(09-24-2017 10:13 PM)Sellular1 Wrote:  NFL sucks. Just like the NBA. Whiney entitled crybabies

You know who the President is right? I mean that was his entire shtick.

(09-25-2017 10:55 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 10:53 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 10:47 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 10:32 AM)pesik Wrote:  my 2 cents: both sides are whinny.....

"dont bring politics into football"...then dont look at them during the anthem...you are acting like they are being political during the game..

you complaining about it just empowers the movement. trumps tweets trying to disparage them is the sole reason this protest is still alive...

every kind of protest will be uncomfortable in some way..thats the point of a protest.....id rather it be a guy for 1min on the corner of a stadium by himself kneeling, than a highway blockade causing a 100mil highway block of traffic

and a side note how is the confederate flag not disrespectful to the american flag (which is used by people complaining about kneeling )..its a secession flag that tried to destroy america, they literally started a war to destroy america as we know it, how can you waive it by the american..why are we picking and choosing whats disrespectful
i dont care about the Confederate flag..i dont care about kneeling...what bothers me is making a big deal out of either

#1. These are entitled d-bags. Stand for the anthem. Nobody even knows why you're kneeling expect looking like d-bags. Is it Trump, is it police, is it they have CTE and can't stand?

#2. Why are you bringing the Confederate flag into this? I never have flown or displayed a confederate flag like 99% of the people. As far as I know they aren't doing the Confederate anthem or waving the flag.

nascar comments were made, where confederation flags are

and the kneeling is against police brutality, its kaps response to all the stuff that happened last year..he has said it in interview atleast 20 times..but those who oppose dont care to listen

i dont care either way....people will always protest..this is just a fact of life....like i said id rather it be for 1 min of game i regular dont watch anyways...that it be a mil long highway stop... kneeling doesnt affect my life in any way shape or form

Don't be surprised when the NFL ratings start dropping then. Just because you feel a certain way doesn't mean others don't. A lot of us are fed up with the political bullsh!t.

Just because YOU feel a certain way doesn't mean others don't. A lot of us are fed up with this fake bought and paid for "patriotism".

(09-25-2017 08:07 AM)NTTHOR Wrote:  and of course, espn has an article about him kinda in a negative light. some of his teammates thought he was gonna be with them inside, james harrison specifically mentioned this. sad sad times....people want the right to do things, but they don't like when others go against what they want to do.

and of course its OK to take a knee because the players have the legal right. But he is shamed for expressing his patriotic belief. Disgusting.

(09-25-2017 01:21 PM)taximan1 Wrote:  As an out of market Eagles fan, and Temple fan, I took the big step today. Cancelled my NFL Sunday Ticket. At least went out with a dramatic win over the Giants (thanks Memphis). And also unfollowed on twitter and cancelled my OwlScoop forum membership, as that moderator now does nothing but rant about Trump and politics.

I refuse to spend my money on sports and entertainment and have politics jump in. Thats why I pay for sports and entertainment.... as an escape from that crap.

Goodbye NFL, college is a much better product anyway. Good bye John DiC. and Owlscoop. take your politics somewhere else.

You know most of those college players feel the same way as their NFL counterparts and will be in the NFL soon doing the same thing right?

(09-25-2017 01:40 PM)taximan1 Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 08:07 AM)NTTHOR Wrote:  and of course, espn has an article about him kinda in a negative light. some of his teammates thought he was gonna be with them inside, james harrison specifically mentioned this. sad sad times....people want the right to do things, but they don't like when others go against what they want to do.

and of course its OK to take a knee because the players have the legal right. But he is shamed for expressing his patriotic belief. Disgusting.

He's being shamed because they ALL agreed not to go out so no one would be forced to take a side and then he went out and made it look like he was the only one who wanted to be out there. He made the rest of the team look bad by showing them up. Thats the point, but i'm not shocked you don't get that.

