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RE: Ferris "is not a state" Game 1
(10-06-2017 09:22 PM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  
(10-06-2017 08:23 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  The difference between NCHC talent & WCHA talent on display in this one.

"We should be in the..........

Never mind

Probably best you didn't finish your silly thought, as game two might have exposed that shallow mindedness just makes you look like a mor......

Ah, never mind.
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(10-08-2017 01:47 PM)brovol Wrote:  
(10-06-2017 09:22 PM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  
(10-06-2017 08:23 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  The difference between NCHC talent & WCHA talent on display in this one.

"We should be in the..........

Never mind

Probably best you didn't finish your silly thought, as game two might have exposed that shallow mindedness just makes you look like a mor......

Ah, never mind.

Probably best you don't take a victory lap on a Bronco loss hoping to win an argument you lost a long time ago.
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(10-08-2017 02:46 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  
(10-08-2017 01:47 PM)brovol Wrote:  
(10-06-2017 09:22 PM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  
(10-06-2017 08:23 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  The difference between NCHC talent & WCHA talent on display in this one.

"We should be in the..........

Never mind

Probably best you didn't finish your silly thought, as game two might have exposed that shallow mindedness just makes you look like a mor......

Ah, never mind.

Probably best you don't take a victory lap on a Bronco loss hoping to win an argument you lost a long time ago.
Not a victory lap. My team lost. If you pay a little attention you will see that I said nothing whatsoever and Charm sends his post, clearly in my direction, as if one game into the season he established that WCHA teams cannot compete on the same ice with NCHC teams like WMU. My post was a retort. If you care to discipline for cocky provicating post, do so with the village provocatier, not the guy who is responding to the sucker punch.

And the only way you can say I lost the "argument " is if you think it is a good thing for WMU to finish at or near the bottom of its conference three out of four years, with its best year finishing in third place out of eight. If that is a "win" for you brother, your standards are so low I wouldn't stoop so low as to engage you in an "argument ". But enjoy the glory.
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Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?
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(10-08-2017 07:30 PM)brovol Wrote:  
(10-08-2017 02:46 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  
(10-08-2017 01:47 PM)brovol Wrote:  
(10-06-2017 09:22 PM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  
(10-06-2017 08:23 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  The difference between NCHC talent & WCHA talent on display in this one.

"We should be in the..........

Never mind

Probably best you didn't finish your silly thought, as game two might have exposed that shallow mindedness just makes you look like a mor......

Ah, never mind.

Probably best you don't take a victory lap on a Bronco loss hoping to win an argument you lost a long time ago.
Not a victory lap. My team lost. If you pay a little attention you will see that I said nothing whatsoever and Charm sends his post, clearly in my direction, as if one game into the season he established that WCHA teams cannot compete on the same ice with NCHC teams like WMU. My post was a retort. If you care to discipline for cocky provicating post, do so with the village provocatier, not the guy who is responding to the sucker punch.

And the only way you can say I lost the "argument " is if you think it is a good thing for WMU to finish at or near the bottom of its conference three out of four years, with its best year finishing in third place out of eight. If that is a "win" for you brother, your standards are so low I wouldn't stoop so low as to engage you in an "argument ". But enjoy the glory.
My standard is better hockey. The Broncos clearly have better talent and play better hockey because they are in the best conference in college hockey. It attracts better recruits. We're still relatively early into this, but the freshmen who have entered the picture this year is just another sign of how strong this program is right now. We lost a lot of talent & experience this off-season.

Yes, it's much harder to finish high in the standings in the NCHC than the WCHA. Nobody can dispute that. I'd rather have Bronco hockey compete at a higher level, have the likes of Denver, Duluth, & North Dakota come to Lawson every year rather than drop down to a weaker conference and see inferior opponents. I'd rather be in hockey's SEC over the Sun Belt.

WMU + NCHC = win
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(10-09-2017 11:25 AM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  
(10-08-2017 07:30 PM)brovol Wrote:  
(10-08-2017 02:46 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  
(10-08-2017 01:47 PM)brovol Wrote:  
(10-06-2017 09:22 PM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  "We should be in the..........

Never mind

Probably best you didn't finish your silly thought, as game two might have exposed that shallow mindedness just makes you look like a mor......

Ah, never mind.

Probably best you don't take a victory lap on a Bronco loss hoping to win an argument you lost a long time ago.
Not a victory lap. My team lost. If you pay a little attention you will see that I said nothing whatsoever and Charm sends his post, clearly in my direction, as if one game into the season he established that WCHA teams cannot compete on the same ice with NCHC teams like WMU. My post was a retort. If you care to discipline for cocky provicating post, do so with the village provocatier, not the guy who is responding to the sucker punch.

