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RE: Week 6 Ratings
(10-09-2017 10:40 AM)Grandgreen Wrote:  12. Charlotte (14) - Made Marshall game interesting

If Led Zepplin got back together and did the halftime show that game still wouldn't have been interesting.
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If Marshall or Western all of a sudden start clicking on offense with in the next couple weeks....the east belongs to that team. Today I think its a long long long shot for that to happen for Western. Marshall fans don't seem to feel any more confident in their offense.

If Middle gets their players back next week and gets by UAB they are still in the mix. FAU is a team that seems to be playing on confidence and that can take you to the top. But a slip up and I could see a couple losses over the next 4 weeks.

UNT so far looks to have the offense to out score FAU
@Western offense looks dead so unless something clicks I don't know if we can score enough points to beat anyone
Marshall offensive problems
@Tech still a month to get to where they need to be. Tech plays a lot better at home.

As for the west...I don't care which team comes out of it
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(10-09-2017 11:16 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  If Marshall or Western all of a sudden start clicking on offense with in the next couple weeks....the east belongs to that team. Today I think its a long long long shot for that to happen for Western. Marshall fans don't seem to feel any more confident in their offense.

We aren't. Our offense (read Bill Legg) is so damned bipolar. One game, we will put up relatively big numbers (Cincy and NC State), then we lay an egg.

It seemed as though something was up with Litton. He had a pretty crap night. Threw almost everything high.
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The truth is that there are no good football teams in this conference this year. There are teams that have good parts, but nobody is solid in all three phases, let alone good in all three. I do think we have teams that are capable of having really good games, but no one is consistent. Someone may end up running the table from here, but I still wouldn't be convinced that they are a good team because wins are just as likely due to opponents weakness as your ability. Our Charlotte game was a good example of that. We played horribly on offense. If we had played any of 7 or 8 other teams Saturday and played the exact same way we would have lost. However, we still may beat FAU because our offense happens to click that game.

It's not like the last 3-4 years when you knew you were just all around better or worse than certain teams. A lot more parity, not because the bottom teams got better, but because the better teams have gotten worse. A few teams have shown some improvement, but the OOC results show it wasn't really much.
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I have Marshall as number one also
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(10-09-2017 11:16 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  If Marshall or Western all of a sudden start clicking on offense with in the next couple weeks....the east belongs to that team. Today I think its a long long long shot for that to happen for Western. Marshall fans don't seem to feel any more confident in their offense.

If Middle gets their players back next week and gets by UAB they are still in the mix. FAU is a team that seems to be playing on confidence and that can take you to the top. But a slip up and I could see a couple losses over the next 4 weeks.

UNT so far looks to have the offense to out score FAU
@Western offense looks dead so unless something clicks I don't know if we can score enough points to beat anyone
Marshall offensive problems
@Tech still a month to get to where they need to be. Tech plays a lot better at home.

As for the west...I don't care which team comes out of it

Underrated matchup will be Marshall's defense against FAU's offense.
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(10-09-2017 12:08 PM)banker Wrote:  I still wouldn't be convinced that they are a good team because wins are just as likely due to opponents weakness as your ability.

Isn't this true of all of Alabama and Clemson's wins the past three years too?
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(10-09-2017 10:21 AM)Luckyshot Wrote:  2. Marshall Close win over Charlotte keeps them out of top spot.

The score may look close but the game wasn't at all. Charlotte only crossed the 50 yard line 4 times and 2 of those was only to the 45. Charlotte only had 9 1st downs and 212 yards total. Also the time of possession was Marshall 36:37 Charlotte 23:23. Charlotte made it to the redzone once a 26 yard FG and to the 31 once a 48 yard FG tipped and missed.
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(10-08-2017 10:13 AM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  
(10-08-2017 10:12 AM)Cardiff Wrote:  1. Marshall — it’s been a long time since I could honestly put the Herd in the top slot. There’s plenty of time for us to screw up, but at least for now...
2. FAU, UNT, USM, UTSA — four car pileup for 2nd place
6. LT — most schizo team in the league.
7. MTSU — still not sure what to make of them
8. UAB — did Blazer football really sit on the shelf for 1,000 days? I’m starting to think I just imagined that
9. Toppers beat UTEP by 1 point. Congrats... I guess.
10. ODU — smacked down hard by Florida Atlantic. Ouch.
11. FIU — the easy wins are now past. Painful losses dead ahead.
12. Rice — the nightmare continues
13. UTEP — A slight pulse detected...
14. UNCC — a huge leap backwards since last year. Judy must be so proud

WKU is not 9th.........12th at best, we are that bad

Did you see ODU? I've never seen a D consistently give up 3rd and 10, 3rd and 11, even 3rd and 16 on running plays. That was scary bad.
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(10-09-2017 02:17 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  Conference USA Power Rankings Week 6

Fair enough for now. FAU may be higher in the end, there's honestly a bunch of teams all bunched together so it's hard to rank and some that may deserve to be higher get pushed down the line. Time will tell though.
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Yes, any way you look at it, the top 6-7 teams all have a case at being ranked at the top of the conference after 6 weeks.
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RE: Week 6 Ratings
Here's my list:

