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We have to find the balance between paying for what we want and paying for what we have. Currently, we are way below both of those benchmarks in what we pay Clark.

Many people were calling UAB a two win team coming out of our hiatus. We have hit two wins and are poised to at least double that. Not to mention what he did before the program was killed, and what he's done in the two years that we have been waiting to play again. He was able to recruit without games to play, train and prepare those guys for D1 competition without having them play anyone but themselves, and spearhead the efforts to raise money, build facilities, garner community support, and get the ball rolling on some very important partnerships. Outside of on the field results, does any other coach in CUSA (or football for that matter) have the resume of Coach Clark?

With all the acomplishments of Coach. Sure it should be no problem on either side. Coach has made this an attractive Job once again. Just think it about like this if we could of paid Jimbo with what we had then he would of been their (HERE) know with the new, it just got a little more attractive, know all they have to do is keep coach. (His worth just went up) they will be calling for him. It was a team effort to get this far its going to take a team effort to keep him for the Duration. A lot of season left after these next two games. The projection on home wins is good so they say and then we have a playable schedule, would look for a Hungry Team to come out. Theirs a saying show me once and I will be fooled show me twice and and, I won't be fooled again.

(09-26-2017 12:13 PM)iam4uab Wrote:  We have to find the balance between paying for what we want and paying for what we have. Currently, we are way below both of those benchmarks in what we pay Clark.

Many people were calling UAB a two win team coming out of our hiatus. We have hit two wins and are poised to at least double that. Not to mention what he did before the program was killed, and what he's done in the two years that we have been waiting to play again. He was able to recruit without games to play, train and prepare those guys for D1 competition without having them play anyone but themselves, and spearhead the efforts to raise money, build facilities, garner community support, and get the ball rolling on some very important partnerships. Outside of on the field results, does any other coach in CUSA (or football for that matter) have the resume of Coach Clark?

According to this thread, that two win projection is a top quarter of the league.

UAB football is going to have to prove it can sustain the attendance it has had after two games in order for serious raises to be considered. You may not like it, but it's the truth.

Fans can be certain that Clark (and his agents) have the ear of the important money people that made UAB football's return possible. They, in turn, have Clark's ear as to what money he can realistically expect to be offered. UAB - the public school -has about the same input into these contract negotiations as other universities in this state - almost ZERO.

It is essentially big money supporters dealing with big money coaches. Had UAB's Athletic Dept. had the support of these money folks years ago, the BOT would not have been able to forbid them getting onto that plane to sign Jimbo Fisher. Back then, all the big money was on only one side - theirs. Money talks and money listens to money.

Considering the only other time we had over 40,000 was a free ticket Ruben-a-thon I would say we are on our way or sustainability - not the UAB department kind.

Snicker.

I think it is too soon for a raise.

10,000 season tickets (just for starters)

people who think that this process is going to be normal havent been paying attention.

True. & people who think that the good guys will get caught with their pants down haven't been paying attention either.

(09-26-2017 12:40 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(09-26-2017 12:13 PM)iam4uab Wrote:  We have to find the balance between paying for what we want and paying for what we have. Currently, we are way below both of those benchmarks in what we pay Clark.

Many people were calling UAB a two win team coming out of our hiatus. We have hit two wins and are poised to at least double that. Not to mention what he did before the program was killed, and what he's done in the two years that we have been waiting to play again. He was able to recruit without games to play, train and prepare those guys for D1 competition without having them play anyone but themselves, and spearhead the efforts to raise money, build facilities, garner community support, and get the ball rolling on some very important partnerships. Outside of on the field results, does any other coach in CUSA (or football for that matter) have the resume of Coach Clark?

According to this thread, that two win projection is a top quarter of the league.

UAB football is going to have to prove it can sustain the attendance it has had after two games in order for serious raises to be considered. You may not like it, but it's the truth.

Well, unreasonable expectations have been the name of the game for quite some time.

I think his people are very smart with the timing of this publicity. He can do no wrong right now, and should ask for the moon. Negative publicity will surround any attempts to give him less than what he wants.

They will shoot high, of course, and the school will shoot low. He'll end up getting what he really wants. He's got some heavy hitters on his side right now, and they know how to play the game...and they have the upper hand right now.

(09-26-2017 01:09 PM)BlazerMatt Wrote:  people who think that this process is going to be normal havent been paying attention.