(09-25-2017 01:39 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 10:55 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 10:53 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 10:47 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 10:32 AM)pesik Wrote:  my 2 cents: both sides are whinny.....

"dont bring politics into football"...then dont look at them during the anthem...you are acting like they are being political during the game..

you complaining about it just empowers the movement. trumps tweets trying to disparage them is the sole reason this protest is still alive...

every kind of protest will be uncomfortable in some way..thats the point of a protest.....id rather it be a guy for 1min on the corner of a stadium by himself kneeling, than a highway blockade causing a 100mil highway block of traffic

and a side note how is the confederate flag not disrespectful to the american flag (which is used by people complaining about kneeling )..its a secession flag that tried to destroy america, they literally started a war to destroy america as we know it, how can you waive it by the american..why are we picking and choosing whats disrespectful
i dont care about the Confederate flag..i dont care about kneeling...what bothers me is making a big deal out of either

#1. These are entitled d-bags. Stand for the anthem. Nobody even knows why you're kneeling expect looking like d-bags. Is it Trump, is it police, is it they have CTE and can't stand?

#2. Why are you bringing the Confederate flag into this? I never have flown or displayed a confederate flag like 99% of the people. As far as I know they aren't doing the Confederate anthem or waving the flag.

nascar comments were made, where confederation flags are

and the kneeling is against police brutality, its kaps response to all the stuff that happened last year..he has said it in interview atleast 20 times..but those who oppose dont care to listen

i dont care either way....people will always protest..this is just a fact of life....like i said id rather it be for 1 min of game i regular dont watch anyways...that it be a mil long highway stop... kneeling doesnt affect my life in any way shape or form

Don't be surprised when the NFL ratings start dropping then. Just because you feel a certain way doesn't mean others don't. A lot of us are fed up with the political bullsh!t.

Just because YOU feel a certain way doesn't mean others don't. A lot of us are fed up with this fake bought and paid for "patriotism".

Dear confused, paid for by who? No one is paying me. Who is paying you, George Soros? Of course, I get it now. You're afraid of losing your paychecks.

(09-25-2017 01:43 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 01:40 PM)taximan1 Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 08:07 AM)NTTHOR Wrote:  and of course, espn has an article about him kinda in a negative light. some of his teammates thought he was gonna be with them inside, james harrison specifically mentioned this. sad sad times....people want the right to do things, but they don't like when others go against what they want to do.

and of course its OK to take a knee because the players have the legal right. But he is shamed for expressing his patriotic belief. Disgusting.

He's being shamed because they ALL agreed not to go out so no one would be forced to take a side and then he went out and made it look like he was the only one who wanted to be out there. He made the rest of the team look bad by showing them up. Thats the point, but i'm not shocked you don't get that.

Sounds like not ALL agreed apparently. I personally find it encouraging that Ali had the moral courage to do what he felt was right. Speaks well of him which is also not a surprise given what he had done before this past weekend.

(09-25-2017 01:43 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 01:40 PM)taximan1 Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 08:07 AM)NTTHOR Wrote:  and of course, espn has an article about him kinda in a negative light. some of his teammates thought he was gonna be with them inside, james harrison specifically mentioned this. sad sad times....people want the right to do things, but they don't like when others go against what they want to do.

and of course its OK to take a knee because the players have the legal right. But he is shamed for expressing his patriotic belief. Disgusting.

He's being shamed because they ALL agreed not to go out so no one would be forced to take a side and then he went out and made it look like he was the only one who wanted to be out there. He made the rest of the team look bad by showing them up. Thats the point, but i'm not shocked you don't get that.

I get it. I'm glad he did it.

(09-25-2017 01:21 PM)taximan1 Wrote:  As an out of market Eagles fan, and Temple fan, I took the big step today. Cancelled my NFL Sunday Ticket. At least went out with a dramatic win over the Giants (thanks Memphis). And also unfollowed on twitter and cancelled my OwlScoop forum membership, as that moderator now does nothing but rant about Trump and politics.

