(10-05-2017 11:20 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  So, what you are saying is that both teams messed that play up?

That entire game was a freaking clinic on bad pursuit angles (in the case of GS) and bad tackling and pursuit angles (in the case of Ark State).

(10-05-2017 11:22 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  That entire game was a freaking clinic on bad pursuit angles (in the case of GS) and bad tackling and pursuit angles (in the case of Ark State).

Or how not to cover a receiver on a pass route. About half this board could have scored a TD on a few of our plays. Probably would have made more extra points as well...

(10-05-2017 11:03 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  

(10-05-2017 10:38 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  There were no holes. We just can't tackle. On Fields TD the guy who was assigned to the QB on the pitch never made an attempt to go after the back once the ball was pitched (Despite the fact it wasn't a great pitch and the back was a foot or two away), leaving him 1 on 1. On the Long TD, one of our defenders managed to take out the man that was assigned to stop the pitch, leaving to an open TD.

We did better in the 2nd half, but to do so we had to commit players in the defensive backfield to the run, and basically say that Werts can't beat us throught he air. Gave him some easy pass plays at times that led to a TD, probably more if GS was a better team..

We also failed to put a spy on the QB in the 4th quarter when it was clear that you guys were going to have to pass to get back in the game, leading to Werts getting out of trouble that he shouldn't have.

That entire game was a failure for our defense outside of forcing a couple turnovers. Coastal Carolina, ULL, and NMSU are our next three games. They won't let us get away with playing poorly defensively.

That play should have been wide open anyway. Ramsby missed his cut block and Werts and Fields should have been 2 on 1 on the outside for the easy TD. Lack of execution in our blocking game by multiple position groups is our biggest problem on offense right now. We got lucky on that play your guys cant tackle (though Fields is known to break a tackle or two anyway). The guy you are talking about Ellis-Brewer is the one who ended up wrapping Fields around the waste and missing the tackle, Darreon Jackson actually whiffed on Fields when he made the hard cut upfield.

Assuming this is the play you are talking about: http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=20917955

I think this played out on the ground like a thought is would, they cant stop the run and we ran it. We missed blocks all night and they still had a hard time stopping us with just a hint of daylight. The long pass play was a blind squirrel moment if there ever was one as every other pass in the game caught or not was sub par.

I think this game for the offense is misleading as we just played to their weakness as they have one of the worst run defenses in the country. NMSU is giving up 162 yards rushing a game which is also not good but a lot better than ArkSt. If we put a number on them then maybe we have improved.

(10-04-2017 11:15 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 10:52 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:   What the @$% has Fritz done in New Orleans. He was 4-8 last year with wins over Southern (8-3), ULL (6-7), UMass (2-10) and UConn (3-9). And this year are 2-2 with wins over Grambling (3-1), Army (3-2). And you may have 3 more wins on your schedule. You may beat FIU and downtrodden ECU and win a toss up against Tulsa/Cincinnati.

My guess is Fritz is fired before he ever gets another job somewhere else. Tulane has had a whopping 3 winning seasons since their improvable run in 1998. The 3 winning season: 2000 6-5, 2002 8-5, 2013 7-6.

Gosh, HerdZoned, it's like Tulane underestimated how much of our initial FBS success was our program instead of Fritz...

What Im saying is Tulane is a coaching graveyard, since their magical run in 1998 thanks to Tommy Bowden and more thanks to OC Rich Rodriguez Tulane has been abysmal.

Chris Scelfo 1999-2006 -- 37-57 (2 winning seasons 2000, 2002)
Bob Toledo 2007-2011 -- 15-40 (0 winning seasons)
Matt Houston Interim Head Coach Last 6 Games of 2011 -- 0-6
Curtis Johnson 2012-2015 -- 15-34
Willie Fritz 2016-Present 6-10
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Combined record of 79-147 (Since 1999)

(10-05-2017 11:27 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 11:15 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 10:52 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:   What the @$% has Fritz done in New Orleans. He was 4-8 last year with wins over Southern (8-3), ULL (6-7), UMass (2-10) and UConn (3-9). And this year are 2-2 with wins over Grambling (3-1), Army (3-2). And you may have 3 more wins on your schedule. You may beat FIU and downtrodden ECU and win a toss up against Tulsa/Cincinnati.

