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What impact will fewer FCS games have on bowl eligibility?
This year, there will be 17 fewer games between FBS teams and FCS opponents. How likely is it that there will be fewer bowl eligible teams as a result?

IIRC, last year there were only 76 conventionally eligible teams to fill 80 slots. Will we do better or worse this year?
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RE: What impact will fewer FCS games have on bowl eligibility?
we have 30 teams already by quick counting with at least 4 wins. 36 more have 3 wins. 23 other teams are 2-2 so far. So I think we are a bit better than you think....

Also, didn't we lose a bowl game this year? If so we only need 78 teams.
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RE: What impact will fewer FCS games have on bowl eligibility?
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RE: What impact will fewer FCS games have on bowl eligibility?
(10-05-2017 09:54 AM)stever20 Wrote:  we have 30 teams already by quick counting with at least 4 wins. 36 more have 3 wins. 23 other teams are 2-2 so far. So I think we are a bit better than you think....

Also, didn't we lose a bowl game this year? If so we only need 78 teams.

Actually, I didn't say what I think.

Last year at this point in the season, there were 70 teams with 3 or more wins. This year, 66.

Last year at this point in the season, there were 16 FCS games remaining on FBS schedules. This year, there are 6.

Last year at this point in the season, there were 37 teams with 3 or more losses. This year, there are 49.

All that being said, it isn't necessarily how many teams are playing fewer FCS opponents as which specific teams those are. Oklahoma State doesn't play an FCS this year, but they are still likely to qualify for a bowl. Eastern Michigan, on the other hand, might be more vulnerable.

Of course, we could just wait until Week 13 to find out the answer, but what fun is that?
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RE: What impact will fewer FCS games have on bowl eligibility?
(10-05-2017 11:15 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 09:54 AM)stever20 Wrote:  we have 30 teams already by quick counting with at least 4 wins. 36 more have 3 wins. 23 other teams are 2-2 so far. So I think we are a bit better than you think....

Also, didn't we lose a bowl game this year? If so we only need 78 teams.

Actually, I didn't say what I think.

Last year at this point in the season, there were 70 teams with 3 or more wins. This year, 66.

Last year at this point in the season, there were 16 FCS games remaining on FBS schedules. This year, there are 6.

Last year at this point in the season, there were 37 teams with 3 or more losses. This year, there are 49.

All that being said, it isn't necessarily how many teams are playing fewer FCS opponents as which specific teams those are. Oklahoma State doesn't play an FCS this year, but they are still likely to qualify for a bowl. Eastern Michigan, on the other hand, might be more vulnerable.

Of course, we could just wait until Week 13 to find out the answer, but what fun is that?
I think there's been more byes(largely weather related) so far this year compared to last year. I mean right now 76 teams have played at least 5 games. So that's what 54 teams that have had their byes already. 16 more teams get their byes this weekend(so over half the byes will be done after this weekend).

Also in the bowl calculations you have to add 1 team who can go bowling(UAB) and subtract 2 teams who can't go bowling(bowl dropped). That's going to help a lot. I think I'd be really surprised if we wind up with a shortfall of teams this year.
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RE: What impact will fewer FCS games have on bowl eligibility?
If Shoegate spills over into football before the season is over, there could also be some self-imposed post season bans that could really throw the bowls into uncharted territory.
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RE: What impact will fewer FCS games have on bowl eligibility?
(10-05-2017 01:29 PM)ken d Wrote:  If Shoegate spills over into football before the season is over, there could also be some self-imposed post season bans that could really throw the bowls into uncharted territory.

I kind of don't see that happening, but you never know.
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RE: What impact will fewer FCS games have on bowl eligibility?
(10-05-2017 01:29 PM)ken d Wrote:  If Shoegate spills over into football before the season is over, there could also be some self-imposed post season bans that could really throw the bowls into uncharted territory.

The basket's unpacked and we're at the park. With ominous skies overhead, this picnic is going to happen until it's forced to stop.

Because, "this will hurt others if we do this now." Schools couldn't possibly hurt their conferences and their precious bowl partnerships...
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RE: What impact will fewer FCS games have on bowl eligibility?
Quote:This year, there will be 17 fewer games between FBS teams and FCS opponents.

