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RE: Puerto Rico
This is going to be worse than Katrina.
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(09-26-2017 04:52 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  as costs of repairs continue to rise faster than the rate of inflation (hence pot hole patching and bridge failure as the current norm), in what fashion does salvaging that island other than for military benefit????

at some point, people just need to wake the motherfuckkkk up and figure out how the USD and capitalism work in tandem.....

you just can't build shite and expect mother nature to just up and say, "good jobbber"

now you know why I gave every econ prof the shite.....'cuz they were full of it.....

people are so fk'n stupid.....

3 million residents from Puerto Rico. Might be future residents of Florida, Texas, etc.
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RE: Puerto Rico
(09-27-2017 06:13 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 04:52 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  as costs of repairs continue to rise faster than the rate of inflation (hence pot hole patching and bridge failure as the current norm), in what fashion does salvaging that island other than for military benefit????

at some point, people just need to wake the motherfuckkkk up and figure out how the USD and capitalism work in tandem.....

you just can't build shite and expect mother nature to just up and say, "good jobbber"

now you know why I gave every econ prof the shite.....'cuz they were full of it.....

people are so fk'n stupid.....

3 million residents from Puerto Rico. Might be future residents of Florida, Texas, etc.

just like Katrina grew the population centers of many....I had a house on the market for almost a year after my divorce.....Kat sold my house....

I can't cite the actual number or percentage, but Kat was a boon for Hattiesburg.....that I can tell you....

an isle is destined to fail if in a tropical zone.....it's no different than building on coastlines in the same zone(s)....

that's just dayum common sense....
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RE: Puerto Rico
Puerto Rico needs to transition into a resort, adventure, and agriculture destination. Even though the island is very mountainous, there is an abundant of agricultural land that can be utilized that isn't coastal.

With the reduction in population, Puerto Rico has the opportunity to bring in new money and revamp its identity.

Federal and state retirees looking for an island destination which they can use their medical insurance should be a tool to attract new money. Creating new hospitals near these resorts and watching them expand could be exactly what the island needs to recover.
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(09-27-2017 06:13 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 04:52 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  as costs of repairs continue to rise faster than the rate of inflation (hence pot hole patching and bridge failure as the current norm), in what fashion does salvaging that island other than for military benefit????

at some point, people just need to wake the motherfuckkkk up and figure out how the USD and capitalism work in tandem.....

you just can't build shite and expect mother nature to just up and say, "good jobbber"

now you know why I gave every econ prof the shite.....'cuz they were full of it.....

people are so fk'n stupid.....

3 million residents from Puerto Rico. Might be future residents of Florida, Texas, etc.

If Puerto Ricans are going to move to the mainland, they will be moving towards family and friends. Think of the states and cities with the highest population of Puerto Ricans

With that in mind, think NYC and surrounding counties along with NJ, Philly, and Florida.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Ric...ted_States
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(09-26-2017 08:23 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 10:17 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Every one is clearly aware that getting help to an island is way more complex than a contiguous state. That's not the point.

Right there are a lot of brown people on that island, clearly thats why time is derelict in helping them amiright... I mean he passed a disaster declaration six days ago and asked congress to get something on his desk to help them... But really he's just dragging his feet because $NonWhitePeople.

Quote:It could be just appearances

No tom, it's deliberately trying to sell a narrative despite the facts...

I'm reading today that it will take likely until mid-October to get the needed financial aid to PR. That seem timely to you?
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(09-27-2017 08:35 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 08:23 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 10:17 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Every one is clearly aware that getting help to an island is way more complex than a contiguous state. That's not the point.
Right there are a lot of brown people on that island, clearly thats why time is derelict in helping them amiright... I mean he passed a disaster declaration six days ago and asked congress to get something on his desk to help them... But really he's just dragging his feet because $NonWhitePeople.
Quote:It could be just appearances
No tom, it's deliberately trying to sell a narrative despite the facts...
I'm reading today that it will take likely until mid-October to get the needed financial aid to PR. That seem timely to you?

How would you do it quicker? Should we just have airplanes fly over and dump dollar bills out the doors?

People have no concept how difficult it is to do even seemingly simple things when everything is destroyed.
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RE: Puerto Rico
(09-27-2017 08:35 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 08:23 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 10:17 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Every one is clearly aware that getting help to an island is way more complex than a contiguous state. That's not the point.

Right there are a lot of brown people on that island, clearly thats why time is derelict in helping them amiright... I mean he passed a disaster declaration six days ago and asked congress to get something on his desk to help them... But really he's just dragging his feet because $NonWhitePeople.

Quote:It could be just appearances

No tom, it's deliberately trying to sell a narrative despite the facts...

I'm reading today that it will take likely until mid-October to get the needed financial aid to PR. That seem timely to you?

Tom, the island is trashed. Giving them a debit card isn't going to help anything until all of the trash, and debris, and trees everywhere gets cleaned up. FEMA, National Guard, Coast Guard are getting ports open, food, water, cots, blankets, medicine, fuel/generators (to keep hospitals running) to the Island. Lots of stuff needs to be done before PR can use money to make an attempt to rebuild some of the infrastructure.
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What I read was not that it would not get there because of issues in PR itself, but rather issues in DC. To me, that's a problem. We shall see, hopefully it won't take that long.
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(09-27-2017 08:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(09-27-2017 08:35 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 08:23 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 10:17 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Every one is clearly aware that getting help to an island is way more complex than a contiguous state. That's not the point.
Right there are a lot of brown people on that island, clearly thats why time is derelict in helping them amiright... I mean he passed a disaster declaration six days ago and asked congress to get something on his desk to help them... But really he's just dragging his feet because $NonWhitePeople.
Quote:It could be just appearances
No tom, it's deliberately trying to sell a narrative despite the facts...
I'm reading today that it will take likely until mid-October to get the needed financial aid to PR. That seem timely to you?

