(11-18-2017 06:34 PM)nucyberdawg Wrote:  DESPITE being COLD WEATHER HUSKIES ...NIU in bowl games in warm climates go together like chili... beer....and gas.

I mean, the only cold temperature bowl was in Boise and they won easily.

(11-18-2017 04:44 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  I always look forward to watching NIU play in a bowl but will say that the MAC easily has the worst primary tie-ins. Half the games are against the Sun Belt and one of the games is out of the country.

We desperately need a Sun Belt opponent though. Probably our only shot at finally winning a bowl game and not getting embarrassed. But we need a Sun Belt opponent that has an average offense.

Lets just win the bowl we get in!

(11-18-2017 07:13 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 04:44 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  I always look forward to watching NIU play in a bowl but will say that the MAC easily has the worst primary tie-ins. Half the games are against the Sun Belt and one of the games is out of the country.

We desperately need a Sun Belt opponent though. Probably our only shot at finally winning a bowl game and not getting embarrassed. But we need a Sun Belt opponent that has an average offense.

Epasnoopy, I cannot understand how a fellow NIU football superfan, cares so much about winning a Bowl game to the degree that you will rather not be in a Bowl game where NIU is blown out.

A Bowl game gets an extra month of practice for the FB team. This means that having a month less than other teams, which logically would translate to a disadvantage for the returning players the following year. Joe Novak would call this a coach's Christmas gift. This alone should make you wish to celebrate the awarding of a post season Bowl game. Nothwithstanding the send-off it gives to the seniors, the extra time to bond as a FB team and the possible extra recruiting advantage. Yes FB -layers want to be in a Bowl game, even if they get blown out. It's the bonding e perish even that they remember.

You do realize that NIU does not have the depth of many P5 schools, so injuries to key players really decrease a team's ability to perform post season at the level of early season.

Thirdly there is no financial incentive to win a Bowl game.

Finally while Rod Carey has not yet won a post season Bowl game, NIU has won Bowl games before.

Beating a P5 team in the early season means so much more than beating a Sunbelt team in a Bowl game. It gets the fan base excited, might translate into more ticket sales, more interest in NIU FB. However Winning a non big money Bowl game is far less likely to generate the same enthusiasm.

Finally I would love to see NIU win this years post season Bowl game because it means so. I hope to you.

(11-18-2017 07:47 PM)sterling1man Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 07:13 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 04:44 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  I always look forward to watching NIU play in a bowl but will say that the MAC easily has the worst primary tie-ins. Half the games are against the Sun Belt and one of the games is out of the country.

We desperately need a Sun Belt opponent though. Probably our only shot at finally winning a bowl game and not getting embarrassed. But we need a Sun Belt opponent that has an average offense.

Epasnoopy, I cannot understand how a fellow NIU football superfan, cares so much about winning a Bowl game to the degree that you will rather not be in a Bowl game where NIU is blown out.

A Bowl game gets an extra month of practice for the FB team. This means that having a month less than other teams, which logically would translate to a disadvantage for the returning players the following year. Joe Novak would call this a coach's Christmas gift. This alone should make you wish to celebrate the awarding of a post season Bowl game. Nothwithstanding the send-off it gives to the seniors, the extra time to bond as a FB team and the possible extra recruiting advantage. Yes FB -layers want to be in a Bowl game, even if they get blown out. It's the bonding e perish even that they remember.

You do realize that NIU does not have the depth of many P5 schools, so injuries to key players really decrease a team's ability to perform post season at the level of early season.

Thirdly there is no financial incentive to win a Bowl game.

Finally while Rod Carey has not yet won a post season Bowl game, NIU has won Bowl games before.

Beating a P5 team in the early season means so much more than beating a Sunbelt team in a Bowl game. It gets the fan base excited, might translate into more ticket sales, more interest in NIU FB. However Winning a non big money Bowl game is far less likely to generate the same enthusiasm.

Finally I would love to see NIU win this years post season Bowl game because it means so. I hope to you.