I refuse to spend my money on sports and entertainment and have politics jump in. Thats why I pay for sports and entertainment.... as an escape from that crap.

Goodbye NFL, college is a much better product anyway. Good bye John DiC. and Owlscoop. take your politics somewhere else.

(09-25-2017 01:42 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 01:21 PM)taximan1 Wrote:  As an out of market Eagles fan, and Temple fan, I took the big step today. Cancelled my NFL Sunday Ticket. At least went out with a dramatic win over the Giants (thanks Memphis). And also unfollowed on twitter and cancelled my OwlScoop forum membership, as that moderator now does nothing but rant about Trump and politics.

I refuse to spend my money on sports and entertainment and have politics jump in. Thats why I pay for sports and entertainment.... as an escape from that crap.

Goodbye NFL, college is a much better product anyway. Good bye John DiC. and Owlscoop. take your politics somewhere else.

You know most of those college players feel the same way as their NFL counterparts and will be in the NFL soon doing the same thing right?

Prove it

No one has the legal right to take a knee while at work or make any kind of political display that may have ramifications to their employer. Everyone forgets all these players are at work. Trump should not have weighed in but let's lose all the "it is their right to do so". It is, however, the right of the team owner to fire anyone who performs an act, not protected by the constitution, when that act is injurious to the company. (Reduction of revenue to the Team, NFL...etc...)

(09-25-2017 01:48 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 01:39 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 10:55 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 10:53 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 10:47 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  #1. These are entitled d-bags. Stand for the anthem. Nobody even knows why you're kneeling expect looking like d-bags. Is it Trump, is it police, is it they have CTE and can't stand?

#2. Why are you bringing the Confederate flag into this? I never have flown or displayed a confederate flag like 99% of the people. As far as I know they aren't doing the Confederate anthem or waving the flag.

nascar comments were made, where confederation flags are

and the kneeling is against police brutality, its kaps response to all the stuff that happened last year..he has said it in interview atleast 20 times..but those who oppose dont care to listen

i dont care either way....people will always protest..this is just a fact of life....like i said id rather it be for 1 min of game i regular dont watch anyways...that it be a mil long highway stop... kneeling doesnt affect my life in any way shape or form

Don't be surprised when the NFL ratings start dropping then. Just because you feel a certain way doesn't mean others don't. A lot of us are fed up with the political bullsh!t.

Just because YOU feel a certain way doesn't mean others don't. A lot of us are fed up with this fake bought and paid for "patriotism".

Dear confused, paid for by who? No one is paying me. Who is paying you, George Soros? Of course, I get it now. You're afraid of losing your paychecks.

The DOD paid the NFL to have the players out for the anthem which only started in 2009 as a recruitment tool. Yeah, so keep on wrapping yourself in the flag.

(09-25-2017 02:14 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 01:42 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 01:21 PM)taximan1 Wrote:  As an out of market Eagles fan, and Temple fan, I took the big step today. Cancelled my NFL Sunday Ticket. At least went out with a dramatic win over the Giants (thanks Memphis). And also unfollowed on twitter and cancelled my OwlScoop forum membership, as that moderator now does nothing but rant about Trump and politics.

I refuse to spend my money on sports and entertainment and have politics jump in. Thats why I pay for sports and entertainment.... as an escape from that crap.

Goodbye NFL, college is a much better product anyway. Good bye John DiC. and Owlscoop. take your politics somewhere else.

You know most of those college players feel the same way as their NFL counterparts and will be in the NFL soon doing the same thing right?

Prove it

You know NFL players played in college right? You know the guys being drafted next year are currently in college right? Prove they wont.

(09-25-2017 02:15 PM)msu65 Wrote:  No one has the legal right to take a knee while at work or make any kind of political display that may have ramifications to their employer. Everyone forgets all these players are at work. Trump should not have weighed in but let's lose all the "it is their right to do so". It is, however, the right of the team owner to fire anyone who performs an act, not protected by the constitution, when that act is injurious to the company. (Reduction of revenue to the Team, NFL...etc...)

