I know that Nebraska has been a powerhouse in the past, but the Huskers' academic restrictions are far more tighter than they've been in the past. In the Big 8, before it became the Big 12, Nebraska could recruit athletes that Texas & the SWC schools could not. Now, the Huskers have to recruit the type of athletes Texas recruits, without the benefit of the fertile recruiting grounds that the Longhorns have. I know that Nebraska wants to get back to its winning ways, but they have got to remember that they have went through a lot of changes since the Big 8 was still the Big 8. It's hard to know what type of coach Nebraska needs exactly, but I'm guessing that they (Nebraska's big donors)really want Scott Frost back pretty bad.

Even though Riley has had troubles at Nebraska, if I were Tennessee or Arkansas, I would zero in on getting Riley as a head coach, because he's a really good coach, and Nebraska's expectations right now are very, very unrealistic considering all of the academic restrictions that have been working against Riley. Riley might need some time off to distance himself from Nebraska though.

riley should be a coordinator at this point


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What about teams that should be P5? Boise State should fire Harsin and get somebody better to get Boise State back to winning.

Not to offend, most coaches ultimate goal and destination are not to be a G5 coach only.

(09-22-2017 05:39 PM)billings Wrote:  Possible Missouri and Oregon State as well

Oregon State can get a coach for free if they take Riley back.....third time is a charm!

(09-22-2017 07:48 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  Arizona
Arizona State

UCLA is pretty likely to come open as well

ty willingham, Dennis Erickson and little ricky neuhisel are all waiting by the phone

Ole Miss has been open

(09-23-2017 05:31 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 05:39 PM)billings Wrote:  Possible Missouri and Oregon State as well

Oregon State can get a coach for free if they take Riley back.....third time is a charm!

(09-22-2017 07:48 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  Arizona
Arizona State

UCLA is pretty likely to come open as well

ty willingham, Dennis Erickson and little ricky neuhisel are all waiting by the phone

Nah, Dennis Erickson to Boise State would bring BSU back into the limelights again. Dennis brought Idaho from a no win to several wins before he got hired by one of the Arizona schools.

(09-22-2017 05:27 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  Yes. Nebraska may not be what it was, but they still have advantages other schools would kill for. It's not like Wisconsin has any big advantages over Nebraska.

Wisconsin is a bigger school, better school, bigger endowment and in a state with far more football players and more proximate to states with football players.

(09-23-2017 10:14 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  I know that Nebraska has been a powerhouse in the past, but the Huskers' academic restrictions are far more tighter than they've been in the past. In the Big 8, before it became the Big 12, Nebraska could recruit athletes that Texas & the SWC schools could not. Now, the Huskers have to recruit the type of athletes Texas recruits, without the benefit of the fertile recruiting grounds that the Longhorns have. I know that Nebraska wants to get back to its winning ways, but they have got to remember that they have went through a lot of changes since the Big 8 was still the Big 8. It's hard to know what type of coach Nebraska needs exactly, but I'm guessing that they (Nebraska's big donors)really want Scott Frost back pretty bad.

Even though Riley has had troubles at Nebraska, if I were Tennessee or Arkansas, I would zero in on getting Riley as a head coach, because he's a really good coach, and Nebraska's expectations right now are very, very unrealistic considering all of the academic restrictions that have been working against Riley. Riley might need some time off to distance himself from Nebraska though.

If Riley can't manage in Lincoln, he won't fare much better in the SEC

13/14 Big Ten jobs are safe. Nebraska might be the only one open.

(09-22-2017 05:27 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  Yes. Nebraska may not be what it was, but they still have advantages other schools would kill for. It's not like Wisconsin has any big advantages over Nebraska. They have just been better run from the top (with a consistent vision for what they want the program to be even across coaches).

Nebraska is a small state with little population. Its football program shouldn't be better than UConn, UMass, Mexico, Nevada, North Dakota or South Dakota.

(09-24-2017 05:15 PM)ArQ Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 05:27 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  Yes. Nebraska may not be what it was, but they still have advantages other schools would kill for. It's not like Wisconsin has any big advantages over Nebraska. They have just been better run from the top (with a consistent vision for what they want the program to be even across coaches).

Nebraska is a small state with little population. Its football program shouldn't be better than UConn, UMass, Mexico, Nevada, North Dakota or South Dakota.

(09-24-2017 05:15 PM)ArQ Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 05:27 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  Yes. Nebraska may not be what it was, but they still have advantages other schools would kill for. It's not like Wisconsin has any big advantages over Nebraska. They have just been better run from the top (with a consistent vision for what they want the program to be even across coaches).