I just don't think you can call them postseason games. Post season implies like it is correlated to accomplishment , which it obviously isn't

(11-18-2017 07:51 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 07:47 PM)sterling1man Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 07:13 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 04:44 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  I always look forward to watching NIU play in a bowl but will say that the MAC easily has the worst primary tie-ins. Half the games are against the Sun Belt and one of the games is out of the country.

We desperately need a Sun Belt opponent though. Probably our only shot at finally winning a bowl game and not getting embarrassed. But we need a Sun Belt opponent that has an average offense.

Epasnoopy, I cannot understand how a fellow NIU football superfan, cares so much about winning a Bowl game to the degree that you will rather not be in a Bowl game where NIU is blown out.

A Bowl game gets an extra month of practice for the FB team. This means that having a month less than other teams, which logically would translate to a disadvantage for the returning players the following year. Joe Novak would call this a coach's Christmas gift. This alone should make you wish to celebrate the awarding of a post season Bowl game. Nothwithstanding the send-off it gives to the seniors, the extra time to bond as a FB team and the possible extra recruiting advantage. Yes FB -layers want to be in a Bowl game, even if they get blown out. It's the bonding e perish even that they remember.

You do realize that NIU does not have the depth of many P5 schools, so injuries to key players really decrease a team's ability to perform post season at the level of early season.

Thirdly there is no financial incentive to win a Bowl game.

Finally while Rod Carey has not yet won a post season Bowl game, NIU has won Bowl games before.

Beating a P5 team in the early season means so much more than beating a Sunbelt team in a Bowl game. It gets the fan base excited, might translate into more ticket sales, more interest in NIU FB. However Winning a non big money Bowl game is far less likely to generate the same enthusiasm.

Finally I would love to see NIU win this years post season Bowl game because it means so. I hope to you.

I just don't think you can call them postseason games. Post season implies like it is correlated to accomplishment , which it obviously isn't

I disagree. I think it 100% counts as an accomplishment. There are many teams that will Not be Bowling this year. Those teams would all love to be eligible. Remember how excited people got when we almost got an invite to a bowl with less than 6 wins because of the Minnesota scandal?( how soon people forget about the Minnesota team that no longer wanted to take the field) It’s even better if we can win! It’s a Cherry on top unless we get trashed again.

(11-18-2017 08:01 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 07:51 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 07:47 PM)sterling1man Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 07:13 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 04:44 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  I always look forward to watching NIU play in a bowl but will say that the MAC easily has the worst primary tie-ins. Half the games are against the Sun Belt and one of the games is out of the country.

We desperately need a Sun Belt opponent though. Probably our only shot at finally winning a bowl game and not getting embarrassed. But we need a Sun Belt opponent that has an average offense.

Epasnoopy, I cannot understand how a fellow NIU football superfan, cares so much about winning a Bowl game to the degree that you will rather not be in a Bowl game where NIU is blown out.

A Bowl game gets an extra month of practice for the FB team. This means that having a month less than other teams, which logically would translate to a disadvantage for the returning players the following year. Joe Novak would call this a coach's Christmas gift. This alone should make you wish to celebrate the awarding of a post season Bowl game. Nothwithstanding the send-off it gives to the seniors, the extra time to bond as a FB team and the possible extra recruiting advantage. Yes FB -layers want to be in a Bowl game, even if they get blown out. It's the bonding e perish even that they remember.

You do realize that NIU does not have the depth of many P5 schools, so injuries to key players really decrease a team's ability to perform post season at the level of early season.

Thirdly there is no financial incentive to win a Bowl game.

Finally while Rod Carey has not yet won a post season Bowl game, NIU has won Bowl games before.

Beating a P5 team in the early season means so much more than beating a Sunbelt team in a Bowl game. It gets the fan base excited, might translate into more ticket sales, more interest in NIU FB. However Winning a non big money Bowl game is far less likely to generate the same enthusiasm.

Finally I would love to see NIU win this years post season Bowl game because it means so. I hope to you.

