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RE: G5 Conference Rankings?
(10-07-2017 06:08 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  Navy losing to AF and Hawaii makes a point for the MW.


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RE: G5 Conference Rankings?
AAC
MWC
MAC
SBC
CUSA

Really no different than most years apart from CUSA having a down year.
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RE: G5 Conference Rankings?
AAC - really a separate category. 2 in top 25 and Navy is close too.




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MWC. - only good team is SDSU
MAC- some decent teams but not one to really stand out. Top to bottom better than the mwc
C-USA - they have at least 6 teams that are good awful. About 2-3 with a slight pulse.
Sunbelt - pretty much equal to c-usa.
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RE: G5 Conference Rankings?
3 AAC teams in the new coaches poll (USF 15, UCF 21, Navy 24) with Memphis receiving votes too.
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RE: G5 Conference Rankings?
(10-07-2017 11:12 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(10-07-2017 10:45 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  
(10-07-2017 10:06 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  To be fair, it's more like this:

1) AAC (2 teams ranked in the Top 25)
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2) MW
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3) CUSA
4) MAC
5) SBC

There is a HUGE gap...qualitatively...right now between the AAC and all the other "g" conferences.
Aresco when he became AAC commish said the conference was particularily hopeful on the potential of the Florida schools. This year they are both in the Top 25.

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For now. There is still a lot of football left to play. I believe both are perfectly capable of losing before then end of the season. I honestly think San Diego State is more likely to finish undefeated, and get the access bowl.

Do you think or do you want? San Diego State has honestly not look too good aside from that Stanford game. And that was a little questionable in my opinion because Stanford is very one-dimensional. They are great at what they do however, if you come in with a good game plan against them you can beat them.

UCF has demolished every team they have played.
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RE: G5 Conference Rankings?
AAC now with 3 teams in Coaches poll.

#15 USF
#21 UCF
#24 Navy
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AAC has three in the AP wow......
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AAC also with 3 teams in AP poll.
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RE: G5 Conference Rankings?
After 6 weeks, and updated stats, I still see it like this...

1. AAC- 7 teams with winning records (3 undefeated), plus 3 ranked teams (USF, UCF, & Navy), 1 team at .500, and 4 teams with losing records

2. MWC- 6 teams with winning records (1 undefeated), plus 1 ranked team (SDSU), 1 teams at .500, and 5 teams with losing records

3. C-USA- 7 teams with winning records, 3 teams at .500, and 4 teams with losing records

4. MAC- 4 teams with winning records, 3 teams at .500, and 5 teams with losing records

5. Sun Belt- 3 team with a winning record, 2 teams at .500, and 7 teams with losing records

Thoughts?
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RE: G5 Conference Rankings?
Our yard markers say p6

Our goal posts say p6

Our helmets say p6

There are10 conferences, so i'm confused. What's a g5?
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(10-08-2017 04:38 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Our yard markers say p6

Our goal posts say p6

Our helmets say p6

There are10 conferences, so i'm confused. What's a g5?

I can say that I'm a billionaire married to Amber Heard and photoshop photos of us during our honeymoon on my yacht, but that doesn't make it so.
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(10-08-2017 05:43 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  
(10-08-2017 04:38 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Our yard markers say p6

Our goal posts say p6

Our helmets say p6

There are10 conferences, so i'm confused. What's a g5?

I can say that I'm a billionaire married to Amber Heard and photoshop photos of us during our honeymoon on my yacht, but that doesn't make it so.

Keep telling that to yourself. The coaches and AP sure are giving us the P6 treatment when compared to G4 teams undefeated and those with one loss. What you fail to realize, actually all the G4 fanboys fail to realize, is that this is all done for perception. You all refuse to quit playing checkers while Aresco plays chess.
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(10-08-2017 04:38 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Our yard markers say p6

Our goal posts say p6

Our helmets say p6

There are10 conferences, so i'm confused. What's a g5?

I must say that I'm confused as well. I would have thought that, if one of the NY6 bowls had decided to break from the CFP and ask the AAC to host its New Year's bowl every year, it would have gotten more publicity in the sporting press. That is big news. When did it happen?
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(10-08-2017 06:27 PM)otown Wrote:  
(10-08-2017 05:43 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  
(10-08-2017 04:38 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Our yard markers say p6

Our goal posts say p6

Our helmets say p6

There are10 conferences, so i'm confused. What's a g5?

I can say that I'm a billionaire married to Amber Heard and photoshop photos of us during our honeymoon on my yacht, but that doesn't make it so.

Keep telling that to yourself. The coaches and AP sure are giving us the P6 treatment when compared to G4 teams undefeated and those with one loss. What you fail to realize, actually all the G4 fanboys fail to realize, is that this is all done for perception. You all refuse to quit playing checkers while Aresco plays chess.

Oh yeah, San Diego State is being treated so poorly in the polls. I mean the AP has them exactly one spot behind South Florida?!! Clearly the AP think much more highly of the AAC then the MWC. Please....

The AAC won't finish the season with 3 ranked teams. Enjoy it while you can. 07-coffee3
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(10-08-2017 08:10 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(10-08-2017 06:27 PM)otown Wrote:  
(10-08-2017 05:43 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  
(10-08-2017 04:38 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Our yard markers say p6

Our goal posts say p6

Our helmets say p6

There are10 conferences, so i'm confused. What's a g5?

