(09-27-2017 05:39 PM)ArQ Wrote:  

(09-27-2017 09:02 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  FOX Business‏Verified account @FoxBusiness · 3m3 minutes ago

#BreakingNews: Report: Louisville basetball coach Rick Pitino to be fired today

Nope. It is not true. Coach Pitino is on leave with pay.

And I believe Rick is shocked and doesn't know anything about it. The assistant coaches involved will be fired, not him.

Well bless your heart.

lol.

(09-27-2017 05:39 PM)ArQ Wrote:  

(09-27-2017 09:02 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  FOX Business‏Verified account @FoxBusiness · 3m3 minutes ago

#BreakingNews: Report: Louisville basetball coach Rick Pitino to be fired today

Nope. It is not true. Coach Pitino is on leave with pay.

And I believe Rick is shocked and doesn't know anything about it. The assistant coaches involved will be fired, not him.

No, he's not. He's on leave without pay. Jurich is on leave with pay. Did you watch the presser today?

So, if I have this right, the money to pay off coaches and athletes came from Adidas. Can we suppose that they reported these payments to the IRS, as they are required to do? Given that the FBI seems to have hard evidence of crimes committed on Adidas' behalf, would they be able to subpoena those tax records?

That would either tell them which other coaches and recruits are involved (and may have neglected to report that income), or that Adidas (and not just one of their employees) has committed a crime by not reporting the payments.

Once this starts to unravel, it would be shocking if it doesn't involve most major college programs and all the apparel companies. How can the NCAA effectively punish all the schools that would be involved without killing their favorite golden goose?

Bama per Forde is next University with compliance issue. Assistant coach resigns. Nike school:



Pat Forde @YahooForde
"... basketball operations.As a result, we have accepted the resignation effective today of Kobie Baker, a men’s basketball administrator

https://herosports.com/college-basketbal...rmour-a7a7

Complete list of who are sponsored by all three major apparel companies. They did leave some schools off the list like Coast Guard who is sponsored by Adidas.

(09-27-2017 09:48 AM)Wolfman Wrote:  

(09-27-2017 07:52 AM)ArQ Wrote:  

(09-27-2017 06:23 AM)miko33 Wrote:  CFB makes more money than CBB, so no doubt it extends to all the revenue sports. That plus the difference in admission standards for athletes vs regular students is why I no longer watch.

It is all about sneakers. No one buys football shoes unless you are a football player. But a lot of people, especially young men under 35, wear basketball shoes daily. And sneakers have become collectable items bearing high price.

It's more than sneakers. It's about jerseys, t-shirts, hats, and all sorts of apparel. Adidas makes apparel for dozens of sports. And yes, albeit a smaller number, some people will buy Adidas sneakers because their team wears Adidas cleats and jerseys.

If a team does well apparel sales skyrocket. Fans buy t-shirts for wining a rivalry game, wining the division, going to a bowl, winning a bowl, making the sweet-16, making the elite-8, making the final four... It is a gold mine for the company with the licensing rights.

If you have the potential, it is to Adidas advantage to get you to a school where they have "a guy" that will push you toward a specific agent. That agent will push you toward a sponsorship contract with Adidas. That is true of any sport.

Agree wrt BB, but no doubt college football has plenty of its own skeletons in it's closets that would see even more assistant coaches hauled off to jail while the head coaches play the ignorance card.

(09-27-2017 06:48 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Bama per Forde is next University with compliance issue. Assistant coach resigns. Nike school:



Pat Forde @YahooForde
"... basketball operations.As a result, we have accepted the resignation effective today of Kobie Baker, a men’s basketball administrator

That's not their biggest EYBL connection during the period under investigation.

Bring on the bammer death penalty!

More **** is coming down tomorrow. Rumors are Alabama basketball is in deep doo-doo.

(09-27-2017 07:51 PM)Rube Dali Wrote:  More **** is coming down tomorrow. Rumors are Alabama basketball is in deep doo-doo.

I am beginning to wonder if Alabama football players are also involved? I do not see Alabama basketball as a strong basketball school, but their football is at the top every day.

(09-27-2017 06:12 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-27-2017 05:39 PM)ArQ Wrote:  

(09-27-2017 09:02 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  FOX Business‏Verified account @FoxBusiness · 3m3 minutes ago

#BreakingNews: Report: Louisville basetball coach Rick Pitino to be fired today

Nope. It is not true. Coach Pitino is on leave with pay.

And I believe Rick is shocked and doesn't know anything about it. The assistant coaches involved will be fired, not him.

No, he's not. He's on leave without pay. Jurich is on leave with pay. Did you watch the presser today?

Pitino is on administrative leave without pay & Jurich is on administrative leave with pay. The Interim President @ the UofL doesn't have the authority to fire them, that's why he asked Jurich to fire Pitino on multiple occasions. The board will have to meet & vote on their termination. It was announced that the board unanimously supported the interim president decision today. It's also in Pitino contract that he is given a 10 day notice of termination to allow him to present evidence of his innocence. This is just legal formality.