I just don't think you can call them postseason games. Post season implies like it is correlated to accomplishment , which it obviously isn't

I disagree. I think it 100% counts as an accomplishment. There are many teams that will Not be Bowling this year. Those teams would all love to be eligible. Remember how excited people got when we almost got an invite to a bowl with less than 6 wins because of the Minnesota scandal?( how soon people forget about the Minnesota team that no longer wanted to take the field) It’s even better if we can win! It’s a Cherry on top unless we get trashed again.

Guess we will have to disagree. I don't see one bit of correlation to accomplishment When you can be the fifth or sixth MaC team in and get the best matchup , that goes to show what a joke it is That's one thing I'll never criticize Carey for is bowl record. Players don't want to play them , coaches don't want to coach, most fans don't care. Hard to take anything out

(11-18-2017 08:01 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 07:51 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 07:47 PM)sterling1man Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 07:13 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 04:44 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  I always look forward to watching NIU play in a bowl but will say that the MAC easily has the worst primary tie-ins. Half the games are against the Sun Belt and one of the games is out of the country.

We desperately need a Sun Belt opponent though. Probably our only shot at finally winning a bowl game and not getting embarrassed. But we need a Sun Belt opponent that has an average offense.

Epasnoopy, I cannot understand how a fellow NIU football superfan, cares so much about winning a Bowl game to the degree that you will rather not be in a Bowl game where NIU is blown out.

A Bowl game gets an extra month of practice for the FB team. This means that having a month less than other teams, which logically would translate to a disadvantage for the returning players the following year. Joe Novak would call this a coach's Christmas gift. This alone should make you wish to celebrate the awarding of a post season Bowl game. Nothwithstanding the send-off it gives to the seniors, the extra time to bond as a FB team and the possible extra recruiting advantage. Yes FB -layers want to be in a Bowl game, even if they get blown out. It's the bonding e perish even that they remember.

You do realize that NIU does not have the depth of many P5 schools, so injuries to key players really decrease a team's ability to perform post season at the level of early season.

Thirdly there is no financial incentive to win a Bowl game.

Finally while Rod Carey has not yet won a post season Bowl game, NIU has won Bowl games before.

Beating a P5 team in the early season means so much more than beating a Sunbelt team in a Bowl game. It gets the fan base excited, might translate into more ticket sales, more interest in NIU FB. However Winning a non big money Bowl game is far less likely to generate the same enthusiasm.

Finally I would love to see NIU win this years post season Bowl game because it means so. I hope to you.

I just don't think you can call them postseason games. Post season implies like it is correlated to accomplishment , which it obviously isn't

I disagree. I think it 100% counts as an accomplishment. There are many teams that will Not be Bowling this year. Those teams would all love to be eligible. Remember how excited people got when we almost got an invite to a bowl with less than 6 wins because of the Minnesota scandal?( how soon people forget about the Minnesota team that no longer wanted to take the field) It’s even better if we can win! It’s a Cherry on top unless we get trashed again.

Yes, it is 1000% an accomplishment and HUGE recruiting tool

(11-18-2017 08:34 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 08:01 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 07:51 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 07:47 PM)sterling1man Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 07:13 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  We desperately need a Sun Belt opponent though. Probably our only shot at finally winning a bowl game and not getting embarrassed. But we need a Sun Belt opponent that has an average offense.

Epasnoopy, I cannot understand how a fellow NIU football superfan, cares so much about winning a Bowl game to the degree that you will rather not be in a Bowl game where NIU is blown out.

A Bowl game gets an extra month of practice for the FB team. This means that having a month less than other teams, which logically would translate to a disadvantage for the returning players the following year. Joe Novak would call this a coach's Christmas gift. This alone should make you wish to celebrate the awarding of a post season Bowl game. Nothwithstanding the send-off it gives to the seniors, the extra time to bond as a FB team and the possible extra recruiting advantage. Yes FB -layers want to be in a Bowl game, even if they get blown out. It's the bonding e perish even that they remember.

You do realize that NIU does not have the depth of many P5 schools, so injuries to key players really decrease a team's ability to perform post season at the level of early season.

Thirdly there is no financial incentive to win a Bowl game.

Finally while Rod Carey has not yet won a post season Bowl game, NIU has won Bowl games before.

