(10-18-2017 02:39 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  

(10-18-2017 01:37 PM)panama Wrote:  

(10-18-2017 01:20 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  

(10-18-2017 12:33 PM)GSUALUM Wrote:  Houston...Nutt

I hate to say this but right now I'd take him.

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Ummm...wow

It's bad Panama, it's bad.

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Been there

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(10-17-2017 04:59 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  

(10-17-2017 12:10 PM)panama Wrote:  Wasnt that all in FCS?

Southern was in the FCS yes, but we played FBS programs while AP was here.
And he still put up monster numbers against those P5 (BCS) defenses .... and all while running behind an FCS line.

It stands to reason that if we could do as well as we did against P5 defenses (which nearly all we could get to play us) with only FCS recruiting, then we should be better with FBS recruiting, at the very lest... just as good.

Peterson broke 100 yards in every FBS or 1-AA playoff he played in until his last game against Furman in the 2001 playoffs, when he got speared in the small of the back and missed a good part of the second half. GS running the option put up over 40 on Oregon State in 1999, 28 on UGA in 2004, and was the only team to rush for over 300 yards against Alabama's NFL defense in 2011.

As for the lower levels of FBS being better than FCS, there ain't anybody in this conference that is better than NDSU's 2013 team, App in 2006, or GS in 1999.

GS's 2014 team ran the table in the 'belt and that team wasn't any better than the GS teams in 2012, 2011, 2004, 2002, 2001, 2000, 1999, 1998, 1989, 1988 or 1986.

(10-18-2017 03:54 PM)Scrotumus Wrote:  

(10-17-2017 04:59 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  

(10-17-2017 12:10 PM)panama Wrote:  Wasnt that all in FCS?

Southern was in the FCS yes, but we played FBS programs while AP was here.
And he still put up monster numbers against those P5 (BCS) defenses .... and all while running behind an FCS line.

It stands to reason that if we could do as well as we did against P5 defenses (which nearly all we could get to play us) with only FCS recruiting, then we should be better with FBS recruiting, at the very lest... just as good.

Peterson broke 100 yards in every FBS or 1-AA playoff he played in until his last game against Furman in the 2001 playoffs, when he got speared in the small of the back and missed a good part of the second half. GS running the option put up over 40 on Oregon State in 1999, 28 on UGA in 2004, and was the only team to rush for over 300 yards against Alabama's NFL defense in 2011.

As for the lower levels of FBS being better than FCS, there ain't anybody in this conference that is better than NDSU's 2013 team, App in 2006, or GS in 1999.

GS's 2014 team ran the table in the 'belt and that team wasn't any better than the GS teams in 2012, 2011, 2004, 2002, 2001, 2000, 1999, 1998, 1989, 1988 or 1986.

Not accurate on Peterson. App St stopped the streak. They sold out to stop AP and JR Revere had a great day running the ball with all the focus on Peterson. And we won at the rock.

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I nominate this guy for Ga Southern

http://www.ksuowls.com/coaches.aspx?rc=1209&path=fb

(10-19-2017 01:11 AM)MadEagle Wrote:  I nominate this guy for Ga Southern

http://www.ksuowls.com/coaches.aspx?rc=1209&path=fb

Second

Believe me. He has our attention but from this past debacle it’s pretty clear that our AD doesn’t choose coaches based on merit.

(10-17-2017 09:04 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(10-17-2017 02:43 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(10-17-2017 12:38 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  Which would beg the question, why doesn't this occur at the FBS level? Alabama, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, and Nebraska all had great success with it, but they abandoned it. Gotta be a reason.

I explained it to asuwon...

Only five teams in the power FCS conferences (the Citadel, VMI, Furman, Wofford, and Cal Poly) to my knowledge run the option. The offense that we won a record 6 national championships with. It's a false assumption that schools are going to run the offensive scheme that's best for their program. If that were true the option would proliferate more in the lower divisions.

You won with the option because of one thing. Most secondaries in IAA are slow and can't slide side to side. Therefore they can't play good gap coverage. When you went up against the best of the best in IA you usually came out a loser.

Lets go back to GA Southern entering the SoCon in 1993, in 4 years the option scored a whopping 43 points on Marshall (13, 10, 7, 13) that's less than some scores you would put up on VMI or Western Carolina at times in a single game. And why did you score so lil. Our corners, LBs and safeties where fast and could slide. Same happened/s when you go up against the people from Boone or more recently when you went up against NDSU.

Also you can't just go out and recruit athletes anymore and just plug and play in IA, to even think about playing the option in IA you will have to get skill people at each position, including your OL. And why, because those fast secondaries in IAA is just a common thing in IA even at the non power 5 level.

This maybe the dumbest **** I have ever read in my life. Navy has damn near pulled upsets over Ohio State the last two times they played them. Ga Tech see's speed every year in the ACC and still ranks near the top of conference every year this eccept 2015.

Navy, Army, Air Force, and New Mexico are winning ball games with triple option football. Woford, Charleston Southern and Kennsaw State win alot of games running triple option.

(10-18-2017 08:49 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  

(10-18-2017 03:54 PM)Scrotumus Wrote:  

(10-17-2017 04:59 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  

(10-17-2017 12:10 PM)panama Wrote:  Wasnt that all in FCS?

Southern was in the FCS yes, but we played FBS programs while AP was here.
And he still put up monster numbers against those P5 (BCS) defenses .... and all while running behind an FCS line.

It stands to reason that if we could do as well as we did against P5 defenses (which nearly all we could get to play us) with only FCS recruiting, then we should be better with FBS recruiting, at the very lest... just as good.