I can say that I'm a billionaire married to Amber Heard and photoshop photos of us during our honeymoon on my yacht, but that doesn't make it so.

Keep telling that to yourself. The coaches and AP sure are giving us the P6 treatment when compared to G4 teams undefeated and those with one loss. What you fail to realize, actually all the G4 fanboys fail to realize, is that this is all done for perception. You all refuse to quit playing checkers while Aresco plays chess.

Oh yeah, San Diego State is being treated so poorly in the polls. I mean the AP has them exactly one spot behind South Florida?!! Clearly the AP think much more highly of the AAC then the MWC. Please....

The AAC won't finish the season with 3 ranked teams. Enjoy it while you can. 07-coffee3

Go lurk on the SDSU message boards and you will be amazed at the similar sentiment they feel about the bias. USF has had the weaker OOC schedule to date, and they get the benefit. UCF unranked to start the season, while having one less game, and closing in fast on SDSU.
Now, I must say that all these rankings are crap since CFP is all that matters. If UCF continues dropping 60 plus points on people, including clobbering a potential top 25 team in Navy, it would not surprise me one bit to see the first CFP poll have UCF in front of USF and SDSU.
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3 teams in the top 25. P6...next topic?
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(10-08-2017 08:58 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  3 teams in the top 25. P6...next topic?

Every P5 conference has their traditional blue bloods - Alabama in the SEC, USC in the Pac, OU and UT in the Big 12, OSU and Michigan in the Big Ten, FSU in the ACC (and that's a narrow list). Who in the AAC is equal with them? You'll find very few who doubt the AAC is the best G5 football conference or that some of your programs would fit well in a P5, but you're just not there overall, your best teams are nowhere near the attendance and revenue of the big boys and the same goes for the bottom feeders. People would laugh at me if I went down the road in Tampa and argued that UCF and USF were in a conference that's a peer with the ACC and SEC, it's pitiful to see what this has turned into.

As for the argument that this is for turning perception into reality down the road with this marketing, I don't buy it. You really think the cartel will give you a seat at the table? They hold all the cards, and if they ever seriously consider you a threat they'll just poach your best schools so you turn into the old C-USA again.
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(10-08-2017 09:22 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  
(10-08-2017 08:58 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  3 teams in the top 25. P6...next topic?

Every P5 conference has their traditional blue bloods - Alabama in the SEC, USC in the Pac, OU and UT in the Big 12, OSU and Michigan in the Big Ten, FSU in the ACC (and that's a narrow list). Who in the AAC is equal with them? You'll find very few who doubt the AAC is the best G5 football conference or that some of your programs would fit well in a P5, but you're just not there overall, your best teams are nowhere near the attendance and revenue of the big boys and the same goes for the bottom feeders. People would laugh at me if I went down the road in Tampa and argued that UCF and USF were in a conference that's a peer with the ACC and SEC, it's pitiful to see what this has turned into.

As for the argument that this is for turning perception into reality down the road with this marketing, I don't buy it. You really think the cartel will give you a seat at the table? They hold all the cards, and if they ever seriously consider you a threat they'll just poach your best schools so you turn into the old C-USA again.

Maybe so. But a lot of that is perception based. Drop USF or UCF in the ACC and they are annually going .500 or above, and in years such as this one, are challenging for division crowns.

For example, USF went 8-2 all time versus Syracuse, and played basically .500 ball vs. Louisville, including routing Louisville on a few occasions. Those programs didn't have any problems adjusting to ACC play.
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(10-08-2017 08:10 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(10-08-2017 06:27 PM)otown Wrote:  
(10-08-2017 05:43 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  
(10-08-2017 04:38 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Our yard markers say p6

Our goal posts say p6

Our helmets say p6

There are10 conferences, so i'm confused. What's a g5?

I can say that I'm a billionaire married to Amber Heard and photoshop photos of us during our honeymoon on my yacht, but that doesn't make it so.

Keep telling that to yourself. The coaches and AP sure are giving us the P6 treatment when compared to G4 teams undefeated and those with one loss. What you fail to realize, actually all the G4 fanboys fail to realize, is that this is all done for perception. You all refuse to quit playing checkers while Aresco plays chess.

Oh yeah, San Diego State is being treated so poorly in the polls. I mean the AP has them exactly one spot behind South Florida?!! Clearly the AP think much more highly of the AAC then the MWC. Please....

The AAC won't finish the season with 3 ranked teams. Enjoy it while you can. 07-coffee3

The coaches are seriously respecting the AAC over the others. USF is ranked #15 in the coaches poll and is way ahead of SDSU in vote points and ranking.
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(10-08-2017 08:58 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  3 teams in the top 25. P6...next topic?
Your confusion seems to be because it's a structural thing, not based on the ephemera of weekly pools.

5 conferences with contracted bowls for their champion if not in the CFP: P5.

5 conference with a 6th CFP share to split among themselves as the group agrees upon, with the best of their five champion schools guaranteed one Access Bowl spot: Go5.

"P6" can be plastered everywhere you happen to look, but it's an aspiration rather than achievement until you get a separate CFP share and a contract bowl in the CFP NY6.
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