Beating a P5 team in the early season means so much more than beating a Sunbelt team in a Bowl game. It gets the fan base excited, might translate into more ticket sales, more interest in NIU FB. However Winning a non big money Bowl game is far less likely to generate the same enthusiasm.

Finally I would love to see NIU win this years post season Bowl game because it means so. I hope to you.

I just don't think you can call them postseason games. Post season implies like it is correlated to accomplishment , which it obviously isn't

I disagree. I think it 100% counts as an accomplishment. There are many teams that will Not be Bowling this year. Those teams would all love to be eligible. Remember how excited people got when we almost got an invite to a bowl with less than 6 wins because of the Minnesota scandal?( how soon people forget about the Minnesota team that no longer wanted to take the field) It’s even better if we can win! It’s a Cherry on top unless we get trashed again.

Yes, it is 1000% an accomplishment and HUGE recruiting tool

Oh this is really really rich. You spent so much time saying how the MAC is full of "GARBAGE" teams, so going 6-6 in a GARBAGE conference is an accomplishment. BS Meter just went hyper hyper crazy.

Not to mention you have called the Access Bowl, the sympathy bowl, take a freaking lane, you are all over the road

(11-18-2017 08:05 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 08:01 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 07:51 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 07:47 PM)sterling1man Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 07:13 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  We desperately need a Sun Belt opponent though. Probably our only shot at finally winning a bowl game and not getting embarrassed. But we need a Sun Belt opponent that has an average offense.

Epasnoopy, I cannot understand how a fellow NIU football superfan, cares so much about winning a Bowl game to the degree that you will rather not be in a Bowl game where NIU is blown out.

A Bowl game gets an extra month of practice for the FB team. This means that having a month less than other teams, which logically would translate to a disadvantage for the returning players the following year. Joe Novak would call this a coach's Christmas gift. This alone should make you wish to celebrate the awarding of a post season Bowl game. Nothwithstanding the send-off it gives to the seniors, the extra time to bond as a FB team and the possible extra recruiting advantage. Yes FB -layers want to be in a Bowl game, even if they get blown out. It's the bonding e perish even that they remember.

You do realize that NIU does not have the depth of many P5 schools, so injuries to key players really decrease a team's ability to perform post season at the level of early season.

Thirdly there is no financial incentive to win a Bowl game.

Finally while Rod Carey has not yet won a post season Bowl game, NIU has won Bowl games before.

Beating a P5 team in the early season means so much more than beating a Sunbelt team in a Bowl game. It gets the fan base excited, might translate into more ticket sales, more interest in NIU FB. However Winning a non big money Bowl game is far less likely to generate the same enthusiasm.

Finally I would love to see NIU win this years post season Bowl game because it means so. I hope to you.

I just don't think you can call them postseason games. Post season implies like it is correlated to accomplishment , which it obviously isn't

I disagree. I think it 100% counts as an accomplishment. There are many teams that will Not be Bowling this year. Those teams would all love to be eligible. Remember how excited people got when we almost got an invite to a bowl with less than 6 wins because of the Minnesota scandal?( how soon people forget about the Minnesota team that no longer wanted to take the field) It’s even better if we can win! It’s a Cherry on top unless we get trashed again.

Guess we will have to disagree. I don't see one bit of correlation to accomplishment When you can be the fifth or sixth MaC team in and get the best matchup , that goes to show what a joke it is That's one thing I'll never criticize Carey for is bowl record. Players don't want to play them , coaches don't want to coach, most fans don't care. Hard to take anything out

Your a disgrace, this is the dumbest post you ever made.

1) Players get extra practice, get to play in another game, and get to participate in the bowl game activities.
2) The coaches want the kids to practice more for next year, this is an advantage vs the other teams who dont get this practice time. This is a OOC match-up vs another team above .500. OOC in the beginning of the season is a crap shoot because it may end up the teams you played finish under .500. Coaches get incentive bonus if they win and if they even make a bowl.
3) These games are the highest TV ratings a MAC team will receive the whole year, except maybe vs a P5 if its on a network during OOC. So yes, fans care and people watch.

