Lush
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RE: Army Black Knight Alejandro Villanueva
(09-26-2017 09:09 AM)Fitbud Wrote: (09-26-2017 09:06 AM)Lush Wrote: once everyone's on board, kneeling will just be the new way of showing reverence for the flag. it kind of is already
And that is what I was saying in another thread. Kneeling is not a sign of disrespect, it's a sign of humility.
i don't know about humility, they definitely have an agenda. andy dalton could toss a burning flag to aj green for all i care as long as it results in a super bowl touchdown
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Hood-rich
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RE: Army Black Knight Alejandro Villanueva
(09-26-2017 09:16 AM)Fitbud Wrote: (09-26-2017 09:15 AM)Hood-rich Wrote: (09-26-2017 09:09 AM)Fitbud Wrote: (09-26-2017 09:06 AM)Lush Wrote: once everyone's on board, kneeling will just be the new way of showing reverence for the flag. it kind of is already
And that is what I was saying in another thread. Kneeling is not a sign of disrespect, it's a sign of humility.
No it's an act of defiance in these cases. The announcers ask you to stand to show respect.
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You didn't watch the game did you?
No but I saw what happened before. Yeah, they didn't kneel DURING the anthem but the message was clear. They are all united in pushing the false narrative of widespread police brutality / BLM / black SJW cause of the week.
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HeartOfDixie
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RE: Army Black Knight Alejandro Villanueva
I watch so little of the NFL I recognized him as the guy from the USAA commercial.
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DefCONNOne
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RE: Army Black Knight Alejandro Villanueva
(09-26-2017 09:06 AM)Lush Wrote: once everyone's on board, kneeling will just be the new way of showing reverence for the flag. it kind of is already
It kinda isn't, but it's adorable you think it is.
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09-26-2017 10:12 AM |
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Lush
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RE: Army Black Knight Alejandro Villanueva
(09-26-2017 10:12 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote: (09-26-2017 09:06 AM)Lush Wrote: once everyone's on board, kneeling will just be the new way of showing reverence for the flag. it kind of is already
It kinda isn't, but it's adorable you think it is.
being allowed to express your patriotism no matter stupid your cause is. even if you aren't aware
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Fitbud
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RE: Army Black Knight Alejandro Villanueva
I knew Trump was going to change things in America but I never thought he would make some people abandon football.
Ironic that people are going to boycott football for it's seemingly lack of patriotism to this country yet their boycott could potentially hurt something as American as football.
I love this country.
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RE: Army Black Knight Alejandro Villanueva
(09-25-2017 09:56 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Players have a right to do what they want to do about this. Fans have a right to do what they want.
To paraphrase words attributed (apparently incorrectly) to Voltaire, I disagree with you but I will defend your right to say that.
This whole thing seems to me like manufactured patriotism meets manufactured outrage. And I haven't watched the NFL in years, so I'll probably go to church and then either take the boat out or play golf.
I agree. Trump kind of commands two puppets now.
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sfink16
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RE: Army Black Knight Alejandro Villanueva
The NFL is a multi-billion dollar a year business. But to use president Obama's own words, they "Didn't build that". As Obama explained, the roads and infrastructure (among many other things he spouted) needed to be built so the NFL business could be established.
Worse the state and local tax payer usually were blackmailed into paying for the stadiums to be built. But it doesn't end there. Car manufactures buy commercials for the games. Whether you watch the gamer or not, that cost of advertising is passed onto the price of the car. You cable package includes ESPN in many cases, whether you watch it or not. You are paying extra for ESPN (including the NFL) and other sporting entertainment and have no choice in the matter.
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RE: Army Black Knight Alejandro Villanueva
(09-25-2017 04:13 PM)shere khan Wrote: (09-25-2017 03:56 PM)Hood-rich Wrote: (09-25-2017 03:55 PM)shere khan Wrote: (09-25-2017 03:39 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote: (09-25-2017 03:33 PM)shere khan Wrote: I'm a similar fashion, you have a constitutional right to bear arms. Bring it to work, you're fired.
Thats because your job has a rule against it. No rule in the NFL where you have to stand.
Luckily the supreme court already went over this.
The Court held, in a 6-to-3 decision delivered by Justice Jackson, that it was unconstitutional for public schools to compel students to salute the flag. It thus overruled its decision in Minersville School District v. Gobitis, finding that the flag salute was "a form of utterance" and "a primitive but effective means of communicating ideas." "Compulsory unification of opinion," the Court wrote, was doomed to failure and was antithetical to the values set forth in the First Amendment. The Court eloquently stated: "If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein." To underscore its decision, the Supreme Court announced it on Flag Day.
Further our rights do not just protect us from the government but ensure that a tyranical majority may not over run the rights of a minority.
Those who say they should be thankful for being in America don't know American history. Our rights are enshrined by the constitution but granted by our creator. The declaration of independence is the first vocalization of America and it is quite clear.
Everybody have a good day.
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RE: Army Black Knight Alejandro Villanueva
(09-26-2017 09:21 AM)Hood-rich Wrote: (09-26-2017 09:16 AM)Fitbud Wrote: (09-26-2017 09:15 AM)Hood-rich Wrote: (09-26-2017 09:09 AM)Fitbud Wrote: (09-26-2017 09:06 AM)Lush Wrote: once everyone's on board, kneeling will just be the new way of showing reverence for the flag. it kind of is already
And that is what I was saying in another thread. Kneeling is not a sign of disrespect, it's a sign of humility.
No it's an act of defiance in these cases. The announcers ask you to stand to show respect.
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You didn't watch the game did you?
No but I saw what happened before. Yeah, they didn't kneel DURING the anthem but the message was clear. They are all united in pushing the false narrative of widespread police brutality / BLM / black SJW cause of the week.
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No one here or in the NFL has ever said there is widespread police brutality.
That is something you just fabricated.
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Army Black Knight Alejandro Villanueva
(09-25-2017 02:46 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote: (09-25-2017 02:27 PM)Tigeer Wrote: (09-25-2017 01:42 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote: (09-25-2017 01:21 PM)taximan1 Wrote: As an out of market Eagles fan, and Temple fan, I took the big step today. Cancelled my NFL Sunday Ticket. At least went out with a dramatic win over the Giants (thanks Memphis). And also unfollowed on twitter and cancelled my OwlScoop forum membership, as that moderator now does nothing but rant about Trump and politics.
I refuse to spend my money on sports and entertainment and have politics jump in. Thats why I pay for sports and entertainment.... as an escape from that crap.
Goodbye NFL, college is a much better product anyway. Good bye John DiC. and Owlscoop. take your politics somewhere else.
You know most of those college players feel the same way as their NFL counterparts and will be in the NFL soon doing the same thing right?
Most will not be in the NFL
But everyone in the NFL comes from college. Every one of those players kneeling were college players just a few years ago.
Every player in the NFL do not play in college. Most but not all.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/the-c...-his-life/
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Army Black Knight Alejandro Villanueva
(09-26-2017 09:18 AM)Lush Wrote: (09-26-2017 09:09 AM)Fitbud Wrote: (09-26-2017 09:06 AM)Lush Wrote: once everyone's on board, kneeling will just be the new way of showing reverence for the flag. it kind of is already
And that is what I was saying in another thread. Kneeling is not a sign of disrespect, it's a sign of humility.
i don't know about humility, they definitely have an agenda. andy dalton could toss a burning flag to aj green for all i care as long as it results in a super bowl touchdown
If it is dalton he will most likely overthrow green.
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