And still a good share of FCS upsets despite fewer matchups, which helps keep the door open, too. There are postponed games though, as pointed out, but some won't be re-played.

Which means, if a team goes 5-6, they won't be going to a bowl (or will be near the top of the waiting list).
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RE: What impact will fewer FCS games have on bowl eligibility?
coastal carlina & UAB might throw out 20 wins to FBS
that will help
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(10-05-2017 05:38 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  coastal carlina & UAB might throw out 20 wins to FBS
that will help

Along with UMass, Charlotte, UTEP, etc.

Having some really, really bad teams helps bowl eligibility as well.
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RE: What impact will fewer FCS games have on bowl eligibility?
UTSA gets Baylor (W), UAB, UTEP, Rice and Texas State (W). Five easy wins (or should be)
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RE: What impact will fewer FCS games have on bowl eligibility?
If the shoegate flows into the football? Should the top teams in FCS fill in for some of the bowls? Some of them could provide some great matchups against some of the G5 conferences. This could push the FCS playoffs back just in case who could go to a bowl game.
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RE: What impact will fewer FCS games have on bowl eligibility?
(10-05-2017 07:23 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  If the shoegate flows into the football? Should the top teams in FCS fill in for some of the bowls? Some of them could provide some great matchups against some of the G5 conferences. This could push the FCS playoffs back just in case who could go to a bowl game.

The lowest level bowl games will probably just close up shop
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(10-05-2017 07:23 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  If the shoegate flows into the football? Should the top teams in FCS fill in for some of the bowls? Some of them could provide some great matchups against some of the G5 conferences. This could push the FCS playoffs back just in case who could go to a bowl game.

Just stop. It’s never going to happen, delusional.
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RE: What impact will fewer FCS games have on bowl eligibility?
(10-05-2017 09:35 AM)ken d Wrote:  This year, there will be 17 fewer games between FBS teams and FCS opponents. How likely is it that there will be fewer bowl eligible teams as a result?

IIRC, last year there were only 76 conventionally eligible teams to fill 80 slots. Will we do better or worse this year?

Well if most additions fall into the lower rung of a conference: Maryland & Rutgers, Missouri, and Boston College recently, then perhaps not much. And teams that fiddle middle of the pack don't hurt much either Nebraska, Texas A&M, Colorado, Utah, and Notre Dame. It's the T.C.U. and Louisville types who make their presence felt and usually are in position to knock a Florida State, Clemson, or Oklahoma out of the CFP that pose the real threat from realignment.
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RE: What impact will fewer FCS games have on bowl eligibility?
(10-05-2017 07:23 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  If the shoegate flows into the football? Should the top teams in FCS fill in for some of the bowls? Some of them could provide some great matchups against some of the G5 conferences. This could push the FCS playoffs back just in case who could go to a bowl game.

Might as well invite the Wonder boys from Arkansas Tech. hehehehehe

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(10-05-2017 08:36 PM)utpotts Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 07:23 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  If the shoegate flows into the football? Should the top teams in FCS fill in for some of the bowls? Some of them could provide some great matchups against some of the G5 conferences. This could push the FCS playoffs back just in case who could go to a bowl game.

Just stop. It’s never going to happen, delusional.

But DavidSt is serious!
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RE: What impact will fewer FCS games have on bowl eligibility?
(10-05-2017 09:06 PM)ARSTATEFAN1986 Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 08:36 PM)utpotts Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 07:23 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  If the shoegate flows into the football? Should the top teams in FCS fill in for some of the bowls? Some of them could provide some great matchups against some of the G5 conferences. This could push the FCS playoffs back just in case who could go to a bowl game.

Just stop. It’s never going to happen, delusional.

But DavidSt is serious!
It would seem that being serious and being delusional is not always a contradiction.
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(10-05-2017 07:45 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 07:23 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  If the shoegate flows into the football? Should the top teams in FCS fill in for some of the bowls? Some of them could provide some great matchups against some of the G5 conferences. This could push the FCS playoffs back just in case who could go to a bowl game.

The lowest level bowl games will probably just close up shop


I don't know. I think they would like North Dakota State, James Madison and a Jacksonville State that proves they could be ball with the big boys. This could be a try out for these schools to get a serious conference invites in the future.
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