Your just salty because the MAC sucks during bowl season and they look like crap. Not to mention NIU has been embarrassed in our bowl matchups in recent memory vs other G5 schools (Utah State, Boise State, Marshall). So in your mind, you would love to diminish the importance.

(11-18-2017 09:33 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 08:05 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 08:01 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 07:51 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 07:47 PM)sterling1man Wrote:  Epasnoopy, I cannot understand how a fellow NIU football superfan, cares so much about winning a Bowl game to the degree that you will rather not be in a Bowl game where NIU is blown out.

A Bowl game gets an extra month of practice for the FB team. This means that having a month less than other teams, which logically would translate to a disadvantage for the returning players the following year. Joe Novak would call this a coach's Christmas gift. This alone should make you wish to celebrate the awarding of a post season Bowl game. Nothwithstanding the send-off it gives to the seniors, the extra time to bond as a FB team and the possible extra recruiting advantage. Yes FB -layers want to be in a Bowl game, even if they get blown out. It's the bonding e perish even that they remember.

You do realize that NIU does not have the depth of many P5 schools, so injuries to key players really decrease a team's ability to perform post season at the level of early season.

Thirdly there is no financial incentive to win a Bowl game.

Finally while Rod Carey has not yet won a post season Bowl game, NIU has won Bowl games before.

Beating a P5 team in the early season means so much more than beating a Sunbelt team in a Bowl game. It gets the fan base excited, might translate into more ticket sales, more interest in NIU FB. However Winning a non big money Bowl game is far less likely to generate the same enthusiasm.

Finally I would love to see NIU win this years post season Bowl game because it means so. I hope to you.

I just don't think you can call them postseason games. Post season implies like it is correlated to accomplishment , which it obviously isn't

I disagree. I think it 100% counts as an accomplishment. There are many teams that will Not be Bowling this year. Those teams would all love to be eligible. Remember how excited people got when we almost got an invite to a bowl with less than 6 wins because of the Minnesota scandal?( how soon people forget about the Minnesota team that no longer wanted to take the field) It’s even better if we can win! It’s a Cherry on top unless we get trashed again.

Guess we will have to disagree. I don't see one bit of correlation to accomplishment When you can be the fifth or sixth MaC team in and get the best matchup , that goes to show what a joke it is That's one thing I'll never criticize Carey for is bowl record. Players don't want to play them , coaches don't want to coach, most fans don't care. Hard to take anything out

Your a disgrace, this is the dumbest post you ever made.

1) Players get extra practice, get to play in another game, and get to participate in the bowl game activities.
2) The coaches want the kids to practice more for next year, this is an advantage vs the other teams who dont get this practice time. This is a OOC match-up vs another team above .500. OOC in the beginning of the season is a crap shoot because it may end up the teams you played finish under .500. Coaches get incentive bonus if they win and if they even make a bowl.
3) These games are the highest TV ratings a MAC team will receive the whole year, except maybe vs a P5 if its on a network during OOC. So yes, fans care and people watch.

Your just salty because the MAC sucks during bowl season and they look like crap. Not to mention NIU has been embarrassed in our bowl matchups in recent memory vs other G5 schools (Utah State, Boise State, Marshall). So in your mind, you would love to diminish the importance.

Your rationale for why bowl games are important reminds me of my Mom trying to make me eat peas as a youngster. Not overly convincing to say the least. Can anyone even remember one MAC bowl matchup last season, I honestly could not tell you what the 1 opponent was of any MAC team in a bowl game last year, they are just the biggest meaningless thing around. I mean its cool to have something to pass the time when its 10 below zero outside, but the game has no "post-season" significance, its just a game. My argument would be, since its not based on performance, just allow teams to add a team to their schedule and give them the flexibility to schedule who they want. Sure beats this random pairing of teams to make up another game. Of course my first option would be to create a real post-season college format, but I realize the powers that be would never allow that.

I think a distinction needs to be made between qualifying for a bowl and winning one. Yes, qualifying for a bowl is a big deal, because it gets your name out there, gets you the extra practices, etc. But as for who actually wins? Doesn't matter too much to me, at least compared to winning the MAC and boneyard wins in the meat of the season.