Well since those players didn't get a nickle of that money the owners got from the DOD to put on those patriotic recruiting scenes I think they have a very good case if any of them are ever fired for taking a knee. Their job isn't to stand for the anthem, it's to play FB.

(09-25-2017 01:52 PM)NavyHusker Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 01:43 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 01:40 PM)taximan1 Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 08:07 AM)NTTHOR Wrote:  and of course, espn has an article about him kinda in a negative light. some of his teammates thought he was gonna be with them inside, james harrison specifically mentioned this. sad sad times....people want the right to do things, but they don't like when others go against what they want to do.

and of course its OK to take a knee because the players have the legal right. But he is shamed for expressing his patriotic belief. Disgusting.

He's being shamed because they ALL agreed not to go out so no one would be forced to take a side and then he went out and made it look like he was the only one who wanted to be out there. He made the rest of the team look bad by showing them up. Thats the point, but i'm not shocked you don't get that.

Sounds like not ALL agreed apparently. I personally find it encouraging that Ali had the moral courage to do what he felt was right. Speaks well of him which is also not a surprise given what he had done before this past weekend.

So it's cool for him to make the rest of his teammates even the ones who would have never taken a knee look bad? That doesn't say someone of high character to me. It sounds like someone who is a me first person who is a distraction to the team and a locker room cancer.

(09-25-2017 02:18 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 02:14 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 01:42 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 01:21 PM)taximan1 Wrote:  As an out of market Eagles fan, and Temple fan, I took the big step today. Cancelled my NFL Sunday Ticket. At least went out with a dramatic win over the Giants (thanks Memphis). And also unfollowed on twitter and cancelled my OwlScoop forum membership, as that moderator now does nothing but rant about Trump and politics.

I refuse to spend my money on sports and entertainment and have politics jump in. Thats why I pay for sports and entertainment.... as an escape from that crap.

Goodbye NFL, college is a much better product anyway. Good bye John DiC. and Owlscoop. take your politics somewhere else.

You know most of those college players feel the same way as their NFL counterparts and will be in the NFL soon doing the same thing right?

Prove it

You know NFL players played in college right? You know the guys being drafted next year are currently in college right? Prove they wont.

You made the claim not me. You prove it or are you just lipping off.

Rutgers.

(09-25-2017 02:20 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 02:15 PM)msu65 Wrote:  No one has the legal right to take a knee while at work or make any kind of political display that may have ramifications to their employer. Everyone forgets all these players are at work. Trump should not have weighed in but let's lose all the "it is their right to do so". It is, however, the right of the team owner to fire anyone who performs an act, not protected by the constitution, when that act is injurious to the company. (Reduction of revenue to the Team, NFL...etc...)

Well since those players didn't get a nickle of that money the owners got from the DOD to put on those patriotic recruiting scenes I think they have a very good case if any of them are ever fired for taking a knee. Their job isn't to stand for the anthem, it's to play FB.

What would be their defense against their employer. Nothing falls under discrimination because whites are kneeling as well. What protection under the constitution would the owners be violating other than people's feelings?

(09-25-2017 02:15 PM)msu65 Wrote:  No one has the legal right to take a knee while at work or make any kind of political display that may have ramifications to their employer. Everyone forgets all these players are at work. Trump should not have weighed in but let's lose all the "it is their right to do so". It is, however, the right of the team owner to fire anyone who performs an act, not protected by the constitution, when that act is injurious to the company. (Reduction of revenue to the Team, NFL...etc...)

on the same breathe, my job cant force me to stand and pledge allegiance every morning
that has nothing to do with my work

they could try and fire me for it, but i could sue and would likely win

By the way NFL contracts have a clause that anything done to the detriment of the NFL or the team is an immediate dismissal. This is costing the teams and the NFL immeasurable amounts of money