My guess is Fritz is fired before he ever gets another job somewhere else. Tulane has had a whopping 3 winning seasons since their improvable run in 1998. The 3 winning season: 2000 6-5, 2002 8-5, 2013 7-6.

Gosh, HerdZoned, it's like Tulane underestimated how much of our initial FBS success was our program instead of Fritz...

What Im saying is Tulane is a coaching graveyard, since their magical run in 1998 thanks to Tommy Bowden and more thanks to OC Rich Rodriguez Tulane has been abysmal.

Chris Scelfo 1999-2006 -- 37-57 (2 winning seasons 2000, 2002)
Bob Toledo 2007-2011 -- 15-40 (0 winning seasons)
Matt Houston Interim Head Coach Last 6 Games of 2011 -- 0-6
Curtis Johnson 2012-2015 -- 15-34
Willie Fritz 2016-Present 6-10
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Combined record of 79-147 (Since 1999)

Yes Tulane has been a dumpster fire but you need more than two years to turn a dumpster fire like that around especially in the AAC it is far an above the best G5 and that is not debatable. It took PJ Fleck three years and that was amazing as WMU was the worst team in college football when he got there. If he gets them to a bowl they should erect a statue. He can squeak that in with wins at Tulsa, ECU, Cincy and FIU as they are all pretty bad. Navy is not joke and barely beat them and an Army win is a solid win now. The next two games should be very telling. I dont know if he can but if he turns Tulane around given that history programs should be lining up with truck loads of cash to try and steal him away.

(10-05-2017 09:47 AM)ChiefGSU275 Wrote:  

(10-05-2017 09:37 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

This girl gets it.

When I saw that happen I legitimately thought he crop dusted her.

Crop dusted her. LOL

Guys, I've been busy and on the road with work... so this might have already been said, but I wanted to congratulate GS on their new head coach! Surely last night sealed the deal, right?

(10-05-2017 12:30 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(10-05-2017 09:47 AM)ChiefGSU275 Wrote:  

(10-05-2017 09:37 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

This girl gets it.

When I saw that happen I legitimately thought he crop dusted her.

Crop dusted her. LOL

(10-04-2017 09:38 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Real talk:

Willie Fritz runs an option run system at Tulane. He makes $1.6 million/year. Tulane under him has one of the BEST turnover ratios in CFB (not just G5). After watching GS cough up the ball like a HS basketball team, was it REALLY worth it to the save petty cash? I think your new guy is doing more damage than that to your program per year - you had a top G5 program under Fritz, and he didn't want to leave you all UNTIL your AD got cheap.

If I were a GS fan, I would want the AD out BEFORE looking for a new HC.

Real talk:

We had no money (real, magic or monopoly) to pay Willie his worth at that time. We had a $2M budget gap as we left the SoCon in 2013 for the Sun Belt, but everyone blames our AD who had just arrived in Nov. 2012.

Our AD has a lot of things he needs to correct, but no one could have bridged the gap that existed from our lack of donor base. Some like to say that is when it is time to get creative with the accounting, but we'd already done that to get a deck built and build a football ops building. You can only be so creative.

Our failure to retain and pay a coach mid-market G5 level in 2015 was a problem rooted in foundational failings a decade in the making, when our previous AD was content with the status quo.

(10-05-2017 04:28 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  Guys, I've been busy and on the road with work... so this might have already been said, but I wanted to congratulate GS on their new head coach! Surely last night sealed the deal, right?

No, it's going to take a butt-whipping from the Aggies on Homecoming. Too much smoke and mirrors offensive success vs. the Red Wolves, some people may think it means something. Truth be told, arkst is just really bad at run defense as they pointed out to us many times on here.

I think it's going to take getting to 7 losses, if it even happens then.