Win a frigging bowl game for a little respect.

(11-18-2017 11:10 PM)Max Power Wrote:  I think a distinction needs to be made between qualifying for a bowl and winning one. Yes, qualifying for a bowl is a big deal, because it gets your name out there, gets you the extra practices, etc. But as for who actually wins? Doesn't matter too much to me, at least compared to winning the MAC and boneyard wins in the meat of the season.

Going 6-6 is a big deal? I can't even remember the bowl games the MAC played last year, they are beyond meaningless

(11-18-2017 09:57 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 09:33 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 08:05 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 08:01 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 07:51 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  I just don't think you can call them postseason games. Post season implies like it is correlated to accomplishment , which it obviously isn't

I disagree. I think it 100% counts as an accomplishment. There are many teams that will Not be Bowling this year. Those teams would all love to be eligible. Remember how excited people got when we almost got an invite to a bowl with less than 6 wins because of the Minnesota scandal?( how soon people forget about the Minnesota team that no longer wanted to take the field) It’s even better if we can win! It’s a Cherry on top unless we get trashed again.

Guess we will have to disagree. I don't see one bit of correlation to accomplishment When you can be the fifth or sixth MaC team in and get the best matchup , that goes to show what a joke it is That's one thing I'll never criticize Carey for is bowl record. Players don't want to play them , coaches don't want to coach, most fans don't care. Hard to take anything out

Your a disgrace, this is the dumbest post you ever made.

1) Players get extra practice, get to play in another game, and get to participate in the bowl game activities.
2) The coaches want the kids to practice more for next year, this is an advantage vs the other teams who dont get this practice time. This is a OOC match-up vs another team above .500. OOC in the beginning of the season is a crap shoot because it may end up the teams you played finish under .500. Coaches get incentive bonus if they win and if they even make a bowl.
3) These games are the highest TV ratings a MAC team will receive the whole year, except maybe vs a P5 if its on a network during OOC. So yes, fans care and people watch.

Your just salty because the MAC sucks during bowl season and they look like crap. Not to mention NIU has been embarrassed in our bowl matchups in recent memory vs other G5 schools (Utah State, Boise State, Marshall). So in your mind, you would love to diminish the importance.

Your rationale for why bowl games are important reminds me of my Mom trying to make me eat peas as a youngster. Not overly convincing to say the least. Can anyone even remember one MAC bowl matchup last season, I honestly could not tell you what the 1 opponent was of any MAC team in a bowl game last year, they are just the biggest meaningless thing around. I mean its cool to have something to pass the time when its 10 below zero outside, but the game has no "post-season" significance, its just a game. My argument would be, since its not based on performance, just allow teams to add a team to their schedule and give them the flexibility to schedule who they want. Sure beats this random pairing of teams to make up another game. Of course my first option would be to create a real post-season college format, but I realize the powers that be would never allow that.

The MAC Bowls get higher ratings than the MACC, hence more people have seen and will remember a MAC bowl game. The NIU vs Marshall and Boise were extremely hyped, and was among the highest Non-T25 matchup of the bowl season in those respective years. Your undervaluing the significance of these flops, and the potential match-ups in the future.

I agree the system does not reward successful teams fairly because it has been corrupted by TV dollars, but every MAC team still plays for 1) to win the MACC and 2) to make a bowl game.

(11-18-2017 11:28 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 09:57 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 09:33 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 08:05 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 08:01 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  I disagree. I think it 100% counts as an accomplishment. There are many teams that will Not be Bowling this year. Those teams would all love to be eligible. Remember how excited people got when we almost got an invite to a bowl with less than 6 wins because of the Minnesota scandal?( how soon people forget about the Minnesota team that no longer wanted to take the field) It’s even better if we can win! It’s a Cherry on top unless we get trashed again.

Guess we will have to disagree. I don't see one bit of correlation to accomplishment When you can be the fifth or sixth MaC team in and get the best matchup , that goes to show what a joke it is That's one thing I'll never criticize Carey for is bowl record. Players don't want to play them , coaches don't want to coach, most fans don't care. Hard to take anything out

Your a disgrace, this is the dumbest post you ever made.

