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RE: Louisville on the way out?
(10-04-2017 09:44 AM)JerryJeff Wrote:  
(10-04-2017 07:20 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(10-04-2017 07:10 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  If UNC tries to boot Louisville, I doubt it would succeed... and the Tar Heels would risk losing any influence they previously had with the other members schools in the process.

Beware trying to kick out a member of the country club. You're right, things could get VERY UGLY.

It's best not to throw mud when you could use some support.

Baylor hired Jim Grobe from outside to start the culture change, Louisville promotes an assistant for continuity.

https://pilotonline.com/sports/columnist...60934.html


NCAA should hand Louisville the death penalty, and ACC should kick Cards to the curb
The ACC should also reverse the mistake it made in 2014, kick Louisville to the curb and invite UConn to replace the Cardinals.

Yes, it would be messy. And no, UConn football isn’t very good, though it surely would improve in the ACC.

It would be a painful divorce, but doing the right thing often involves pain.

That sounds a lot like buyer's remorse.

Until you hear someone from the ACC offices or a spokesperson from an ACC school say these things, you should just quit with this buyers remorse nonsense that you keep peddling over here.
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RE: Louisville on the way out?
Right now you have a Lexington, Kentucky columnist throwing shade at other ACC Members schools and you have a counter attack from a Virginia columnist...pretty silly IMO.
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RE: Louisville on the way out?
(10-04-2017 09:09 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(10-04-2017 07:53 AM)Dasville Wrote:  Well, if the ACC booted UofL, the combo of Cincy and us to the Big 12 becomes viable.
UConn to the ACC.
Not what I would prefer but not a bad landing spot.

Not that I think Louisville would be booted from the ACC because that seems to unrealistic at this point. But what makes you think the Big12 would invite a Louisville program that is facing massive legal, and NCAA issues if they were booted from the ACC? And why would Cincy prefer the Big12 if an ACC invite is on the line? If Louisville left the ACC, Im sure Cincy or WV would get looks well before Uconn.

Well, wVU has signed a grant of rights so they are out for the ACC. That leaves Cincy and uConn for the ACC replacement. As UNC is calling for our exit based on the op, then they run the ACC. My guess in this scenario would be that UNC would rather UConn not only be in the ACC, but also be in the Coastal Dovision. As it was a Pittsburgh guy who began this whole FBI scandal, UNC would have them moved to the Atlantic Division.
Hindsight has proven that the best move for the Big12 would have been the addition of UofL and Cincy to get to 12 teams especially now that they have a CCG.
Big12 is a football heavy conference and we are a football stud. Adding us and Cincy would give the Big12 inroads to the east coast and shore up the est.
Not that it is what I prefer, but not a bad landing spot.
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RE: Louisville on the way out?
Grant. Of. Rights. Will. Not. Happen.

And honestly, the paper is right. It's gallingly hypocritical to impose extra punishment on Louisville when UNC and Miami have gotten away with stuff just as horrible, possibly worse. The ultimate transgression for a .edu is to print worthless diplomas, particularly deliberately. So if I'm judge, jury, and executioner ... UNC is the first head to roll.
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RE: Louisville on the way out?
(10-04-2017 10:33 AM)Maize Wrote:  Right now you have a Lexington, Kentucky columnist throwing shade at other ACC Members schools and you have a counter attack from a Virginia columnist...pretty silly IMO.

Teel is as close to an unofficial official mouthpiece the ACC has....it's not that same as trotting Coach K out...but it's close.
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RE: Louisville on the way out?
(10-04-2017 12:03 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(10-04-2017 10:33 AM)Maize Wrote:  Right now you have a Lexington, Kentucky columnist throwing shade at other ACC Members schools and you have a counter attack from a Virginia columnist...pretty silly IMO.

Teel is as close to an unofficial official mouthpiece the ACC has....it's not that same as trotting Coach K out...but it's close.

The article from the Virginia Pilot linked in this thread was penned by Harry Minium.

David Teel writes for Daily Press.
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RE: Louisville on the way out?
(10-04-2017 12:03 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(10-04-2017 10:33 AM)Maize Wrote:  Right now you have a Lexington, Kentucky columnist throwing shade at other ACC Members schools and you have a counter attack from a Virginia columnist...pretty silly IMO.

Teel is as close to an unofficial official mouthpiece the ACC has....it's not that same as trotting Coach K out...but it's close.

The hard work is defending UofL. Don't expect that from the media.
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RE: Louisville on the way out?
(10-04-2017 09:09 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(10-04-2017 07:53 AM)Dasville Wrote:  Well, if the ACC booted UofL, the combo of Cincy and us to the Big 12 becomes viable.
UConn to the ACC.
Not what I would prefer but not a bad landing spot.

Not that I think Louisville would be booted from the ACC because that seems to unrealistic at this point. But what makes you think the Big12 would invite a Louisville program that is facing massive legal, and NCAA issues if they were booted from the ACC? And why would Cincy prefer the Big12 if an ACC invite is on the line? If Louisville left the ACC, Im sure Cincy or WV would get looks well before Uconn.

Cincinnati would love to have this dilemma.

