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1950s gambling scandal
https://www.city-journal.org/html/big-fix-15466.html
Interesting read on when college basketball was king in NYC. Then the gambling scandal ended that.
The shoe scandal isn't as bad as throwing games or shaving points, but it could also have a long run negative impact.
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RE: 1950s gambling scandal
(10-04-2017 07:50 AM)bullet Wrote: https://www.city-journal.org/html/big-fix-15466.html
Interesting read on when college basketball was king in NYC. Then the gambling scandal ended that.
The shoe scandal isn't as bad as throwing games or shaving points, but it could also have a long run negative impact.
Who says gambling isn't involved in the current scandal?
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RE: 1950s gambling scandal
I wonder where CCNY/NYU/LIU would be today without the scandal.
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RE: 1950s gambling scandal
The early 1950's were a time of major change for college sports. In addition to the point shaving scandal, there were academic scandals at Army and at William & Mary, and the NCAA was wrestling with how to deal with television rights (Penn and Notre Dame were selling their TV rights directly) and athletic scholarships. As a result, many programs reconsidered their commitment to college athletics. The Ivy League was formally formed based on principles of not offering athletic scholarships. A number of schools, including Georgetown, Fordham and NYU, dropped football. Temple dropped down to the college division (D2). On the other hand, many programs, following the Big Ten's lead, recommitted themselves to playing at the top level. Syracuse, for instance, which had lost Cornell, Fordham and Temple as regular opponents, added stronger programs to its schedule like Pitt, WVU (played in the 1954 Sugar Bowl) and Maryland (1953 National Champions). Similarly, the ACC split from the Southern Conference during this period.
(This post was last modified: 10-04-2017 11:16 AM by orangefan.)
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RE: 1950s gambling scandal
Carmine Lupertazzi was a great man. My cousin told me it was Carmine who invited point shaving.
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RE: 1950s gambling scandal
(10-04-2017 10:58 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote: I wonder where CCNY/NYU/LIU would be today without the scandal.
Kentucky was in the middle of the scandal as well, receiving the equivalent of the "death penalty" for it.
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RE: 1950s gambling scandal
(10-04-2017 07:50 AM)bullet Wrote: https://www.city-journal.org/html/big-fix-15466.html
Interesting read on when college basketball was king in NYC. Then the gambling scandal ended that.
The shoe scandal isn't as bad as throwing games or shaving points, but it could also have a long run negative impact.
Well that and it already had an established downward trend.
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RE: 1950s gambling scandal
(10-04-2017 12:46 PM)CliftonAve Wrote: Carmine Lupertazzi was a great man. My cousin told me it was Carmine who invited point shaving.
Well you have teases, and then the house wins against the closing line 85% of the time. It's why the NFL is called an "entertainment industry" and not a "sports industry".
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RE: 1950s gambling scandal
As far as former powers go, Bradley from the Midwest was one of the top programs. Wonder what happened to them?
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RE: 1950s gambling scandal
(10-04-2017 10:58 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote: I wonder where CCNY/NYU/LIU would be today without the scandal.
NYU very well may be in the Big East, playing games at MSG. Ditto for LIU-Brooklyn, except at the BC.
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RE: 1950s gambling scandal
(10-04-2017 11:11 AM)orangefan Wrote: The early 1950's were a time of major change for college sports. In addition to the point shaving scandal, there were academic scandals at Army and at William & Mary, and the NCAA was wrestling with how to deal with television rights (Penn and Notre Dame were selling their TV rights directly) and athletic scholarships. As a result, many programs reconsidered their commitment to college athletics. The Ivy League was formally formed based on principles of not offering athletic scholarships. A number of schools, including Georgetown, Fordham and NYU, dropped football. Temple dropped down to the college division (D2). On the other hand, many programs, following the Big Ten's lead, recommitted themselves to playing at the top level. Syracuse, for instance, which had lost Cornell, Fordham and Temple as regular opponents, added stronger programs to its schedule like Pitt, WVU (played in the 1954 Sugar Bowl) and Maryland (1953 National Champions). Similarly, the ACC split from the Southern Conference during this period.
Also, there were pay-for-play scandals at Cal, USC, UCLA, and Washington in 1956. Those schools left the PCC to set higher academic standards in a new conference (the AAWU, eventually renamed the PAC). When they invited new members, they conveniently neglected to invite Idaho.
There was also a great change in the "face" of college sports in the North as blacks were gradually given more opportunities. Cincinnati's Oscar Robertson (1957-'59) and Syracuse's Ernie Davis (1959-'61) proved that blacks could compete at the highest level. From 1945-1951, 13 of the 28 Final Four teams were from the South. As Northern schools desegregated, over the next decade (1952-61) only 6 of the 40 Final Four teams were from the South.
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RE: 1950s gambling scandal
(10-04-2017 01:41 PM)orangefan Wrote: (10-04-2017 10:58 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote: I wonder where CCNY/NYU/LIU would be today without the scandal.
Kentucky was in the middle of the scandal as well, receiving the equivalent of the "death penalty" for it.
That's in the article.
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RE: 1950s gambling scandal
(10-05-2017 04:26 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote: (10-04-2017 11:11 AM)orangefan Wrote: The early 1950's were a time of major change for college sports. In addition to the point shaving scandal, there were academic scandals at Army and at William & Mary, and the NCAA was wrestling with how to deal with television rights (Penn and Notre Dame were selling their TV rights directly) and athletic scholarships. As a result, many programs reconsidered their commitment to college athletics. The Ivy League was formally formed based on principles of not offering athletic scholarships. A number of schools, including Georgetown, Fordham and NYU, dropped football. Temple dropped down to the college division (D2). On the other hand, many programs, following the Big Ten's lead, recommitted themselves to playing at the top level. Syracuse, for instance, which had lost Cornell, Fordham and Temple as regular opponents, added stronger programs to its schedule like Pitt, WVU (played in the 1954 Sugar Bowl) and Maryland (1953 National Champions). Similarly, the ACC split from the Southern Conference during this period.
Also, there were pay-for-play scandals at Cal, USC, UCLA, and Washington in 1956. Those schools left the PCC to set higher academic standards in a new conference (the AAWU, eventually renamed the PAC). When they invited new members, they conveniently neglected to invite Idaho.
There was also a great change in the "face" of college sports in the North as blacks were gradually given more opportunities. Cincinnati's Oscar Robertson (1957-'59) and Syracuse's Ernie Davis (1959-'61) proved that blacks could compete at the highest level. From 1945-1951, 13 of the 28 Final Four teams were from the South. As Northern schools desegregated, over the next decade (1952-61) only 6 of the 40 Final Four teams were from the South.
I think the invitations for Montana ans Idaho just got lost in the mail.
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