1) Players get extra practice, get to play in another game, and get to participate in the bowl game activities.
2) The coaches want the kids to practice more for next year, this is an advantage vs the other teams who dont get this practice time. This is a OOC match-up vs another team above .500. OOC in the beginning of the season is a crap shoot because it may end up the teams you played finish under .500. Coaches get incentive bonus if they win and if they even make a bowl.
3) These games are the highest TV ratings a MAC team will receive the whole year, except maybe vs a P5 if its on a network during OOC. So yes, fans care and people watch.

Your just salty because the MAC sucks during bowl season and they look like crap. Not to mention NIU has been embarrassed in our bowl matchups in recent memory vs other G5 schools (Utah State, Boise State, Marshall). So in your mind, you would love to diminish the importance.

Your rationale for why bowl games are important reminds me of my Mom trying to make me eat peas as a youngster. Not overly convincing to say the least. Can anyone even remember one MAC bowl matchup last season, I honestly could not tell you what the 1 opponent was of any MAC team in a bowl game last year, they are just the biggest meaningless thing around. I mean its cool to have something to pass the time when its 10 below zero outside, but the game has no "post-season" significance, its just a game. My argument would be, since its not based on performance, just allow teams to add a team to their schedule and give them the flexibility to schedule who they want. Sure beats this random pairing of teams to make up another game. Of course my first option would be to create a real post-season college format, but I realize the powers that be would never allow that.

The MAC Bowls get higher ratings than the MACC, hence more people have seen and will remember a MAC bowl game. The NIU vs Marshall and Boise were extremely hyped, and was among the highest Non-T25 matchup of the bowl season in those respective years. Your undervaluing the significance of these flops, and the potential match-ups in the future.

I agree the system does not reward successful teams fairly because it has been corrupted by TV dollars, but every MAC team still plays for 1) to win the MACC and 2) to make a bowl game.

If you took a secret ballot of MAC Players, Id bet my life savings > 50% would say they would rather stay home for holidays with family and friends than play in an exhibition game

(11-18-2017 11:17 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 11:10 PM)Max Power Wrote:  I think a distinction needs to be made between qualifying for a bowl and winning one. Yes, qualifying for a bowl is a big deal, because it gets your name out there, gets you the extra practices, etc. But as for who actually wins? Doesn't matter too much to me, at least compared to winning the MAC and boneyard wins in the meat of the season.

Going 6-6 is a big deal? I can't even remember the bowl games the MAC played last year, they are beyond meaningless

This is not true and it's obvious your are just throwing crap out there to try and defend some very illogical comments. Yes the bowls have gotten watered down but to claim it is not an accomplishment is nonsense. Recruits do look at that. They are also NOT meaningless because they build the legacy of a program. I'd love to have more trophies lining the halls of the Hall of Champions. You don't get a trophy for beating an under .500 Big10 school. Beating a Power 5 team is bragging rights but you don't see any trace of beating them in our trophy cases. Perhaps a game ball but that's it. You mean to tell me that you don't get a sense of pride when you walk through the Yordon Center or hallway? Then your aren't a real Huskie fan. I'm proud of the GoDaddy trophy because it means we beat a solid team from a comparable conference. Arkansas State was the league champ. Even if we were .500 but won a bowl I'd still consider it great for the team. It's also great publicity even if we don't win.

(11-18-2017 11:39 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 11:28 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 09:57 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 09:33 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 08:05 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Guess we will have to disagree. I don't see one bit of correlation to accomplishment When you can be the fifth or sixth MaC team in and get the best matchup , that goes to show what a joke it is That's one thing I'll never criticize Carey for is bowl record. Players don't want to play them , coaches don't want to coach, most fans don't care. Hard to take anything out

Your a disgrace, this is the dumbest post you ever made.

