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Why banning bump stocks is a meaningless gesture
Because any semi-automatic firearm of sufficient recoil can be bump fired straight from the factory.



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RE: Why banning bump stocks is a meaningless gesture
That method kills any semblance of accuracy.
10-05-2017 08:26 PM
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RE: Why banning bump stocks is a meaningless gesture
(10-05-2017 08:26 PM)banker Wrote:  That method kills any semblance of accuracy.

When you are shooting into a crowd you don't have to be accurate.
10-05-2017 08:41 PM
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RE: Why banning bump stocks is a meaningless gesture
(10-05-2017 08:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 08:26 PM)banker Wrote:  That method kills any semblance of accuracy.

When you are shooting into a crowd you don't have to be accurate.

helen keller could've inflicted the same damage in the vegas scenario....
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RE: Why banning bump stocks is a meaningless gesture
(10-05-2017 08:45 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 08:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 08:26 PM)banker Wrote:  That method kills any semblance of accuracy.

When you are shooting into a crowd you don't have to be accurate.

helen keller could've inflicted the same damage in the vegas scenario....

And he could have killed more with a 100lb chlorine cylinder
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RE: Why banning bump stocks is a meaningless gesture
(10-05-2017 08:49 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 08:45 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 08:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 08:26 PM)banker Wrote:  That method kills any semblance of accuracy.

When you are shooting into a crowd you don't have to be accurate.

helen keller could've inflicted the same damage in the vegas scenario....

And he could have killed more with a 100lb chlorine cylinder

no question.....there are too many other scenarios that haven't played out to date.....

it's nice that most of us are on the good side of life......
10-05-2017 08:56 PM
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RE: Why banning bump stocks is a meaningless gesture
(10-05-2017 08:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 08:26 PM)banker Wrote:  That method kills any semblance of accuracy.

When you are shooting into a crowd you don't have to be accurate.

But a crowd isn't always a great target because of the sheer amount of meat bullets must pass through.

I'm not really a gun guy so this is kind of interesting. Thanks for sharing it.

I don't see much in this to concern most considering that it looks pretty clear that this method is still much slower than an actual automatic. That AK sounded like a Lewis Gun.
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RE: Why banning bump stocks is a meaningless gesture
Or we'll have to ban boards, sticks, rods, etc.



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Why banning bump stocks is a meaningless gesture
CNN when talking about bump stocks, shows an M-16 with a grenade launcher and suppressor, but no bump stock.

CNN is VERY fake news.

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RE: Why banning bump stocks is a meaningless gesture
(10-06-2017 07:55 PM)Kronke Wrote:  CNN when talking about bump stocks, shows an M-16 with a grenade launcher and suppressor, but no bump stock.

CNN is VERY fake news.

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But to an ignorant public that looks like a gun that should be banned. Their agenda is to scrap accuracy for effect.
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RE: Why banning bump stocks is a meaningless gesture
(10-06-2017 02:07 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Or we'll have to ban boards, sticks, rods, etc.




Looks like that ghetto rig isn't accurate at all.
10-07-2017 12:23 AM
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(10-07-2017 12:23 AM)EpicNiner Wrote:  
(10-06-2017 02:07 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Or we'll have to ban boards, sticks, rods, etc.




Looks like that ghetto rig isn't accurate at all.

It replaces accuracy with the sheer amount of lead it's sending downrange
10-07-2017 12:29 AM
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RE: Why banning bump stocks is a meaningless gesture
(10-05-2017 07:55 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Because any semi-automatic firearm of sufficient recoil can be bump fired straight from the factory.




So what you're saying is those are effectively automatic weapons and should be illegal ... I can't disagree with that.
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(10-07-2017 07:33 AM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 07:55 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Because any semi-automatic firearm of sufficient recoil can be bump fired straight from the factory.




So what you're saying is those are effectively automatic weapons and should be illegal ... I can't disagree with that.

LOL Good luck with that.
10-07-2017 09:43 AM
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RE: Why banning bump stocks is a meaningless gesture
All of this gun kills crap is glossing over the real issue in all of these mass killings....

guns are only the tool but the ideal grew somewhere else and that is the real problem. I don't do facebook so I don't know when it became what it is today. But I bet if you did a timeline of when it started becoming important in people's lives. Especially those on the fringe that just needed a push of inclusion. I bet it comes close to following the growing number of mass shootings. So for all of you that want guns banned or the FBI/ATF to come knocking on the door of firearm owners if they buy guns. How many of you are OK with the government tracking us all and putting us all in groups and when we say these angry things sitting behind a keyboard. Letting the government knocking on your door taking you downtown and doing a mental evaluation on you? Which one would be easier to put in place.....

1. take all guns away
2. track us all and when we hit a certain number the government has the right to come get you

My guess part of #2 is already happening but without the coming and getting you. Guns are only the tool but social media is the reason for the increase. The numbers might be lower if there were no guns. But there still would be "numbers". Lets be honest, while the mess murders are shocking...the total numbers are barely a decimal point in overall deaths in America. So why would we be willing to give up any of our rights for such a small problem...overall

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RE: Why banning bump stocks is a meaningless gesture
Poor bump stocks. The ire of the media now.

"I got in one little crime and the media got scared. They said bump stocks. Bump stocks killin everywhere!"
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RE: Why banning bump stocks is a meaningless gesture
Bump stocks have been a meaningless party favor until now. They serve no real purpose other than a little outdoor range fun for people who want to waste a lot of $$ on ammo. To each their own.

It's a federal offense to convert any semi-auto to full-auto. But it's not hard to do if you want to break the law. Reason why a bump stock ban is both meaningless and the 1st step towards outlawing semi autos that can be illegally converted.
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RE: Why banning bump stocks is a meaningless gesture
So fully automatic might as well be legal and readily available?
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RE: Why banning bump stocks is a meaningless gesture
(10-08-2017 05:38 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  So fully automatic might as well be legal and readily available?

Hey, still waiting on you to provide evidence to back up your cockamamie claim that Paddock was a NRA guy.

http://csnbbs.com/thread-829127-page-2.html
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RE: Why banning bump stocks is a meaningless gesture
(10-08-2017 06:12 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(10-08-2017 05:38 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  So fully automatic might as well be legal and readily available?

Hey, still waiting on you to provide evidence to back up your cockamamie claim that Paddock was a NRA guy.

http://csnbbs.com/thread-829127-page-2.html

Did you also request evidence that he was an atheist and registered Democrat?
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