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My memory is that Trail warmed up in Michigan before the game. I would like to know more about his injury status. Did anyone who went to the Navy game notice if Trail warmed up?
 
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(09-30-2017 11:48 PM)bearcat72 Wrote:  For those interested? Mo asked the question on the WLW wrap-up post-game of why not Ross Trail? Dan Hoard and Jim agreed, especially with the game out of reach most of the 4th quarter.

I finally saw UC run misdirection in the backfield! It started with the opening drive of the 2nd half. The quarterback actually ran the ball as well a few times this evening. Why run a spread attack with the QB never a threat to run? My opinion.....Denbrock is no offensive guru!!!!!

Hard to get deep into the playbook when it's 3 and out every time. Perhaps if your qb wouldnt throw it ten yards past his receiver every play might get a chance to see those.
 
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(09-30-2017 11:30 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  
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(09-30-2017 10:17 PM)Bcatbog Wrote:  Moore is one issue - but a bigger one is special teams. Last year we saw stupid again and again running out to the 15. Tonight the idiocy returned - capped off with a fumble.

Moore had no chance to bring us back when special teams were in a Bearcat destruction mode.

I give Fickle credit - Geddes was not on KR in the 2nd half. Perhaps a boulder cracked his thick skull to recognize Geddes was not working.

And while I am at it - once we went off tackle in the 2nd half there was some running room . Brilliance after there was nothing open up the middle.

And then - did Gantz commit some mortal sin of Bearcat football? I cannot believe Gantz is not a better place kicker than what we saw tonight.

Special teams killed us tonight.

Gantz is hurt. Wasn't dressed for the game. Our resident kicking guru thinks he's going take a long time to recover if ever.

I didn't see this posted anywhere. Didn't a few weeks ago Luke say they had an open competition between the two that week and that Gantz lost? It's not really a competition if one party can't compete.

I posted in the game thread, so it probably got lost in the shuffle very quickly. Gantz is an open footed kicker, basically using his upper leg muscles complex to open his leg and hit the ball with his first tarpal and insole, rather than the more traditional first tarpal at the laces. The nature of his kicking motion is probably what caused the groin and hip flexor injury last year due to the unnecessary strain that muscle complex is under in his pendulum. If I had to guess, his AT/PT has told him this and he's been completely reworking the way he kicks the ball, and doing that after 10 years kicking it a different way is damn near impossible to do.

As for Pasley, that kids a lost cause. His entire lower half breaks down in a two step approach, so I'm guessing he was a three stepper in high school and no one on the staff who picked him up realized it until after he got on campus (since we had GAs managing the ST recruitment and all...).

Ryan Jones is a KO specialist, and I can already tell, since every ball trails inside his hips, that if you shorten his approach to a field goal kicking one that he would become a hook specialist. KO and FG kicking motion and location of both ball and foot impact is so different that it's extremely hard for some people to manage the difference...and I'm guessing he would be one of them.

As for Cole Smith, I've got no idea. He looked good at the camps I coached at or was present at with my players, but if he's not getting a chance, I'm guessing he was a block guy still transitioning to kicking off ground. Parents out there, if your son or daughter is a kicker and has some talent, move them off a block ASAP.
 
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Ganz missed last year and is a no show so far this year.

1. Did he use a redshirt last year?
2. If not, why not.
3. If so, and he's hurt again, at what point do you say, "Son, this just isn't going to work out. Good luck in your future endeavors"?
 
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I still believe that Trail is looking for a medical redshirt for a transfer. That may not be the official position, but I have no other answer.
 
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Cole Smith is a grayshirt this year. He will enroll and join the team at the semester break...
 
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FWIW, Chad is one of the hardest working, most honest journalists this town has EVER seen - sports or otherwise. When Chad publishes something or tells us something, you can 100% take it to the bank -- period.
 
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Going to add another positive upvote for Chad Brendel for all he and his staff does at BCJ.