1) Players get extra practice, get to play in another game, and get to participate in the bowl game activities.
2) The coaches want the kids to practice more for next year, this is an advantage vs the other teams who dont get this practice time. This is a OOC match-up vs another team above .500. OOC in the beginning of the season is a crap shoot because it may end up the teams you played finish under .500. Coaches get incentive bonus if they win and if they even make a bowl.
3) These games are the highest TV ratings a MAC team will receive the whole year, except maybe vs a P5 if its on a network during OOC. So yes, fans care and people watch.

Your just salty because the MAC sucks during bowl season and they look like crap. Not to mention NIU has been embarrassed in our bowl matchups in recent memory vs other G5 schools (Utah State, Boise State, Marshall). So in your mind, you would love to diminish the importance.

Your rationale for why bowl games are important reminds me of my Mom trying to make me eat peas as a youngster. Not overly convincing to say the least. Can anyone even remember one MAC bowl matchup last season, I honestly could not tell you what the 1 opponent was of any MAC team in a bowl game last year, they are just the biggest meaningless thing around. I mean its cool to have something to pass the time when its 10 below zero outside, but the game has no "post-season" significance, its just a game. My argument would be, since its not based on performance, just allow teams to add a team to their schedule and give them the flexibility to schedule who they want. Sure beats this random pairing of teams to make up another game. Of course my first option would be to create a real post-season college format, but I realize the powers that be would never allow that.

The MAC Bowls get higher ratings than the MACC, hence more people have seen and will remember a MAC bowl game. The NIU vs Marshall and Boise were extremely hyped, and was among the highest Non-T25 matchup of the bowl season in those respective years. Your undervaluing the significance of these flops, and the potential match-ups in the future.

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I agree the system does not reward successful teams fairly because it has been corrupted by TV dollars, but every MAC team still plays for 1) to win the MACC and 2) to make a bowl game.

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If you took a secret ballot of MAC Players, Id bet my life savings > 50% would say they would rather stay home for holidays with family and friends than play in an exhibition game

MD I would also like to see a postseason format instead.
Until the B1G gets shut out of playoffs, I do not see B1Gptesidents instructing Delaney to allow it to happen.

MD, it seems that you never participated in Football on a succesful and competitive level!!!!
What is more it seems that you never busted your butt in any team sport and achieved State and or National prominence.

If you did you might realize that it is more than having your mom tell you to eat peas.
Secondly you might realize that if y-u commit 60-80 hours a week in a team activity it becomes a part of you.
The team becomes a temporary family that you bind with and your practices are all focused towards this post season recognition.

Please do not bet your life savings on this ridiculous statement MD.
I like your confidence but respectfully disagree with your opinion on the matter of Bowl games.

You are reflecting your own opinion on those of the FB players.

(11-18-2017 11:55 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 11:17 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 11:10 PM)Max Power Wrote:  I think a distinction needs to be made between qualifying for a bowl and winning one. Yes, qualifying for a bowl is a big deal, because it gets your name out there, gets you the extra practices, etc. But as for who actually wins? Doesn't matter too much to me, at least compared to winning the MAC and boneyard wins in the meat of the season.

Going 6-6 is a big deal? I can't even remember the bowl games the MAC played last year, they are beyond meaningless

This is not true and it's obvious your are just throwing crap out there to try and defend some very illogical comments. Yes the bowls have gotten watered down but to claim it is not an accomplishment is nonsense. Recruits do look at that. They are also NOT meaningless because they build the legacy of a program. I'd love to have more trophies lining the halls of the Hall of Champions. You don't get a trophy for beating an under .500 Big10 school. Beating a Power 5 team is bragging rights but you don't see any trace of beating them in our trophy cases. Perhaps a game ball but that's it. You mean to tell me that you don't get a sense of pride when you walk through the Yordon Center or hallway? Then your aren't a real Huskie fan. I'm proud of the GoDaddy trophy because it means we beat a solid team from a comparable conference. Arkansas State was the league champ. Even if we were .500 but won a bowl I'd still consider it great for the team. It's also great publicity even if we don't win.

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I am not sure recruits come to NIU because NIU MIGHT have a shot to play Arkansas State or LA Tech. Recruits are drawn to the non-conf schedule, playing P5 opponents.