trying in vain to convince Big Sky schools to move up and join them. I'd bet some Big Sky/WAC realignment scenarios were thrown out along the way, but I'd have no reason to believe any of them were taken seriously by anyone in the Big Sky.
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RE: Montana is having a GoFundMe campaign to send it's band to the Montana State game
(10-21-2017 05:48 PM)NoDak Wrote: (10-21-2017 04:13 PM)dbackjon Wrote: (10-21-2017 02:01 PM)NoDak Wrote: (10-21-2017 10:30 AM)dbackjon Wrote: Prove that the low budget schools turned down DU. DU would have saved the Big Sky money
There were at least two rounds of talks between the Big Sky and WAC reconfiguring both leagues when the WAC was down to NMSU, Idaho, Denver and Seattle. At least one time the talks blowup when Denver and Seattle refused to start football
Again proof that these talks actually happen anywhere outside of your mind
In addition that is different than what you stated earlier
Go to the old WAC Scout board and educate yourself on that history.
You guys are just shamefully ignorant to be spouting off an a realignment board.
I've read the trash posted the air and again there is nothing that would back up your claim
Yes as you have a poster said the whack members were desperately trying to do something but the big sky I had no interest in it never got beyond that stage
Would be similar in your mind if UND approach the pack 12 They would tell say no but you would spit as they had talks
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Montana is having a GoFundMe campaign to send it's band to the Montana State game
(10-22-2017 12:11 AM)dbackjon Wrote: (10-21-2017 05:48 PM)NoDak Wrote: (10-21-2017 04:13 PM)dbackjon Wrote: (10-21-2017 02:01 PM)NoDak Wrote: (10-21-2017 10:30 AM)dbackjon Wrote: Prove that the low budget schools turned down DU. DU would have saved the Big Sky money
There were at least two rounds of talks between the Big Sky and WAC reconfiguring both leagues when the WAC was down to NMSU, Idaho, Denver and Seattle. At least one time the talks blowup when Denver and Seattle refused to start football
Again proof that these talks actually happen anywhere outside of your mind
In addition that is different than what you stated earlier
Go to the old WAC Scout board and educate yourself on that history.
You guys are just shamefully ignorant to be spouting off an a realignment board.
I've read the trash posted the air and again there is nothing that would back up your claim
Yes as you have a poster said the whack members were desperately trying to do something but the big sky I had no interest in it never got beyond that stage
Would be similar in your mind if UND approach the pack 12 They would tell say no but you would spit as they had talks
No Dak, the date is April 21, 2018
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RE: Montana is having a GoFundMe campaign to send it's band to the Montana State game
(10-18-2017 07:44 PM)NoDak Wrote: For someone who has been insisting that the Montanas won't go FBS and leave the Big Sky, somehow you are awfully paranoid they will.
FYI, FBS schools often have GoFundMe fundraisers for bands and cheerleaders for trips. Bands simply are expenses, not revenue producers except for certain HBCU bands.
UND's AD just retired. Expect the new one will come from Mich St (assist AD) and former UND QB and TV Sports announcer that is the hand picked choice of our prospective billionaire stadium donor.
It is 180 miles on a bus. Huge expense there
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