(10-12-2017 08:04 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote: (10-12-2017 07:44 AM)cmett003 Wrote: (10-11-2017 06:57 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote: I went to a couple citizen listening sessions and made my point clear that the best way to make this successful is by going up the west side of the city. Its where all the citizens that would use light rail routinely live. So I hope that's what they pick. But I dont expect it.
I hope there would be some kind of vote on this. Make no sense to bypass ODU especially when a new stadium is being built, students already complain about parking enough and there is not much land to build more parking. Also Hampton Blvd could use more development too.
Their goal isnt to make parking better at ODU. It's to get to the Naval base as cheaply as possible while allowing for the most revenue growth in property taxes. The east side route will also allow them to avoid having to buy a lot of property from citizens and deal with civic league blowback (Larchmont and Edgewater mainly).
As a west side homeowner, I hope either of the west side routes get selected. But everything points to the opposite.
The biggest development opportunity on the west side route is park place. I'm just not sure that is enough.
The property tax argument is invalid because property taxes will go up no matter where it ends up. If property value goes up 10% on a 600k house in Larchmont that is more money for the city than if it goes up 10% on a 100k house off of military highway.
Im not saying their goal is to help parking at ODU but you can kill 2 birds with one stone. The traffic issue from the naval base wont be alleviated by the western route bc if im coming from the navy base and I want to go downtown or vice versa, im not going to take some western route that could take me way out of the way and could be 30-45 min. Im going to drive or Uber the 10-15 min route down Hampton Blvd.
The light rail needs to be where the most people will use it and will be convenient for a large number of people. That means what ever the most walkable areas are, meaning Ghent, ODU and Larchmont. As Ever said "recreational". Because to use the light rail you literally have to walk on to the train. Why do you think they are extending the light rail in Charlotte to UNCC, when there are tons of other area that need development, because they knew college kids would use it to get downtown.
I see it here in Charlotte, people that use the light rail mainly are people that work uptown (downtown) because parking is expensive as hell. Development spurred along the light rail because developers put high end apartments right on the light rail near uptown (which was an industrial area, not necessarily a bad area or the hood) and people came because it was a cool area and they could live on the light rail (stations are literally right next to the apartments) and take the light rail to their uptown banker jobs. Further down in the not so nice areas. Development is still struggling 10+ years later. At the end of the rail is the park and rides which are nice because you can park your car in the garage or lot and take the light rail to a football, baseball or basketball game. But with the coming of Uber and Lyft. People dont take the light rail unless its convenient to do so, otherwise they will just take an Uber. The light rail can be a pain to use and so only certain people will take it for certain things. ODU, ghent, Larchmont, and the naval base will use the light rail. If someone build a nice apartment on military hwy there is no way im living out there even if there is a light rail. The city has an unrealistic vision of what will happen development wise.
Not to mention I think the ODU route would be cheaper because its a shorter distance to the navy base.