Alternatively, he could be like Mr. Groeschen who just copies stuff from BCJ and other social media hours/days afterwards. Also, apparently Groesh is not a fan of Coach Fickell.


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(09-30-2017 09:31 PM)BeerCat Wrote:  
(09-30-2017 09:22 PM)crex043 Wrote:  
(09-30-2017 09:20 PM)BeerCat Wrote:  What's wrong with this? Chad Brendel is media right? I know he focuses mostly on recruiting but damn, the fan base wants to know why Hayden Moore is still playing.

What's the issue here?

You told him to grow a set and your comment overall had a ****** tone. You should be less worried about what other people are doing with their testicles.

So the phrase "grow a set" sets you guys off? Damn. Didn't know it was so inflammatory. I won't use it again. Cross my heart hope to die stick a needle in my eye. Dang.
Hell, I got banned for calling a guy a douche on bearcat talk. Too many feeling on that board

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(10-01-2017 08:16 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(09-30-2017 11:30 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  
(09-30-2017 10:25 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  
(09-30-2017 10:17 PM)Bcatbog Wrote:  Moore is one issue - but a bigger one is special teams. Last year we saw stupid again and again running out to the 15. Tonight the idiocy returned - capped off with a fumble.

Moore had no chance to bring us back when special teams were in a Bearcat destruction mode.

I give Fickle credit - Geddes was not on KR in the 2nd half. Perhaps a boulder cracked his thick skull to recognize Geddes was not working.

And while I am at it - once we went off tackle in the 2nd half there was some running room . Brilliance after there was nothing open up the middle.

And then - did Gantz commit some mortal sin of Bearcat football? I cannot believe Gantz is not a better place kicker than what we saw tonight.

Special teams killed us tonight.

Gantz is hurt. Wasn't dressed for the game. Our resident kicking guru thinks he's going take a long time to recover if ever.

I didn't see this posted anywhere. Didn't a few weeks ago Luke say they had an open competition between the two that week and that Gantz lost? It's not really a competition if one party can't compete.

I posted in the game thread, so it probably got lost in the shuffle very quickly. Gantz is an open footed kicker, basically using his upper leg muscles complex to open his leg and hit the ball with his first tarpal and insole, rather than the more traditional first tarpal at the laces. The nature of his kicking motion is probably what caused the groin and hip flexor injury last year due to the unnecessary strain that muscle complex is under in his pendulum. If I had to guess, his AT/PT has told him this and he's been completely reworking the way he kicks the ball, and doing that after 10 years kicking it a different way is damn near impossible to do.

As for Pasley, that kids a lost cause. His entire lower half breaks down in a two step approach, so I'm guessing he was a three stepper in high school and no one on the staff who picked him up realized it until after he got on campus (since we had GAs managing the ST recruitment and all...).

Ryan Jones is a KO specialist, and I can already tell, since every ball trails inside his hips, that if you shorten his approach to a field goal kicking one that he would become a hook specialist. KO and FG kicking motion and location of both ball and foot impact is so different that it's extremely hard for some people to manage the difference...and I'm guessing he would be one of them.

As for Cole Smith, I've got no idea. He looked good at the camps I coached at or was present at with my players, but if he's not getting a chance, I'm guessing he was a block guy still transitioning to kicking off ground. Parents out there, if your son or daughter is a kicker and has some talent, move them off a block ASAP.

Thanks for this post. I enjoy when you break down kickers.
 
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(10-02-2017 08:16 AM)QSECOFR Wrote:  FWIW, Chad is one of the hardest working, most honest journalists this town has EVER seen - sports or otherwise. When Chad publishes something or tells us something, you can 100% take it to the bank -- period.

I am not a paying member of the site but I have think Chad does an excellent job. His free content and the information he gives gratis have always been 100% correct.

One thing to keep in mind is that sports journalists need to develop relationships with the coaches and staff. Very few people can truly ask HARD questions without impacting their relationship and their sources willingness to share information (I think Marty Brennamen is a great example of someone that can say whatever they want but he is a HOF broadcaster).