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https://www.teamspeedkills.com/2017/9/27...on-scandal


Several people in Alabama's basketball department resigned. Make that one, but others might follow suit. Someone resigning means that person must be guilty of something.

(09-27-2017 07:51 PM)Rube Dali Wrote:  More **** is coming down tomorrow. Rumors are Alabama basketball is in deep doo-doo.

This is regarding the Oliver Robinson case. Oliver, a state rep, took bribes to derail EPA Superfund investigations in his district and this could be an explosive case pulling in many of the state's coal-related power brokers. But it's only got slight basketball connections:

Oliver played for UAB (he was the First Blazer) and dropped 23 on Virginia in the NCAA's to beat Ralph Sampson. Luther Strange, one-time backup center for Tulane, may also be implicated.

The basketball case has been run out of the Souther District of NY. This one is Middle District of Alabama.

(09-27-2017 06:34 PM)ken d Wrote:  So, if I have this right, the money to pay off coaches and athletes came from Adidas. Can we suppose that they reported these payments to the IRS, as they are required to do? Given that the FBI seems to have hard evidence of crimes committed on Adidas' behalf, would they be able to subpoena those tax records?

That would either tell them which other coaches and recruits are involved (and may have neglected to report that income), or that Adidas (and not just one of their employees) has committed a crime by not reporting the payments.

Once this starts to unravel, it would be shocking if it doesn't involve most major college programs and all the apparel companies. How can the NCAA effectively punish all the schools that would be involved without killing their favorite golden goose?

If this involves all the shoe companies, the colleges are going to have to take a hard look at how they do things, especially if a bunch more coaches get indicted.

(09-27-2017 08:52 PM)58-56 Wrote:  

(09-27-2017 07:51 PM)Rube Dali Wrote:  More **** is coming down tomorrow. Rumors are Alabama basketball is in deep doo-doo.

This is regarding the Oliver Robinson case. Oliver, a state rep, took bribes to derail EPA Superfund investigations in his district and this could be an explosive case pulling in many of the state's coal-related power brokers. But it's only got slight basketball connections:

Oliver played for UAB (he was the First Blazer) and dropped 23 on Virginia in the NCAA's to beat Ralph Sampson. Luther Strange, one-time backup center for Tulane, may also be implicated.

The basketball case has been run out of the Souther District of NY. This one is Northern District of Alabama.

FIFY

(09-27-2017 06:53 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  They did leave some schools off the list like Coast Guard who is sponsored by Adidas.

The latest ESPN report on the wiretaps out of Louisville reads like SMU Football in the 1980's. "I know we just got caught cheating, but we have to pay this players family money, so we're going to have to be real quiet about it"

Unfortunately, the NCAA won't go down that road again. I could see a postseason ban heading Louisville's way though.

Side note: Bama is cheating again? Who woulda thunk it.

The core problem with the NCAA is that the revenue aspect of college athletics inherently conflicts with the core purpose of a university in many cases. When individuals have a clear incentive to bend the rules for wins and money at the expense of educational and moral integrity, you get situations like this inside and out of college athletics. It's time to abandon the pretense of amateur athletics and make the pro leagues take responsibility for their sports, the job of a college is to teach students, not serve as an exploitation factory for young athletea.

(09-27-2017 08:26 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I am beginning to wonder if Alabama football players are also involved? I do not see Alabama basketball as a strong basketball school, but their football is at the top every day.

That's actually a reason to think Alabama football isn't involved: Their basketball is a mediocre program, doesn't naturally get top recruits, so a program like that might feel the need to resort to breaking the rules to move up.

Alabama football, like Kentucky and Duke basketball, doesn't have that problem. Top recruits want to come there, so they don't need to cheat to get them.

That doesn't mean that top programs don't cheat, we know that they do (e.g., in the past 15 years, Alabama, Ohio State and USC in football), but it does mean they have less incentive to do so than lesser programs.

To me, the schools to be most suspicious of are schools that historically weren't much, but then suddenly make a big leap up in terms of quality of recruits and results on the field, e.g. schools like Baylor and Ole Miss in football, and Louisville as an overall athletic department.

(09-28-2017 07:45 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-27-2017 08:26 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I am beginning to wonder if Alabama football players are also involved? I do not see Alabama basketball as a strong basketball school, but their football is at the top every day.

That's actually a reason to think Alabama football isn't involved: Their basketball is a mediocre program, doesn't naturally get top recruits, so a program like that might feel the need to resort to breaking the rules to move up.

Alabama football, like Kentucky and Duke basketball, doesn't have that problem. Top recruits want to come there, so they don't need to cheat to get them.

That doesn't mean that top programs don't cheat, we know that they do (e.g., in the past 15 years, Alabama, Ohio State and USC in football), but it does mean they have less incentive to do so than lesser programs.

To me, the schools to be most suspicious of are schools that historically weren't much, but then suddenly make a big leap up in terms of quality of recruits and results on the field, e.g. schools like Baylor and Ole Miss in football, and Louisville as an overall athletic department.

The program might have less incentive to cheat, but the individual assistant coach is under enormous pressure to deliver better and better recruits. How do you convince a five-star QB to ride the bench?