And the only way you can say I lost the "argument " is if you think it is a good thing for WMU to finish at or near the bottom of its conference three out of four years, with its best year finishing in third place out of eight. If that is a "win" for you brother, your standards are so low I wouldn't stoop so low as to engage you in an "argument ". But enjoy the glory.
My standard is better hockey. The Broncos clearly have better talent and play better hockey because they are in the best conference in college hockey. It attracts better recruits. We're still relatively early into this, but the freshmen who have entered the picture this year is just another sign of how strong this program is right now. We lost a lot of talent & experience this off-season.

Yes, it's much harder to finish high in the standings in the NCHC than the WCHA. Nobody can dispute that. I'd rather have Bronco hockey compete at a higher level, have the likes of Denver, Duluth, & North Dakota come to Lawson every year rather than drop down to a weaker conference and see inferior opponents. I'd rather be in hockey's SEC over the Sun Belt.

WMU + NCHC = win

Fair enough. I disagree that we have better talent now, and don't think that we will unless we are consistently at or near the top of our conference. That will always be tough in the NCHC. And while you would rather see ND, Denver and Duluth, most folks that come to Bronco hockey games would much rather see a lousy MSU or UM team play at Lawson, and while you and I know those nchc teams are much better hockey schools, to the average bronco fan Duluth is no more game worthy than Michigan Tech. Lastly, while I am the first to agree the NCHC is one of the best if not the best leagues in the country, there is relative parity in college hockey which doesn't exist in football. SEC schools in football generally will destroy Sun Belt schools when they play. Even the best team in the NCHC could lose to an Atlantic Conference or a WCHA team, and they do.

But regardless, we all want the same thing in a solid WMU hockey program that competes consistently for league titles and a chance to make a run in the NCAA tournament. If that happens in the NCHC I am delighted. If it doesn't, and if our hockey program becomes dormant, I will be disappointed,as I was for the first several years in this conference.
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(10-09-2017 08:03 PM)brovol Wrote:  Fair enough. I disagree that we have better talent now, and don't think that we will unless we are consistently at or near the top of our conference.

Compared to what? We outscored Ferris 2-to-1 over the weekend. Do you even watch new WCHA hockey? I love those schools but the quality of hockey is a step below WMU and the bottom half of the NCHC. Their offensive qualities are limited. The top two teams in the new WCHA are tournament quality, the next two are good, and the rest of the league is terrible.

Quote:That will always be tough in the NCHC. And while you would rather see ND, Denver and Duluth, most folks that come to Bronco hockey games would much rather see a lousy MSU or UM team play at Lawson, and while you and I know those nchc teams are much better hockey schools, to the average bronco fan Duluth is no more game worthy than Michigan Tech. Lastly, while I am the first to agree the NCHC is one of the best if not the best leagues in the country, there is relative parity in college hockey which doesn't exist in football. SEC schools in football generally will destroy Sun Belt schools when they play. Even the best team in the NCHC could lose to an Atlantic Conference or a WCHA team, and they do.

The fatal flaw in your logic is that you assume the new WCHA will get multi-bids. Haven't had them the last two seasons and Tech was the 16th seeded team in the tournament this year--behind AFA and Atlantic Hockey. Not a good trend for new WCHA optimists.

I continue to be amazed by your incredibly low standards for WMU hockey.
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Quote:But regardless, we all want the same thing in a solid WMU hockey program that competes consistently for league titles and a chance to make a run in the NCAA tournament. If that happens in the NCHC I am delighted. If it doesn't, and if our hockey program becomes dormant, I will be disappointed,as I was for the first several years in this conference.

You keep repeating that like it was awful from the get go. The first year WMU was 19-16-5, 11-11-2, more than competitive in pretty much every game, and were in the hunt for an at large for much of the year. Even had a good run in the NCHC playoffs to get the automatic.

The next two years went bad, until last year. That was a very good year by any standard with a coach who does things the right way. We'll be competing now I'm sure. Lawson has the potential to be the next Cameron Indoor of big time college hockey atmosphere wise as well.