Bob Huggins was notorious for shutting down/out journalists/sports casters that would ask hard questions. Chad has to walk a fine line, like he has said this is how he earns his living

(10-02-2017 09:51 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Going to add another positive upvote for Chad Brendel for all he and his staff does at BCJ.

Alternatively, he could be like Mr. Groeschen who just copies stuff from BCJ and other social media hours/days afterwards. Also, apparently Groesh is not a fan of Coach Fickell.


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For me the jury is definitely out on Coach Fick... I said earlier perhaps his 1st game was like Dantonio's vs. Army but sadly his team's performance since has not been stellar. I've seen a few here call him out but most continue to fault the previous Coach. I think Fick is starting to look a lot like the interim Coach at tO$U he was than the latest up and comer...

I am hoping he turns it around quickly because the constant flipping of HCs is not in the best interest of the program.
 
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(10-03-2017 08:20 AM)Crewdogz Wrote:  For me the jury is definitely out on Coach Fick... I said earlier perhaps his 1st game was like Dantonio's vs. Army but sadly his team's performance since has not been stellar. I've seen a few here call him out but most continue to fault the previous Coach. I think Fick is starting to look a lot like the interim Coach at tO$U he was than the latest up and comer...

I am hoping he turns it around quickly because the constant flipping of HCs is not in the best interest of the program.

I get what you're saying, but I think there is a big difference in the level of talent from Dantonio's first team and coach Fickell's. Dantonio had an absolutely loaded senior class and still really struggled early before figuring it out. He also had probably the second best QB in UC history up to that point. The QB situation here is bad. The offensive line is bad as well. The receivers have left a ton of plays on the field that should have been made. I just don't find the situations that similar. I did not know what to expect this year, but to me it's pretty clear that the talent on offense is not where it needs to be...particularly on the offensive line and certainly at QB.
 
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Is the jury out on Fickel, of course he's only 4 games into his career. Ultimately he will be judged on wins and losses but in order to get those wins you need to build all the other things that go into a program. He appears to be doing a phenomenal job in recruiting, strength and conditioning, and promoting the program. For now I trust that the things he's doing to rebuild this program will pay off in years 2-3.
 
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(10-03-2017 08:32 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(10-03-2017 08:20 AM)Crewdogz Wrote:  For me the jury is definitely out on Coach Fick... I said earlier perhaps his 1st game was like Dantonio's vs. Army but sadly his team's performance since has not been stellar. I've seen a few here call him out but most continue to fault the previous Coach. I think Fick is starting to look a lot like the interim Coach at tO$U he was than the latest up and comer...

I am hoping he turns it around quickly because the constant flipping of HCs is not in the best interest of the program.

I get what you're saying, but I think there is a big difference in the level of talent from Dantonio's first team and coach Fickell's. Dantonio had an absolutely loaded senior class and still really struggled early before figuring it out. He also had probably the second best QB in UC history up to that point. The QB situation here is bad. The offensive line is bad as well. The receivers have left a ton of plays on the field that should have been made. I just don't find the situations that similar. I did not know what to expect this year, but to me it's pretty clear that the talent on offense is not where it needs to be...particularly on the offensive line and certainly at QB.

Well said. I know some here despise Butch but watching his teams from year one to years two/three was night and day. I'll reserve judgment on CLF at a minimum until we can see how this entire season plays out; how he and his assistants adjust to the talent they have and how their recruiting progresses. Watching a rebuilding effort isn't fun for most of us as fans who want it all and want it now.
 
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BTW. I'm one who thinks Fickell has done everything right outside of the actual product on the field, but that is absolutely the most crucial component. How he develops talent and builds a cohesive, disciplined team, is how he will ultimately be judged.
 