Speaking as a UC alum/supporter, we'd take whoever gave us the best deal. This likely would be the ACC since the Big 12 would want to pro-rate the media rights over five years. Moreover, the Big 12 has a lot more uncertainty due to the Texas/Oklahoma/Kansas having wandering eyes.

OTOH, it would be really cool to be reunited with Louisville and WVU. Our association with the Cards go way back and we are separated by 100 miles of highway. Then again, in the ACC Pitt and Notre Dame (Olympic sports) are within close proximity as well...

Of course, my thoughts are all an exercise in mental masturbation as I don't think the ACC will boot UofL.
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RE: Louisville on the way out?
(10-04-2017 12:09 PM)H.U.S.T.L.E. Wrote:  
(10-04-2017 12:03 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(10-04-2017 10:33 AM)Maize Wrote:  Right now you have a Lexington, Kentucky columnist throwing shade at other ACC Members schools and you have a counter attack from a Virginia columnist...pretty silly IMO.

Teel is as close to an unofficial official mouthpiece the ACC has....it's not that same as trotting Coach K out...but it's close.

The article from the Virginia Pilot linked in this thread was penned by Harry Minium.

David Teel writes for Daily Press.


Teel's article
http://www.dailypress.com/sports/teel-bl...y,amp.html
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RE: Louisville on the way out?
05-stirthepot03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao Well, I see we are being invaded by Kentucky and American Conference trolls today. 07-coffee3
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RE: Louisville on the way out?
(10-04-2017 04:36 AM)XLance Wrote:  Lexington-Herald writer Mark Short tries to justify Louisville's continued membership in the ACC by throwing dirt on Carolina's on going NCAA investigation.
Louisville must really be feeling the heat.
The Cardinals didn't do themselves any favors when they named Rick Pitino's assistant David Padgett as their interim head coach. Promoting a deputy Fox to guard the same hen house is no way to boost confidence that the program will be heading in another direction.

http://www.kentucky.com/sports/spt-colum...46751.html

This isn't over, and it's going to get ugly.
Louisville just lost Carolina's vote.

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RE: Louisville on the way out?
(10-04-2017 12:36 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(10-04-2017 12:09 PM)H.U.S.T.L.E. Wrote:  
(10-04-2017 12:03 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(10-04-2017 10:33 AM)Maize Wrote:  Right now you have a Lexington, Kentucky columnist throwing shade at other ACC Members schools and you have a counter attack from a Virginia columnist...pretty silly IMO.

Teel is as close to an unofficial official mouthpiece the ACC has....it's not that same as trotting Coach K out...but it's close.

The article from the Virginia Pilot linked in this thread was penned by Harry Minium.

David Teel writes for Daily Press.


Teel's article
http://www.dailypress.com/sports/teel-bl...y,amp.html

And the bottom line with Teel piece...

At the very least, the conference’s new leadership ought to saddle Louisville with an extended probation, making clear that the very whiff of further scandal will prompt the nuclear option.

So...at most as of right now probation from the league...not expulsion....and with basically entire new leadership fully expect going forward a different outlook from Louisville...time will tell.
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RE: Louisville on the way out?
News conference with Louisville...apparently talked to John Swofford and it was extremely positive....tifwiw
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RE: Louisville on the way out?
Just my opinion...to show good faith to the NCAA and the ACC again completely clean house with Louisville Athletics.
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RE: Louisville on the way out?
No one in the ACC who matters is going to make any decision based on what a sports columnist says. This must be a trolling attempt.
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RE: Louisville on the way out?
One thing for sure....if the ACC were to kick Louisville out for this offense I imagine that UNC should be sweating bullets because comparing their violations to what UNC has done is like comparing a parking ticket to a DUI. Paying players is bad, but decades long systematic academic fraud is much, much worse.
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RE: Louisville on the way out?
(10-04-2017 02:04 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  One thing for sure....if the ACC were to kick Louisville out for this offense I imagine that UNC should be sweating bullets because comparing their violations to what UNC has done is like comparing a parking ticket to a DUI. Paying players is bad, but decades long systematic academic fraud is much, much worse.

Hey, who says UNC wasn't paying players AND giving them fake grades?
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RE: Louisville on the way out?
If Louisville is expelled I heard uconn is going to follow the Louisville path to conference realignment and hire Pitino to start the HFE technique.....that should start an up tick in recruiting....since who doesn't want HFE.
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RE: Louisville on the way out?
(10-04-2017 04:07 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(10-04-2017 02:04 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  One thing for sure....if the ACC were to kick Louisville out for this offense I imagine that UNC should be sweating bullets because comparing their violations to what UNC has done is like comparing a parking ticket to a DUI. Paying players is bad, but decades long systematic academic fraud is much, much worse.

Hey, who says UNC wasn't paying players AND giving them fake grades?

I wouldn't be shocked. I mean you are talking about a school who is trying to rationalize and minimize institutionalized academic fraud.
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RE: Louisville on the way out?
No one is kicking anyone out.

And with regards to this FBI investigation, what is known now is just scratching the surface of this scandal so fans of teams would be wise to stop throwing stones.

That said, around the league, and the entire NCAA, there is quite a bit of self-introspection to be done and a lot of sewage to mop up.
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