1. North Texas, 2-0 in conf. and no bad losses...
2. FAU/Marshall, both undefeated in conf. play and on 2/3 game win streaks...
4. USM, 1-1 in conf. play, no bad losses and conf. win over good team in UTSA...
5. UTSA, 0-1 in conf. but still a good team who I predict beats UNT this week...
6. UAB, THIS close to being 2-0 in conf. play...
7. La Tech, better than WKU but not better than UAB obviously...
8. WKU, THIS close to being 2-0 or 0-2 in conf. play...
9. MTSU, QB still hurt...it'd be a miracle if they could go bowling...
10. ODU/FIU - neither team has beaten a decent football team this year...
12. Rice - terrible...but hey, they did beat UTEP so there's that...
13. Charlotte - a bad team with bad losses to other bad teams...yikes...
14. UTEP - a blow out loss to the 3rd worst team in CUSA (Rice) at HOME nonetheless is the reason why UTEP is last...
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RE: Week 6 Ratings
Here's my attempt at ranking C-USA teams. I am using 6 different randomly selected statistic categories (PO - pass offense YPG, RO - run offense YPG, PS - points scored, PA - points allowed, PD - pass defense YPG, RD - run defense YPG) to produce a rating for each C-USA team, on basis of which I rank them. This ranking is absolutely non-authoritative, but, since I am the smartest, most modest, and overall nicest person in the world, everyone should just accept these as fact:
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#   Team     RATING ( PO  RO  PS  PA  PD  RD)
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1.  UTSA       27.5 ( 38  31  37  20   5  34)
2.  USM        49.2 ( 40  48  68  43  59  37)
3.  UNT        55.3 ( 25  28  21 107 112  39)
4.  Marshall   61.0 ( 59  96  97  18  59  37)
5.  FAU        61.8 (108  15  42  62  31 113)
6.  UAB        62.8 ( 96  37  47  88  24  85)
7.  MTSU       69.7 ( 49 112 114  58  51  34)
8.  WKU        70.0 ( 54 129 112  27  67  31)
9.  LaTech     70.2 ( 48  80  80  72  62  79)
10. FIU        88.0 ( 66  92 119  85  86  80)
11. Charlotte  96.0 (124  57 124  93  81  97)
12. ODU        96.5 (114  88  98 110  53 116)
13. Rice      103.3 (121  73 130 113 102  81)
14. UTEP      115.2 (123 124 127 123  75 119)

P.S. The lower the rating is the higher the team is ranked.
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1. North Texas (4)
Didn't play last week ... but UTSA lost to USM which was coming off a loss to North Texas ... Louisiana Tech lost to UAB ... Marshall won, but didn't set the world on fire in the process ... TCU and South Florida aren't in the conference anymore ... carry the seven ... Congratulations, Mean Green, you're the top team in CUSA!

2. Marshall (3)
A lot of people were expecting a much more comprehensive beatdown of the Niners, but it's CUSA: Expect the Unexpected, Unless The Unexpected Is Something Really Good Like a Media Contract Where Macedonian Fake News Producers Don't Have Second-Tier Rights. The Herd have been consistently producing and that's worth something in this topsy-turvy world of ours.

3. Florida Atlantic (5)
It's a nice turnaround for the Owls from getting smacked around by Navy to tearing apart ODU in the shadow of the world's largest Navy base. There's a joke about seamen to be had here, but I am far too classy to stoop to such levels. *snicker* ... seamen ...

4. Southern Miss (7)
Southern Miss has made a mess of the West. A Southern Mess, if you will. By beating then-unbeaten UTSA at their place, they've ensured that a) no CUSA team will get the NY6 bowl spot and b) the division standings might as well be determined by a Lotto popper.

5. UTSA (1)
A hard-fought and exciting game between two good teams. The Roadrunners could have firmed up control of the West, but it's OK because Rule One of West Division Fight Club is Don't be Rice or UTEP.

6. Louisiana Tech (2)
The Bulldogs lost to UAB ... I'm sorry, it's been 48 hours and I'm still wrapping my head around that one.

7. UAB (9)
And before anyone asks, the Blazers are not ahead of La. Tech because I take the whole season into account, so while it was undoubtedly a great win for a program that deserves nothing but great after all the crap they've dealt with, I still think the Bulldogs are (as of now) better. Boring explanation done with, I offer this as a peace offering.
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Way to take it to those thatch-roofed cottages!

8. Middle Tennessee (8)
Delay the end of the world a week, the Blue Raiders handled FIU. Though suddenly that UAB game is looking pretty intriguing.

9. Western Kentucky (6)
Sure, they won, but in a decidedly unimpressive way against a decidedly unimpressive foe. If this keeps up, they'll be seeing red — and not just that Grimace-Elmo love child they call a mascot.