How would you do it quicker? Should we just have airplanes fly over and dump dollar bills out the doors?

People have no concept how difficult it is to do even seemingly simple things when everything is destroyed.

it's like they expect, "click heels, and all is well".....what a pile o' dipshites....

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(09-27-2017 08:49 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  What I read was not that it would not get there because of issues in PR itself, but rather issues in DC. To me, that's a problem. We shall see, hopefully it won't take that long.

have you even given thought to how much USD can be made....

do you not think the butter is being churned as quickly as possible????

even you're not that stupid....
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Just saw a tweet that the Comfort is now en route to PR. Good.
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trump is still refusing to temporarily lift the Jones Act. His logic, businesses don't want it lifted.

So, he's basically choosing business over Americans.

Nice.

Some information on the act itself:
The Jones Act, the obscure 1920 shipping regulation strangling Puerto Rico, explained
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Not the most unbiased source, but some more information regarding problems with the Jones Act from Captain Paul Watson of Sea Shepherd:

Quote:SEA SHEPHERD IS BARRED FROM BRINGING AID TO PUERTO RICO
Amazing. President Trump says his response to Puerto Rico has been slow because Puerto Rico is in the middle of an ocean ("a very big ocean").

Sea Shepherd's ship the JOHN PAUL DEJORIA is unloading relief supplies on the dock in Dominica this morning. The Caribbean is not a "bigly" ocean. It is a sea.

The JOHN PAUL DEJORIA departed from Key West two days before Hurricane Irma hit, bound for Cancun, Mexico. In response to the damage to the islands in the Caribbean, our ship left Cancun for Curacao to load supplies. From there to Martinique to load more supplies to be unloaded today in Dominica. The next project is to load supplies for Antigua and Barbuda.

Trump has cited the Jones Act that prohibits non-U.S. flag vessels from bringing supplies to Puerto Rico. This means that Sea Shepherd is prohibited from landing supplies in Puerto Rico. He waived the Jones Act for Texas and Florida but not for Puerto Rico.

Ironically although the JOHN PAUL DEJORIA flies the flag of Barbados the ship is the former USCG patrol vessel Block Island, which means American built.

Sea Shepherd's Operation Good Pirates of the Caribbean will be aiding Dominica, Antigua and Barbuda and Sint Maarten. Because of U.S. law we cannot aid Puerto Rico.
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Jones Act kept us from availing ourselves of some assistance with the BP blowout disaster.
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The idea that the "Jones Act" is keeping supplies from PR is ludicrous, ridiculous, and a deflection from the point that there is debris in water impeding shipping, there is no power at the ports to power the cranes to unload supplies, and there is damaged infrastructure keeping supplies from being delivered.

But instead, the far-left terrorist organization Sea Shepard blames Trump.

Land your stupid-ass Batman boat on the beach and unload supplies, Captain Wilson. You know damn well no one is going to stop you. What your press release is saying is that you value the public relations of blaming racist-sexist-classist-ableist-cisgenderist-NaziHaliburton-who-is-literally-Hitler Trump over actually helping the citizen of Puerto Rico.


F U and the whale you ran over trying to get press, Sea Shepard
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(09-27-2017 08:35 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 08:23 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 10:17 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Every one is clearly aware that getting help to an island is way more complex than a contiguous state. That's not the point.

Right there are a lot of brown people on that island, clearly thats why time is derelict in helping them amiright... I mean he passed a disaster declaration six days ago and asked congress to get something on his desk to help them... But really he's just dragging his feet because $NonWhitePeople.

Quote:It could be just appearances

No tom, it's deliberately trying to sell a narrative despite the facts...

I'm reading today that it will take likely until mid-October to get the needed financial aid to PR. That seem timely to you?

Who's that on? does Trump run the legislature?
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Business is more important than people. Nice.
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(09-27-2017 05:14 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  The idea that the "Jones Act" is keeping supplies from PR is ludicrous, ridiculous, and a deflection from the point that there is debris in water impeding shipping, there is no power at the ports to power the cranes to unload supplies, and there is damaged infrastructure keeping supplies from being delivered.

But instead, the far-left terrorist organization Sea Shepard blames Trump.

Land your stupid-ass Batman boat on the beach and unload supplies, Captain Wilson. You know damn well no one is going to stop you. What your press release is saying is that you value the public relations of blaming racist-sexist-classist-ableist-cisgenderist-NaziHaliburton-who-is-literally-Hitler Trump over actually helping the citizen of Puerto Rico.


F U and the whale you ran over trying to get press, Sea Shepard

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(09-26-2017 08:54 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Has the trump administration been derelict in properly responding to this growing disaster?

It's hard to know since trump seems more consumed with the NFL and congress is consumed with attempt number 1,584,568 to repeal and replace the ACA.

Go...

Just because he's been quoted in the media about an overblown story doesn't mean he doesn't have other priorities.
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