Peterson broke 100 yards in every FBS or 1-AA playoff he played in until his last game against Furman in the 2001 playoffs, when he got speared in the small of the back and missed a good part of the second half. GS running the option put up over 40 on Oregon State in 1999, 28 on UGA in 2004, and was the only team to rush for over 300 yards against Alabama's NFL defense in 2011.

As for the lower levels of FBS being better than FCS, there ain't anybody in this conference that is better than NDSU's 2013 team, App in 2006, or GS in 1999.

GS's 2014 team ran the table in the 'belt and that team wasn't any better than the GS teams in 2012, 2011, 2004, 2002, 2001, 2000, 1999, 1998, 1989, 1988 or 1986.

Not accurate on Peterson. App St stopped the streak. They sold out to stop AP and JR Revere had a great day running the ball with all the focus on Peterson. And we won at the rock.

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SB, read it again very closely, "Peterson broke 100 yards in every FBS or 1-AA playoff he played in until his last game against Furman in the 2001 playoffs..."

(10-18-2017 08:49 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  

(10-18-2017 03:54 PM)Scrotumus Wrote:  

(10-17-2017 04:59 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  

(10-17-2017 12:10 PM)panama Wrote:  Wasnt that all in FCS?

Southern was in the FCS yes, but we played FBS programs while AP was here.
And he still put up monster numbers against those P5 (BCS) defenses .... and all while running behind an FCS line.

It stands to reason that if we could do as well as we did against P5 defenses (which nearly all we could get to play us) with only FCS recruiting, then we should be better with FBS recruiting, at the very lest... just as good.

Peterson broke 100 yards in every FBS or 1-AA playoff he played in until his last game against Furman in the 2001 playoffs, when he got speared in the small of the back and missed a good part of the second half. GS running the option put up over 40 on Oregon State in 1999, 28 on UGA in 2004, and was the only team to rush for over 300 yards against Alabama's NFL defense in 2011.

As for the lower levels of FBS being better than FCS, there ain't anybody in this conference that is better than NDSU's 2013 team, App in 2006, or GS in 1999.

GS's 2014 team ran the table in the 'belt and that team wasn't any better than the GS teams in 2012, 2011, 2004, 2002, 2001, 2000, 1999, 1998, 1989, 1988 or 1986.

Not accurate on Peterson. App St stopped the streak. They sold out to stop AP and JR Revere had a great day running the ball with all the focus on Peterson. And we won at the rock.

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Correct I was at the game they were more worried about stopping AP in the second half then winning the game. JR could have had a record setting day the moment AP was in danger of not getting 100 had we known they were playing for a moral victory towards the end. The rest of his career he had some injuries turf toe in particular.

He ran all over every BCS/P5 team I remember. We know for a fact his stuttering kept him out of DIV 1A and his character kept at GS all four years when team tried to come get him after his freshmen year. I have never witnessed first hand a better college football player in my life. I know the Tebows of the world played at a much higher level but they also had much higher talent playing with them not to mention all the other things that makes lifer easier at BCS/P5 schools. We did not throw either. You knew it was going to be a run you knew it was going to AP and teams could do nothing to stop him. Not many players you can say that about.

I love to hate the flex, mostly because being an App fan and watching us play GS and try to stop it ruined my enjoyment of it. The idea that it is never going to be successful at the FBS level just isn't true in my opinion. Look at Georgia Tech. With the right couple of backs and a great QB it is as effective as anything else.

It's infuriating to watch the dive back fall forward for 3.5 yards and go down the field picking up 4th and shorts on a regular basis. But I can't deny the effectiveness, and when one assignment looks inside for a second, it's a touchdown. The best defense against the flex is an early lead, or hope they put it on the ground for you.

I hate the Eagles as much as any self respecting App fan, but when it is working and those a holes from south Georgia have the horses, it's something else to watch.

(10-19-2017 10:54 AM)Scrotumus Wrote:  

(10-18-2017 08:49 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  

(10-18-2017 03:54 PM)Scrotumus Wrote:  

(10-17-2017 04:59 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  

(10-17-2017 12:10 PM)panama Wrote:  Wasnt that all in FCS?

Southern was in the FCS yes, but we played FBS programs while AP was here.
And he still put up monster numbers against those P5 (BCS) defenses .... and all while running behind an FCS line.

It stands to reason that if we could do as well as we did against P5 defenses (which nearly all we could get to play us) with only FCS recruiting, then we should be better with FBS recruiting, at the very lest... just as good.

Peterson broke 100 yards in every FBS or 1-AA playoff he played in until his last game against Furman in the 2001 playoffs, when he got speared in the small of the back and missed a good part of the second half. GS running the option put up over 40 on Oregon State in 1999, 28 on UGA in 2004, and was the only team to rush for over 300 yards against Alabama's NFL defense in 2011.

As for the lower levels of FBS being better than FCS, there ain't anybody in this conference that is better than NDSU's 2013 team, App in 2006, or GS in 1999.

GS's 2014 team ran the table in the 'belt and that team wasn't any better than the GS teams in 2012, 2011, 2004, 2002, 2001, 2000, 1999, 1998, 1989, 1988 or 1986.

Not accurate on Peterson. App St stopped the streak. They sold out to stop AP and JR Revere had a great day running the ball with all the focus on Peterson. And we won at the rock.

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SB, read it again very closely, "Peterson broke 100 yards in every FBS or 1-AA playoff he played in until his last game against Furman in the 2001 playoffs..."

Oops, sorry about that.

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Time to talk.