(09-29-2017 01:16 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  When I think of D-Line it's rushing....

1 UTSA 93
2 Western Kentucky 111.8
3 Florida International 114.3
4 Middle Tennessee State 114.3
5 Southern Mississippi 119.3
6 North Texas 124.3


AVG per carry

1 Middle Tennessee State 2.9
2 UTSA 3
3 North Texas 3.1
4 Florida International 3.1
5 Western Kentucky 3.4
6 Marshall 3.5
7 Southern Mississippi 3.7
8 Old Dominion 3.9


If I get the time I will do a deviation from what the total and avg is for the teams played

You really dig deep to uncover all the angles. With this kind of information you should be leading the weekly "Line in the Sand" contest.

Having said that... I wish you didn't show this information. Southern Miss fans don't know the North Texas run defense is just as good as theirs. I really wanted to surprise them Saturday.

(09-29-2017 02:51 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-29-2017 01:16 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  When I think of D-Line it's rushing....

1 UTSA 93
2 Western Kentucky 111.8
3 Florida International 114.3
4 Middle Tennessee State 114.3
5 Southern Mississippi 119.3
6 North Texas 124.3


AVG per carry

1 Middle Tennessee State 2.9
2 UTSA 3
3 North Texas 3.1
4 Florida International 3.1
5 Western Kentucky 3.4
6 Marshall 3.5
7 Southern Mississippi 3.7
8 Old Dominion 3.9


If I get the time I will do a deviation from what the total and avg is for the teams played

Rushing isn't a good indicator because it can be LBs or secondary missing gaps/tackles. The DL's primary role in run defense is creating havoc/tackles for losses.

That's is an overly simplistic view. If you are all risk all reward then this falls apart. We are awesome, because we get 12 tackles for loss a game. Nevermind, we give up 10 20+ yard rushes per game.

The primary job of the defense line is to occupy the OL so that the linebackers can run free to make tackles at or near the line of scrimmage. A DL that gets in the backfield is an added bonus but doesn't mean much if the defense is getting gashed on every other time they aren't in the backfield.

(09-29-2017 10:16 AM)correcamino Wrote:  

(09-27-2017 06:42 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(09-27-2017 05:44 PM)correcamino Wrote:  

(09-27-2017 12:35 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(09-27-2017 07:42 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  How does a team with a P5 affiliation and top players and playoff aspirations fall so far so fast?

When the scandal went down last year there was mass exodus of all their good recruits, they basically have CUSA level freshman and recruits now. It is going to be a tough road for Baylor.

It was funny to see Liberty fans pump their chest over beating a team that has been decimated, only to lose to FCS school two weeks later.

I think Baylor will go 0-12 maybe 1-11 with a win over Kansas, a shell of its former self.

Unfortunately beating Baylor this year will not help UTSA any with the pollsters

That's a flat out lie and easy to verify. They had the 40th ranked class in 2017, which was good enough for 5th in the Big 12 and is like 20 spots higher than the highest ranked CUSA class (FAU).

Baylor Down to 1 commit for 2017 recruiting class:
https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college...ting-class

https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...iles-fired

https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...n-oklahoma

The Baylor program has been absolutely decimated.

Baylor will play the 2016 season with only 70 Scholarship players:
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-footbal...rixqj8gezy

Baylor agrees to release 5 2016 Football Signees:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nc.../86313342/


Surely you knew this stuff?

Nice articles from over a year ago. There were still 8 months until signing day at the time of those articles. They regrouped and went on to have the 40th best class in the nation--which again is very easy to verify.

I get that they took a big step back but let's not make things up to make it seem worse than it was.

DENIAL is not a river in Egypt.

The date of that "Down to 1 recruit" article was in early NOVEMBER. By then, almost any FBS school is supposed to have 90% of their recruiting class already locked up.

Also, it wasn't just one recruiting class that was hurt, it's already been TWO classes now. Not to mention the starters and other upper classmen who transferred out (e.g., starting QB Jared Stidham, transferred to Auburn and is now Auburn's starting QB).

Get out of fairy tale land.

(09-29-2017 10:03 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(09-29-2017 10:16 AM)correcamino Wrote:  

(09-27-2017 06:42 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(09-27-2017 05:44 PM)correcamino Wrote:  

(09-27-2017 12:35 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  When the scandal went down last year there was mass exodus of all their good recruits, they basically have CUSA level freshman and recruits now. It is going to be a tough road for Baylor.

It was funny to see Liberty fans pump their chest over beating a team that has been decimated, only to lose to FCS school two weeks later.

I think Baylor will go 0-12 maybe 1-11 with a win over Kansas, a shell of its former self.

Unfortunately beating Baylor this year will not help UTSA any with the pollsters

That's a flat out lie and easy to verify. They had the 40th ranked class in 2017, which was good enough for 5th in the Big 12 and is like 20 spots higher than the highest ranked CUSA class (FAU).