Nebraska is a small state with little population. Its football program shouldn't be better than UConn, UMass, Mexico, Nevada, North Dakota or South Dakota.

Tunnel vision

(09-24-2017 05:15 PM)ArQ Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 05:27 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  Yes. Nebraska may not be what it was, but they still have advantages other schools would kill for. It's not like Wisconsin has any big advantages over Nebraska. They have just been better run from the top (with a consistent vision for what they want the program to be even across coaches).

Nebraska is a small state with little population. Its football program shouldn't be better than UConn, UMass, Mexico, Nevada, North Dakota or South Dakota.

I guess you can say the same with Alabama

(09-24-2017 05:15 PM)ArQ Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 05:27 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  Yes. Nebraska may not be what it was, but they still have advantages other schools would kill for. It's not like Wisconsin has any big advantages over Nebraska. They have just been better run from the top (with a consistent vision for what they want the program to be even across coaches).

Nebraska is a small state with little population. Its football program shouldn't be better than UConn, UMass, Mexico, Nevada, North Dakota or South Dakota.

They are die-hards for the sport though and Cornhusker football is legitimately the unquestioned team of the state. You combine that with the fact that Nebraska is a name brand program (very hard to get that status, but also hard to lose it) and I can't make any conclusion except that the football program is badly underachieving (even if it never reachs former heights).

(09-24-2017 07:33 PM)otown Wrote:  

(09-24-2017 05:15 PM)ArQ Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 05:27 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  Yes. Nebraska may not be what it was, but they still have advantages other schools would kill for. It's not like Wisconsin has any big advantages over Nebraska. They have just been better run from the top (with a consistent vision for what they want the program to be even across coaches).

Nebraska is a small state with little population. Its football program shouldn't be better than UConn, UMass, Mexico, Nevada, North Dakota or South Dakota.

I guess you can say the same with Alabama

But Alabama has great weather for playing football. Also close to Florida and Texas. Nebraska has no ingredients to be a long term success. Its achievement is a miracle. But the reality will catch up eventually.

Neb will have its years, but has nothing to sell, to make itself great again. If you are under the age of 30 you have never seen or known Nebraska to be a great program. Why would and top notch recruit want to go there? They will be an average B10 school no more.

(09-22-2017 06:35 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 06:20 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 05:52 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 05:27 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  Yes. Nebraska may not be what it was, but they still have advantages other schools would kill for. It's not like Wisconsin has any big advantages over Nebraska. They have just been better run from the top (with a consistent vision for what they want the program to be even across coaches).

Wisconsin has plenty of advantages over Nebraska:

1) Wisconsin has a LOT more alumni than Nebraska.
2) There's a lot more high school football players in Wisconsin than in Nebraska.
3) Madison is perceived as a much cooler place to live than Lincoln. And it's a lot more diverse than Lincoln, which matters to some athletes who aren't white.

1) Wisconsin's population is 3 times that of Nebraska
2) Chicago Metro area (IL portion only) is 5 times that of Nebraska (2 hours from Madison)

Working with Barry Alvarez is supposedly a pain in the ass to the work for, hence why Gary Andersen left. But that's probably made up plus some by Nebraska for the political pressures that come with a fan base that fancies itself as Alabama when they're more like Michigan State or something (and that might be generous).

I don't think it's that Barry is a PITA, it's that Barry figured out what formula works at Wisconsin and part of the agreement in taking the job is to not mess with that formula.

Bielema left because he thought he'd never get out from under the shadow of Barry and that the SEC was the proverbial greener pasture. I also think he overestimated his coaching ability which is kinda being shown in the SEC.

Andersen was never really the right fit. He worked within the system but is a "spread" guy at heart. I think that and the refusal of Wisconsin to lower it's standards to allow Andersen to recruit people to fit his scheme lead to his leaving.

Say what you will, but the Barry formula (or some would say the Nebraska formula) works at Wisconsin. If they were to change they'd be nothing more than a mid to lower pack team.

If it ain't broke....

I've seen better days, then the bottom dropped out

(09-24-2017 04:27 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(09-23-2017 05:31 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 05:39 PM)billings Wrote:  Possible Missouri and Oregon State as well

Oregon State can get a coach for free if they take Riley back.....third time is a charm!

(09-22-2017 07:48 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  Arizona
Arizona State

UCLA is pretty likely to come open as well

ty willingham, Dennis Erickson and little ricky neuhisel are all waiting by the phone

Nah, Dennis Erickson to Boise State would bring BSU back into the limelights again. Dennis brought Idaho from a no win to several wins before he got hired by one of the Arizona schools.

Boise would never hire him. That would bring major ridicule from Idaho fans, plus he is about 80.


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