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(10-03-2017 08:32 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(10-03-2017 08:20 AM)Crewdogz Wrote:  For me the jury is definitely out on Coach Fick... I said earlier perhaps his 1st game was like Dantonio's vs. Army but sadly his team's performance since has not been stellar. I've seen a few here call him out but most continue to fault the previous Coach. I think Fick is starting to look a lot like the interim Coach at tO$U he was than the latest up and comer...

I am hoping he turns it around quickly because the constant flipping of HCs is not in the best interest of the program.

I get what you're saying, but I think there is a big difference in the level of talent from Dantonio's first team and coach Fickell's. Dantonio had an absolutely loaded senior class and still really struggled early before figuring it out. He also had probably the second best QB in UC history up to that point. The QB situation here is bad. The offensive line is bad as well. The receivers have left a ton of plays on the field that should have been made. I just don't find the situations that similar. I did not know what to expect this year, but to me it's pretty clear that the talent on offense is not where it needs to be...particularly on the offensive line and certainly at QB.

This entirely. We have 3 walk ons starting on our O-line. Our QB isn't close to Guidugli and the receivers are slow and have hands made of rocks. Our secondary has been an abomination since 07 (seriously, BK, BJ, AND TT couldn't recruit or develop a solid group of defensive backs).

Fickell knocked every single thing out of the park in the offseason and I think that inflated some expectations, mine included. But its gonna take more than nine months to turn around a four year long slow motion trainwreck. It's become quite clear this is a full blown rebuild, and things aren't always going to go swimmingly during a rebuild. We gotta buck up, trust the process, and support the program.
 
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(10-03-2017 08:32 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(10-03-2017 08:20 AM)Crewdogz Wrote:  For me the jury is definitely out on Coach Fick... I said earlier perhaps his 1st game was like Dantonio's vs. Army but sadly his team's performance since has not been stellar. I've seen a few here call him out but most continue to fault the previous Coach. I think Fick is starting to look a lot like the interim Coach at tO$U he was than the latest up and comer...

I am hoping he turns it around quickly because the constant flipping of HCs is not in the best interest of the program.

I get what you're saying, but I think there is a big difference in the level of talent from Dantonio's first team and coach Fickell's. Dantonio had an absolutely loaded senior class and still really struggled early before figuring it out. He also had probably the second best QB in UC history up to that point. The QB situation here is bad. The offensive line is bad as well. The receivers have left a ton of plays on the field that should have been made. I just don't find the situations that similar. I did not know what to expect this year, but to me it's pretty clear that the talent on offense is not where it needs to be...particularly on the offensive line and certainly at QB.

Would you believe his absolutely loaded senior class was rated #92... he did a great job of developing them. Let's hope Fickell does as well.
 
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(10-03-2017 10:39 AM)Crewdogz Wrote:  
(10-03-2017 08:32 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(10-03-2017 08:20 AM)Crewdogz Wrote:  For me the jury is definitely out on Coach Fick... I said earlier perhaps his 1st game was like Dantonio's vs. Army but sadly his team's performance since has not been stellar. I've seen a few here call him out but most continue to fault the previous Coach. I think Fick is starting to look a lot like the interim Coach at tO$U he was than the latest up and comer...

I am hoping he turns it around quickly because the constant flipping of HCs is not in the best interest of the program.

I get what you're saying, but I think there is a big difference in the level of talent from Dantonio's first team and coach Fickell's. Dantonio had an absolutely loaded senior class and still really struggled early before figuring it out. He also had probably the second best QB in UC history up to that point. The QB situation here is bad. The offensive line is bad as well. The receivers have left a ton of plays on the field that should have been made. I just don't find the situations that similar. I did not know what to expect this year, but to me it's pretty clear that the talent on offense is not where it needs to be...particularly on the offensive line and certainly at QB.

Would you believe his absolutely loaded senior class was rated #92... he did a great job of developing them. Let's hope Fickell does as well.

Wouldn't Minter and his staff been in charge of developing that senior class? It was Dantonios first season after all.
 
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