(10-15-2017 09:34 AM)bridgeforthduke Wrote:  I'm not sure how I feel about the student club. It's a cool idea but I worry it will keep students away in the club the whole time and not watching the game.

In my opinion, it should only be made available to those students who give to the Duke Club. That group should be our best rooters among the students and not want to miss the action.

(10-15-2017 08:58 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Yes, this rendering has eliminated most of the wasted space behind the basket.

We Still have the gold seats and the JMU wall to get rid of. I wonder who has the ear of Moseley Architects? Is it Bourne for pre-design concepts?

If my understanding is correct, Moseley is not the designer, Populous is. Moseley will be the on-site architectural supervisors representing the Populous design during the build.

I haven't heard of Populous before. The google machine shows they have been involved with large arena projects, but not with small ones. Does anyone have insight?
I hope they have the ability to maximize revenue with club seats and suites while also maximizing home court advantage with students near the court.

Who know if the latest rendering means anything, but it is closed off the viewing area from the concourse where people aren't tempted to stand and watch the game vs being at their seats.
There appears to a box on either side of the club section, but I don't see any suites.

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(10-15-2017 12:35 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  I haven't heard of Populous before. The google machine shows they have been involved with large arena projects, but not with small ones. Does anyone have insight?
I hope they have the ability to maximize revenue with club seats and suites while also maximizing home court advantage with students near the court.

Who know if the latest rendering means anything, but it is closed off the viewing area from the concourse where people aren't tempted to stand and watch the game vs being at their seats.
There appears to a box on either side of the club section, but I don't see any suites.

Being perfectly honest, I've always thought the best seats for a basketball game start about a dozen rows up and continues up another dozen or so. Students and young people tend to stand a lot and react to others, when one of their own sees something happen then they all act as if they saw it and start screaming. Sort or a follow the leader mentality. When down low I think this happens a lot.

I had the opportunity to sit court-side right behind the players at an NBA game back when Jordan was in his prime in a game in Charlotte against the Hornets. While it was neat to do once, don't care to be down there all the time, but can definitely see students getting into it.

(10-15-2017 12:35 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  I haven't heard of Populous before. The google machine shows they have been involved with large arena projects, but not with small ones. Does anyone have insight?
I hope they have the ability to maximize revenue with club seats and suites while also maximizing home court advantage with students near the court.

Who know if the latest rendering means anything, but it is closed off the viewing area from the concourse where people aren't tempted to stand and watch the game vs being at their seats.
There appears to a box on either side of the club section, but I don't see any suites.

Populous is basically an offshoot of HOK. HOK sport was a subset of the larger international firm consisting of about 200 architects, and these architects move about pretty freely. My brother is/was a member of the club. The size of the JMU arena is not an issue for Populous. They're one of about three firms you'd want to have designing the place.

(10-15-2017 03:33 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(10-15-2017 12:35 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  I haven't heard of Populous before. The google machine shows they have been involved with large arena projects, but not with small ones. Does anyone have insight?
I hope they have the ability to maximize revenue with club seats and suites while also maximizing home court advantage with students near the court.

Who know if the latest rendering means anything, but it is closed off the viewing area from the concourse where people aren't tempted to stand and watch the game vs being at their seats.
There appears to a box on either side of the club section, but I don't see any suites.

Populous is basically an offshoot of HOK. HOK sport was a subset of the larger international firm consisting of about 200 architects, and these architects move about pretty freely. My brother is/was a member of the club. The size of the JMU arena is not an issue for Populous. They're one of about three firms you'd want to have designing the place.

Worked with HOK for our new office in philly. If the arena is anywhere near the success of our office we will all really love the arena.

Populous is based in KC and their offices are stones throw from my house. Funny story, we bought their former office Furniture for our new offices in KC. They have awesome office space on the plaza in KC and a ton of cool projects they are working on.

The Butcher is now the point person for all necessary adjustments to the conceptual drawings.
We will submit them to you and then you walk down the street and knock on their door.
Deal?
You can be the spokesman for JMU Nation.

Let’s start with no Wall above the club seats.
After you get that fixed, let’s go with no gold seats.

That wall visually looks like we were trying to reduce seating by a few thousand.

While I get that they might be able to do something more elegant in the club level (skylight, etc), it really does detract from an otherwise elegant design.

Hopefully that means they at least have a future “expansion” option there when we are successful and have sellouts 10 years from now.

For point of comparison:

Union Bank is paying us $2.25m for 10 years
SECU paid Towson $4.75m for 10 years
Eagle Bank paid Mason $6.6m for 10 years

I realize these two are in larger markets but it looks like Union Bank got a really good deal.

(10-15-2017 05:47 PM)White Hall Wrote:  For point of comparison:

Union Bank is paying us $2.25m for 10 years
SECU paid Towson $4.75m for 10 years
Eagle Bank paid Mason $6.6m for 10 years

I realize these two are in larger markets but it looks like Union Bank got a really good deal.

Perhaps. I was hoping JMU would attract a partner in the $4-5 million range, however, market size is everything when it comes to advertising dollars.

Vastly different markets... lookim forward to the.construction cam! (And indoor practice facility)

Cash register sound whenever JMU hits a 3?

(10-15-2017 02:24 PM)Pitz Wrote:  The Vault

Oh yea, I like this one. If we can get get HCLR and the basketball team to get hyped like HCMH does with football we could LOCK THE DAMN VAULT.

(10-15-2017 08:58 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Yes, this rendering has eliminated most of the wasted space behind the basket.

We Still have the gold seats and the JMU wall to get rid of. I wonder who has the ear of Moseley Architects? Is it Bourne for pre-design concepts?

I actually like the new rendering much better of those gold seats with the natural light coming in instead of just the original solid gold wall/club area as it was before. I also looks like (obviously I didn't count the seats) that there is more seating in the new renderings, getting rid of the tunnels in each corner and only having them in two. Also looks like more upper-deck seating.

from unionbankandtrustcenter.com

they have done something different...the original renderings had about 8 rows of chairs on the floor behind the nets

also, not sure they will get away with those chairs IN the stairway there :) (right of the gold seats)

(10-16-2017 10:06 AM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  they have done something different...the original renderings had about 8 rows of chairs on the floor behind the nets

also, not sure they will get away with those chairs IN the stairway there :) (right of the gold seats)

It's just a rendering, so we can't make too much of what we're looking at, but are you sure those are chairs? It looks like it just might be a railing of some sort to keep the riffraff out of the gold seats.

it's just a rendering? get OUTTA here

look to the right of the riff-raff railing...

this stadium is gonna be awesome, as the refinements come in should get better (unless VE takes over too much). should be cool to see the UB&T branding on their as well... and curious how they will do the floor, maybe another fan competition?