You also can't gauge one game in hockey. On a given day, a team of amateurs could hang with a incredibly talented professional team. It's hockey, most know and have an appreciation for that fact. So your analogy really misses the mark and succeeds in making you look foolish.
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Lawson has been about 2/3 full most nights. You ever think that happens at a Duke hoops game?
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If the question is which league gives WMU a better chance at making the NCAA, you tell me, is it easier beating out four teams in the nchc, to finish in the top four there, or being in the top two, or even number one in the wcha? Do you all believe that WMU's program wouldn't be at or near the best in the wcha? If so, wouldn't we have been making the NCAA more than once in 4-5 years? And winning more games in the process.
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If NHL talent is what determines the quality of a college conference, then the Big Ten is a better conference than the NCHC, as the B10 had 35 NHL players last year, and the NCHC had 29. I dont think the B10 is a better league than the NCHC, but do you Charm?
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(10-10-2017 05:23 AM)brovol Wrote:  Lawson has been about 2/3 full most nights. You ever think that happens at a Duke hoops game?

As a high powered, urban probate/family court judge I would think you can grasp the meaning of "potential"
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(10-10-2017 07:23 AM)brovol Wrote:  If NHL talent is what determines the quality of a college conference, then the Big Ten is a better conference than the NCHC, as the B10 had 35 NHL players last year, and the NCHC had 29. I dont think the B10 is a better league than the NCHC, but do you Charm?

NCHC has 57 in the NHL.
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(10-10-2017 10:27 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 05:23 AM)brovol Wrote:  Lawson has been about 2/3 full most nights. You ever think that happens at a Duke hoops game?

As a high powered, urban probate/family court judge I would think you can grasp the meaning of "potential"

Hey DB, long time no see. Just not long enough.
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(10-10-2017 10:46 AM)brovol Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:27 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 05:23 AM)brovol Wrote:  Lawson has been about 2/3 full most nights. You ever think that happens at a Duke hoops game?

As a high powered, urban probate/family court judge I would think you can grasp the meaning of "potential"

Hey DB, long time no see. Just not long enough.

You still using state computers to troll broncos83 brovol?
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(10-10-2017 10:28 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 07:23 AM)brovol Wrote:  If NHL talent is what determines the quality of a college conference, then the Big Ten is a better conference than the NCHC, as the B10 had 35 NHL players last year, and the NCHC had 29. I dont think the B10 is a better league than the NCHC, but do you Charm?

NCHC has 57 in the NHL.

Not by what I read. Source? Not "drafted", but "playing" under NHL contract.
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(10-10-2017 10:48 AM)brovol Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:28 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 07:23 AM)brovol Wrote:  If NHL talent is what determines the quality of a college conference, then the Big Ten is a better conference than the NCHC, as the B10 had 35 NHL players last year, and the NCHC had 29. I dont think the B10 is a better league than the NCHC, but do you Charm?

NCHC has 57 in the NHL.

Not by what I read. Source? Not "drafted", but "playing" under NHL contract.

NCHC Website, broncos83, er, brovol.
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(10-10-2017 10:47 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:46 AM)brovol Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:27 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 05:23 AM)brovol Wrote:  Lawson has been about 2/3 full most nights. You ever think that happens at a Duke hoops game?

As a high powered, urban probate/family court judge I would think you can grasp the meaning of "potential"

Hey DB, long time no see. Just not long enough.

You still using state computers to troll broncos83 brovol?
Ahhh. Charm, not DB. Although I was never convinced the two of you werent the same person (or at least lived together in the same cell or institution).
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(10-10-2017 10:50 AM)brovol Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:47 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:46 AM)brovol Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:27 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 05:23 AM)brovol Wrote:  Lawson has been about 2/3 full most nights. You ever think that happens at a Duke hoops game?

As a high powered, urban probate/family court judge I would think you can grasp the meaning of "potential"

Hey DB, long time no see. Just not long enough.

You still using state computers to troll broncos83 brovol?
Ahhh. Charm, not DB. Although I was never convinced the two of you werent the same person (or at least lived together in the same cell or institution).

Charm is a much more astute hockey person than most here, present company included broncos83.
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(10-10-2017 10:50 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:48 AM)brovol Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:28 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 07:23 AM)brovol Wrote:  If NHL talent is what determines the quality of a college conference, then the Big Ten is a better conference than the NCHC, as the B10 had 35 NHL players last year, and the NCHC had 29. I dont think the B10 is a better league than the NCHC, but do you Charm?

NCHC has 57 in the NHL.

Not by what I read. Source? Not "drafted", but "playing" under NHL contract.

NCHC Website, broncos83, er, brovol.

I would be delighted to have the Mods or anyone else assess whether I have ever even once in the many years I have been on this board used any other ID other than this one. It is outrageously pathetic, and quite loser-like to post using another ID. It suggests that you dont take full ownership in what you profess, and is a manifestation of insecurity. I always own what I say. Everyone may disagree with that, but at least I dont hide behind anything. You wish you could say the same. I know you dont have the character to admit it, Charm, but you can still do a self assessment and challenge yourself to be better. Ill say a little prayer for you brother. be at peace.
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