Well, I think Coach deserves a increase to show support, but if theirs is a problem, can't the raise be baised on stipulations, if this occurs and this occurs then the increase will be their with a show of support with a base increase remember coach sighned a contract under circumstances then. Its a entirely different Ball Game Know. Really all this talk should be for after the season. Its a little early in the season to get this and that but the question has bean raised. So the talk must start since the question has been raised, Hopefully coaches concentration is on the next two games and the remainder of a early season and getting people in the seats and recruits.

Everyone who is recruiting against us is going to point at Clark only being under contract for two more years and saying "Hell, you don't even know if he's still going to be there. They might shut down again, who knows, and there is no reason to think that he won't take a better job than UAB if someone makes him an offer. No contract, there's nothing holding him there. Now our coach, he's under contract for five years and you got to know he's not going anywhere." You know how the recruiting game is played.

We not only would not have that nice new football building without Clark, we would not have *football* without Clark. If the BoT and the Watzis can find a way to make him angry enough to go away, they take a huge step toward pushing UAB back toward mediocracy.

We were helpless to stop what we knew was coming when the shut down loomed. We will by God be more proactive this time around. The Vocal Few are not as few as they once were, and are far better organized and funded. If it comes down to Clark or Ingram, I know who wins the popularity contest. Ingram has a job to do, yes - but he is supposed to be acting in the best interests of UAB Athletics. If he bungles the deal with Clark and we lose him, the precipitous drop in donations that the Campaign for UAB suffered will look like El Dorado compared to the money that Athletic donations will lose as a result. Voting with your wallet is a whole lot easier when you do it by *not* giving money.

Ingram is not the last word in negotiating Clarks contract. He is going to face the same handcuffs that Mackin faced.

But by God, he will get more blame than Mackin ever got.

No reason to be worried. After all, in an alternate universe:

Jimbo Fisher was hired and built the program, getting UAB moved up to the AAC with its peers.

An OCS was built.

Carol Garrison led the university into a new era of unprecedented growth with a vibrant Honors College and increased accolades.

Bill Clark was hired from JSU and, within a matter of three years, had UAB as a mainstay of the AP poll, with an SEC upset under his belt.

Yeah I’m sure Coach Clark will get a big raise. Nothing to see here.

(09-26-2017 02:21 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  Everyone who is recruiting against us is going to point at Clark only being under contract for two more years and saying "Hell, you don't even know if he's still going to be there. They might shut down again, who knows, and there is no reason to think that he won't take a better job than UAB if someone makes him an offer. No contract, there's nothing holding him there. Now our coach, he's under contract for five years and you got to know he's not going anywhere." You know how the recruiting game is played.

We not only would not have that nice new football building without Clark, we would not have *football* without Clark. If the BoT and the Watzis can find a way to make him angry enough to go away, they take a huge step toward pushing UAB back toward mediocracy.

We were helpless to stop what we knew was coming when the shut down loomed. We will by God be more proactive this time around. The Vocal Few are not as few as they once were, and are far better organized and funded. If it comes down to Clark or Ingram, I know who wins the popularity contest. Ingram has a job to do, yes - but he is supposed to be acting in the best interests of UAB Athletics. If he bungles the deal with Clark and we lose him, the precipitous drop in donations that the Campaign for UAB suffered will look like El Dorado compared to the money that Athletic donations will lose as a result. Voting with your wallet is a whole lot easier when you do it by *not* giving money.

Auburn looks like they will be AD hunting soon. As well as Fumbles beloved UT . I'd sure hate to lose him, but ...sigh... that's life in the G5.

(09-26-2017 02:28 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  Ingram is not the last word in negotiating Clarks contract. He is going to face the same handcuffs that Mackin faced.

But by God, he will get more blame than Mackin ever got.

Mackin was never hired to chase off the coach he was supposed to be negotiating a new contract for.

(09-26-2017 03:10 PM)BlazerMatt Wrote:  

(09-26-2017 02:28 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  Ingram is not the last word in negotiating Clarks contract. He is going to face the same handcuffs that Mackin faced.

But by God, he will get more blame than Mackin ever got.

Mackin was never hired to chase off the coach he was supposed to be negotiating a new contract for.

Oh look! Black helicopters

(09-26-2017 03:34 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(09-26-2017 03:10 PM)BlazerMatt Wrote:  

(09-26-2017 02:28 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  Ingram is not the last word in negotiating Clarks contract. He is going to face the same handcuffs that Mackin faced.

But by God, he will get more blame than Mackin ever got.

Mackin was never hired to chase off the coach he was supposed to be negotiating a new contract for.

Oh look! Black helicopters

Are you trying to be obtuse or are you really just that clueless as to the situation here?

I know that answer.