Baylor Down to 1 commit for 2017 recruiting class:
https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college...ting-class

https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...iles-fired

https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...n-oklahoma

The Baylor program has been absolutely decimated.

Baylor will play the 2016 season with only 70 Scholarship players:
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-footbal...rixqj8gezy

Baylor agrees to release 5 2016 Football Signees:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nc.../86313342/


Surely you knew this stuff?

Nice articles from over a year ago. There were still 8 months until signing day at the time of those articles. They regrouped and went on to have the 40th best class in the nation--which again is very easy to verify.

I get that they took a big step back but let's not make things up to make it seem worse than it was.

DENIAL is not a river in Egypt.

The date of that "Down to 1 recruit" article was in early NOVEMBER. By then, almost any FBS school is supposed to have 90% of their recruiting class already locked up.

Also, it wasn't just one recruiting class that was hurt, it's already been TWO classes now. Not to mention the starters and other upper classmen who transferred out (e.g., starting QB Jared Stidham, transferred to Auburn and is now Auburn's starting QB).

Get out of fairy tale land.

You realize I'm responding to your "they are playing with CUSA level talent", right?

Yes, they have been affected by the scandal. They lost 5 stars like Stidham as a result and can no longer recruit that level of athlete. I never said they're the Baylor of the past 5 years. Everybody knows they've taken a big step back but there's no need to make it seem worse than what it is. They had the 40th best class in the country--that isn't CUSA level like you claim.

Lol...we will know today whose run defense is better...Talk won't tell us for sure.

(09-30-2017 07:07 AM)correcamino Wrote:  

(09-29-2017 10:03 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(09-29-2017 10:16 AM)correcamino Wrote:  

(09-27-2017 06:42 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(09-27-2017 05:44 PM)correcamino Wrote:  That's a flat out lie and easy to verify. They had the 40th ranked class in 2017, which was good enough for 5th in the Big 12 and is like 20 spots higher than the highest ranked CUSA class (FAU).

Baylor Down to 1 commit for 2017 recruiting class:
https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college...ting-class

https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...iles-fired

https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...n-oklahoma

The Baylor program has been absolutely decimated.

Baylor will play the 2016 season with only 70 Scholarship players:
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-footbal...rixqj8gezy

Baylor agrees to release 5 2016 Football Signees:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nc.../86313342/


Surely you knew this stuff?

Nice articles from over a year ago. There were still 8 months until signing day at the time of those articles. They regrouped and went on to have the 40th best class in the nation--which again is very easy to verify.

I get that they took a big step back but let's not make things up to make it seem worse than it was.

DENIAL is not a river in Egypt.

The date of that "Down to 1 recruit" article was in early NOVEMBER. By then, almost any FBS school is supposed to have 90% of their recruiting class already locked up.

Also, it wasn't just one recruiting class that was hurt, it's already been TWO classes now. Not to mention the starters and other upper classmen who transferred out (e.g., starting QB Jared Stidham, transferred to Auburn and is now Auburn's starting QB).

Get out of fairy tale land.

You realize I'm responding to your "they are playing with CUSA level talent", right?

Yes, they have been affected by the scandal. They lost 5 stars like Stidham as a result and can no longer recruit that level of athlete. I never said they're the Baylor of the past 5 years. Everybody knows they've taken a big step back but there's no need to make it seem worse than what it is. They had the 40th best class in the country--that isn't CUSA level like you claim.

You realize that it wasn't me that made the "CUSA level" talent comment, right? But that's fine, because I realize some of you UTSA guys can't read anyway. Regardless, the point remains the same.

UTSA caught Baylor at just the right time. It was a case of Baylor having back-to-back "down" recruiting classes, in addition to losing many upperclassmen players to transfers and leaves. The good news for Baylor is, that's over now. Baylor's 2018 recruiting class is already ranked #23, right between Michigan at #22 and Southern CAL at #24. That's pretty good company. So they will likely bounce back. But it will probably take about 5 years to get all the way back.

https://baylor.rivals.com/commitments/football/2018

Does David Bailiff make it to the end of the year. Ive set here and watched 3 possession. Rice had the ball for 7 plays and went backwards 3 times and Pittsburgh has had the ball twice, run 5 plays and has scored 2 TDs.

Rice secondary looks bad real bad.

(09-30-2017 11:30 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  Does David Bailiff make it to the end of the year. Ive set here and watched 3 possession. Rice had the ball for 7 plays and went backwards 3 times and Pittsburgh has had the ball twice, run 5 plays and has scored 2 TDs.

Rice secondary looks bad real bad.

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We need Rice to be good again, but this is brutal so far. This isn't Clemson. This a 1-3 Piit team with the only win a 1TD escape over FCS Youngstown State. Max Brown looks like Baker Mayfield so far. Come on Owls, get back in this game,