(10-05-2017 11:29 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  Yes Tulane has been a dumpster fire but you need more than two years to turn a dumpster fire like that around especially in the AAC it is far an above the best G5 and that is not debatable. It took PJ Fleck three years and that was amazing as WMU was the worst team in college football when he got there. If he gets them to a bowl they should erect a statue. He can squeak that in with wins at Tulsa, ECU, Cincy and FIU as they are all pretty bad. Navy is not joke and barely beat them and an Army win is a solid win now. The next two games should be very telling. I dont know if he can but if he turns Tulane around given that history programs should be lining up with truck loads of cash to try and steal him away.

Fritz will be fired before there is a line at his door to hand him bags of cash. Tulane may win 2 maybe 3 more games, their best shot are FIU and ECU. Cincinnati and Tulsa will be toss ups. Cincinnati has some talent, Fickell has just not learned how to put it together, that and Hayden Moore isn't a IA QB, the kid is wildly inaccurate with the ball. Also again the option isn't that hard to defend. Each position has 1 man to defend on the play and you don't roam from that one man. You do that you stop the option. What happens when the option beats you either the LBs/CBs/S try and cheat and they get beat on the play. But if you stay on your man and have gap coverage the option is shut down.

(10-06-2017 12:18 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(10-05-2017 11:29 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  Yes Tulane has been a dumpster fire but you need more than two years to turn a dumpster fire like that around especially in the AAC it is far an above the best G5 and that is not debatable. It took PJ Fleck three years and that was amazing as WMU was the worst team in college football when he got there. If he gets them to a bowl they should erect a statue. He can squeak that in with wins at Tulsa, ECU, Cincy and FIU as they are all pretty bad. Navy is not joke and barely beat them and an Army win is a solid win now. The next two games should be very telling. I dont know if he can but if he turns Tulane around given that history programs should be lining up with truck loads of cash to try and steal him away.

Fritz will be fired before there is a line at his door to hand him bags of cash. Tulane may win 2 maybe 3 more games, their best shot are FIU and ECU. Cincinnati and Tulsa will be toss ups. Cincinnati has some talent, Fickell has just not learned how to put it together, that and Hayden Moore isn't a IA QB, the kid is wildly inaccurate with the ball. Also again the option isn't that hard to defend. Each position has 1 man to defend on the play and you don't roam from that one man. You do that you stop the option. What happens when the option beats you either the LBs/CBs/S try and cheat and they get beat on the play. But if you stay on your man and have gap coverage the option is shut down.

...and if wins three more games that will be better than the last three years and only one 7 win season since 2004, trending up is trending up. Also we will have to see how bad the losses are vs the most previous years as with us there is a difference in going 0-4 and going 0-4 and being curbed stomped along the way the way Tulane's last coach went out doing. Going toe to toe with Navy who is an access bowl candidate every year is not nothing.

I still think he is a year away till you can make a determination as he is still dealing with the previous coach's team for the most part. His guys will probably be hitting the starting line up in mass starting next year.

(10-06-2017 12:18 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(10-05-2017 11:29 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  Yes Tulane has been a dumpster fire but you need more than two years to turn a dumpster fire like that around especially in the AAC it is far an above the best G5 and that is not debatable. It took PJ Fleck three years and that was amazing as WMU was the worst team in college football when he got there. If he gets them to a bowl they should erect a statue. He can squeak that in with wins at Tulsa, ECU, Cincy and FIU as they are all pretty bad. Navy is not joke and barely beat them and an Army win is a solid win now. The next two games should be very telling. I dont know if he can but if he turns Tulane around given that history programs should be lining up with truck loads of cash to try and steal him away.

Fritz will be fired before there is a line at his door to hand him bags of cash. Tulane may win 2 maybe 3 more games, their best shot are FIU and ECU. Cincinnati and Tulsa will be toss ups. Cincinnati has some talent, Fickell has just not learned how to put it together, that and Hayden Moore isn't a IA QB, the kid is wildly inaccurate with the ball. Also again the option isn't that hard to defend. Each position has 1 man to defend on the play and you don't roam from that one man. You do that you stop the option. What happens when the option beats you either the LBs/CBs/S try and cheat and they get beat on the play. But if you stay on your man and have gap coverage the option is shut down.

You were saying?

(10-06-2017 06:41 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  I think it's going to take getting to 7 losses, if it even happens then.

I see your 7 and raise you 5.