10. Old Dominion (10)
Didja see how the Florida Gators paid tribute to native son Tom Petty by singing "I Won't Back Down" before the fourth quarter? There's no organized effort at ODU, but a bunch of us have been singing "Free Falling" independently these days.

11. FIU (11)
The other cleat dropping? There aren't any easy wins on the schedule going forward. Though beating Tulane would be a nice F(I)U to the P6 Players.

12. Rice (12)
The Owls still have a win. But the chances of finding a playmate for it are growing dim.

13. Charlotte and UTEP (13/14)
You can probably make an argument for one being better than the other, but even after surprisingly competitive losses, they're both still winless and will almost certainly be stricken from the rolls of bowl-eligibility contenders next week. Too bad they don't play each other. They could stream it on Friendster.
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RE: Week 6 Ratings
(10-09-2017 04:11 PM)TTT Wrote:  Here's my list:

1. North Texas, 2-0 in conf. and no bad losses...
2. FAU/Marshall, both undefeated in conf. play and on 2/3 game win streaks...
4. USM, 1-1 in conf. play, no bad losses and conf. win over good team in UTSA...
5. UTSA, 0-1 in conf. but still a good team who I predict beats UNT this week...
6. UAB, THIS close to being 2-0 in conf. play...
7. La Tech, better than WKU but not better than UAB obviously...
8. WKU, THIS close to being 2-0 or 0-2 in conf. play...
9. MTSU, QB still hurt...it'd be a miracle if they could go bowling...
10. ODU/FIU - neither team has beaten a decent football team this year...
12. Rice - terrible...but hey, they did beat UTEP so there's that...
13. Charlotte - a bad team with bad losses to other bad teams...yikes...
14. UTEP - a blow out loss to the 3rd worst team in CUSA (Rice) at HOME nonetheless is the reason why UTEP is last...

Think I'd push MT above WKU and maybe LT otherwise looks right
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Marshall had two turnovers that cut drives short. That and the fact Doc was not gonna stay on the gas against a former MU coach and several former MU players on the 49'ner staff. We basically shut it down in Q4.
I don't agree with that thinking but it's over and done. We'll see how we do against ODU. That said, don't think we are the top team at this point.
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(10-09-2017 06:16 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  Marshall had two turnovers that cut drives short. That and the fact Doc was not gonna stay on the gas against a former MU coach and several former MU players on the 49'ner staff. We basically shut it down in Q4.
I don't agree with that thinking but it's over and done. We'll see how we do against ODU. That said, don't think we are the top team at this point.

Are we #1 *Shrugs* a case could be made either way, we are the only CUSA team with 4 wins so far. And you are right, Doc wasn't going to embarrass Brad Lambert (coached at Marshall under Jim Donnan), Greg Adtkins (played at Marshall and coached at Marshall) and even Jim Durning (played at Marshall, one of 3 captains on the 1992 National Championship team, the other two was Michael Payton and some guy by the name of Troy Brown).

We did have 2 TDs taken away, One was clearly a catch by Ryan Yurachek. Yurachek rolled twice while out of bounds. How they said he didn't complete the catch is beyond me.
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(10-09-2017 02:13 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  Did you see ODU? I've never seen a D consistently give up 3rd and 10, 3rd and 11, even 3rd and 16 on running plays. That was scary bad.

We've seen it time and time again at MT -- until this year.

Teams rarely punted against us the last couple of years with ex-DC Tyrone Nix.
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(10-09-2017 04:25 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  Here's my attempt at ranking C-USA teams. I am using 6 different randomly selected statistic categories (PO - pass offense YPG, RO - run offense YPG, PS - points scored, PA - points allowed, PD - pass defense YPG, RD - run defense YPG) to produce a rating for each C-USA team, on basis of which I rank them. This ranking is absolutely non-authoritative, but, since I am the smartest, most modest, and overall nicest person in the world, everyone should just accept these as fact:
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#   Team     RATING ( PO  RO  PS  PA  PD  RD)
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1.  UTSA       27.5 ( 38  31  37  20   5  34)
2.  USM        49.2 ( 40  48  68  43  59  37)
3.  UNT        55.3 ( 25  28  21 107 112  39)
4.  Marshall   61.0 ( 59  96  97  18  59  37)
5.  FAU        61.8 (108  15  42  62  31 113)
6.  UAB        62.8 ( 96  37  47  88  24  85)
7.  MTSU       69.7 ( 49 112 114  58  51  34)
8.  WKU        70.0 ( 54 129 112  27  67  31)
9.  LaTech     70.2 ( 48  80  80  72  62  79)
10. FIU        88.0 ( 66  92 119  85  86  80)
11. Charlotte  96.0 (124  57 124  93  81  97)
12. ODU        96.5 (114  88  98 110  53 116)
13. Rice      103.3 (121  73 130 113 102  81)
14. UTEP      115.2 (123 124 127 123  75 119)

P.S. The lower the rating is the higher the team is ranked.

So, if a team beats you, you get to be ranked higher.... What a great formula. 01-wingedeagle

I'll stick to watching them play, and using the eyeball test.
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