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It's a "done deal" when shovel meets dirt. Until then, all options (including the MPF) remain on the table. I expect some clarification after the new Council and Mayor have had a chance to settle into their new jobs and begin to form their own new alliances with each other. The first indication of such will be the election of a new Council President since the old one lost.

How much influence will the new Mayor have on this new Council, and vice versa? As we found with the change of national administration, the fall out from the change can be significant.
10-09-2017 02:35 PM
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(10-07-2017 05:04 PM)ucwboss Wrote:  Wasn't Papa John stadium built as a partnership between UofL and the Louisville Metro government?

As I recall the deal, it was 1/3 UL, 1/3 metro and 1/3 Popa John Corp. (The corp HQ is in Louisville)

FWIW: When PJ Corp bought into the NFL, it dropped its sponsorship of the B'ham Bowl game, but left its pizza making facility at Legion Field.
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(10-07-2017 11:39 AM)BirminghamJoseph2770 Wrote:  Think the foundation could do it again they did it once.

Could? They can do anything they decide to.

"Should they?" is another question entirely. I'm not big on extortion. UAB would, quite properly, have very little say in what the BJCC does. This would be a city/county owned project. If you were renting an apartment, what would you say if your landlord hit you up for money to renovate the place?
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(10-07-2017 01:24 PM)GreenMississippi Wrote:  
(10-07-2017 12:52 PM)WesternBlazer Wrote:  Wouldn't make sense to have UAB contribute when they will only use it 6 times a year...

1. We're kinda the ones clamoring for it the most.

2. I hope we can add another home game + host bowl game + another UAB event.

I still posit that UAB could appeal to Woodfin's base without spending many actual dimes, but provide something with a dollar value, by providing special scholarships reserved for Birmingham residents for degrees in venue management. Construction management for locals working on the project who could get their degrees after the project is finished would also be a nice add. The BJCC can hold X number of jobs for those management graduates. It's higher wage jobs for Woodfin voters, which is what he campaigned on. UAB can put a market value on it the education, but it only costs UAB the wholesale price. Win-win for everyone.

I think that's a fine idea, whether the degrees are in Venue Management or UAB ponies up scholarships for deserving Birmingham students in general. That sort of horse trading makes good sense to me.
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(10-08-2017 04:28 PM)Matrix Wrote:  "Back On Track?" When and why did it get off track in the first place? I was under the impression that this was a done deal. But, we've heard this before (OCS)...

"Done deal" under William Bell. There's a new mayor in town.
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Link to FB Video

He held his transition presser today. He had a clearer message on business relationships and future projects. Nothing definitive.
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http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/10...charl.html

He's gotten Ret. Marine General Krulak, the former President of Birmingham Southern, and Bobbie Knight, a former VP of Alabama Power, as his transition co-chairs. I don't know much about Ms. Knight, other than that you don't become a VP at Alabama Power by being ineffective and that she is a "lifelong Birmingham resident". I have nothing but respect for Krulak.

I take this as a good sign.

Ed Fields, his campaign chairman, is transition coordinator, which is unsurprising.
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(10-10-2017 03:29 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/10...charl.html

He's gotten Ret. Marine General Krulak, the former President of Birmingham Southern, and Bobbie Knight, a former VP of Alabama Power, as his transition co-chairs. I don't know much about Ms. Knight, other than that you don't become a VP at Alabama Power by being ineffective and that she is a "lifelong Birmingham resident". I have nothing but respect for Krulak.

I take this as a good sign.

Ed Fields, his campaign chairman, is transition coordinator, which is unsurprising.

Krulak is a great pick.

The article mentions he doesn't take office until Nov 28th so I wouldn't expect anything new on the stadium until after then.
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(10-10-2017 03:29 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  I don't know much about Ms. Knight, other than that you don't become a VP at Alabama Power by being ineffective and that she is a "lifelong Birmingham resident".

She was an Alabama Power flack when I was still in news media. She married a guy who played for the Falcons, so she's not anti-football, or at least wasn't back in the day.
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UAB will not be contributing funds to a stadium not in campus. End of discussion there. That said we are not allowed to build a stadium on campus anyway until after some funerals have taken place or we have leverage in the way of let us build it or rot in jail.
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Question for you guys. If the new stadium doesn't work out, is there a way to make it work at Regions Park? It currently holds about 8,500. Could you get an additional 20-25k temporary seating (similar to how Hoover does the Hoover Met for football) in left field and maybe outside the outfield wall in center field and right field?
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UAB will not be contributing funds to a stadium not in campus. End of discussion there. That said we are not allowed to build a stadium on campus anyway until after some funerals have taken place or we have leverage in the way of let us build it or rot in jail.
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AB: Wonder if UAB and the owners of our new soccer franchise could possibly work something out.....
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Regions is just too small and no one likes the idea. Could it be configured to something cool? Sure but the capacity would be much less than what we are averaging. You could squeeze 22-25K. To do anything more would require major construction and at that point better to build a new stadium.
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The way I see things regarding a playing venue, there are presently 4 main options -- #1 Legion Field as the only EXISTING sufficiently large venue now; #2 the BJCC open air medium size limited use stadium, #3 a UAB built OCS and #4 a MPF to expand the city's convention capabilities including those for sports. The last 3 all require new money be placed on the table and a commitment made to keep it coming.

The thinking that a baseball field / stadium can be adapted for UAB football is based on belief that interest in UAB football is temporary and will soon fall back to its "less than 20,000 level". I, on the other hand, believe that this interest has only just begun to flourish and will grow for the rest of this century (as the alumni base is expanded and becomes wealthier). The future of football is in the urban universities and these are the coming powers in the sport as people of means reclaim the inner cities (gentrification?) across this nation.

No matter which of the above 3 is decided upon to replace Legion Field, it is required that growth of UAB football is considered certain.
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(10-11-2017 08:49 AM)braves95 Wrote:  Question for you guys. If the new stadium doesn't work out, is there a way to make it work at Regions Park? It currently holds about 8,500. Could you get an additional 20-25k temporary seating (similar to how Hoover does the Hoover Met for football) in left field and maybe outside the outfield wall in center field and right field?
Ain't gonna happen. That venue was built for baseball and baseball only. Everybody knows that an on campus stadium is the way to go here. But won't happen under current Draconian rule.
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Regions FIELD (not Park) is NOT an option for football. Period. There is no way the city will allow it. As is it is now, once the Barons season starts UAB can no longer use it because they don't want additional wear on the turf.
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Regions Field is not an option. Period. There is no conceivable way to add enough temporary seating to make it a viable option. Furthermore, there is no way to add enough permanent seating without destroying the charm of one of the best minor league venues in the nation.

The Hoover Met is already a less-than-ideal venue for high school football. Why would anyone want to replicate that AND destroy a beautiful downtown baseball stadium in the process?
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