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(09-22-2017 02:07 PM)UABslant Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 01:22 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  Yes, I do know and respect the construction expertise of Attalla from his posts on such subjects. You should recall that what I did was ASK A QUESTION as to what wind speed the UAB (now Legacy Pavilion) was rated to withstand. No one has answered my question, but bitterly decried that I dared to ask it. In light of the USA pavilion experience, it is not a terrible question to ask.

Short answer: no one knows, or they would have answered.

Logical answer: We have building codes in the US that make sure buildings like this are safe. So yes, your concern seems unwarranted considering you are comparing an unfinished structure vs a finished structure.

So the short logical and simple answer is that there is no answer forthcoming, and UAB was just fortunate not to get caught with its "diagonal rod bracings" down as happened in Mobile.

(09-22-2017 01:01 PM)the_blazerman Wrote:  Which brings me back to my question earlier in the thread -
What would be gained by half-a$$ing the bracing while it was under construction?
Does it save money or time?
Someone made the call to do it & probably needs to be held accountable for the decision.

Is this a normal practice by some that ended up costing this construction?

Yes it saves money and time unless your unethical practices bite you on the ass as in this case

I am more concerned that there might be a wind strong enough to blow away the seats covered by the stadium certificates. Are they still covered in perpetuity if they are blown away?

(09-22-2017 02:58 PM)bladhmadh Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 01:01 PM)the_blazerman Wrote:  Which brings me back to my question earlier in the thread -
What would be gained by half-a$$ing the bracing while it was under construction?
Does it save money or time?
Someone made the call to do it & probably needs to be held accountable for the decision.

Is this a normal practice by some that ended up costing this construction?

Yes it saves money and time unless your unethical practices bite you on the ass as in this case

Thanks. Just what I thought.

(09-22-2017 03:18 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  I am more concerned that there might be a wind strong enough to blow away the seats covered by the stadium certificates. Are they still covered in perpetuity if they are blown away?

SINCE YOU ASKED ABOUT STADIUM CERTIFICATES -- LEGALLY they are contracts between the city and the SC holders and exist in perpetuity for ANY football game played by ANY teams at Legion Field. Each certificate is good for two 50 yd line seats (plus Gold Seats) for which only the face price of the ticket can be charged (no assessed premium). There are still over 2,500 SCs out there held by about 1,600 who bought them up when AU and UA still played their major games in B'ham. A few are held today by UAB fans I have met.

According to the specific certificates owned, covered seat tickets can only LEGALLY be sold to others from 7 to 30 days before a particular game. UAB and any other stadium renters are covered by these contracts, but perhaps as long as no one sues, who cares? LEGAL is only important if authorities care to enforce the laws.

Technically he did not ask about stadium certificates. But rtr.

And no, UAB was not fortunate with anything about the structure. It was built properly, even during the construction phase. If you want to guess if it can sustain 200 mph winds, or a direct tornado shot, my guess is no. You do realize there were strong winds lately and the structure is still standing, right? You are literally the only person on the board concerned about this, the rest are mocking you. Don't you think for a second that maybe you are off base?

(09-23-2017 12:13 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  Technically he did not ask about stadium certificates. But rtr.

And no, UAB was not fortunate with anything about the structure. It was built properly, even during the construction phase. If you want to guess if it can sustain 200 mph winds, or a direct tornado shot, my guess is no. You do realize there were strong winds lately and the structure is still standing, right? You are literally the only person on the board concerned about this, the rest are mocking you. Don't you think for a second that maybe you are off base?

How many posts repeat the mantra "Fire Ray Watts" even though no one on this board nor anyone at UAB can do that? In that light more than a few of us are "off base".

Please fire Ray Watts?

(09-22-2017 02:53 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  So the short logical and simple answer is that there is no answer forthcoming, and UAB was just fortunate not to get caught with its "diagonal rod bracings" down as happened in Mobile.

No. The short answer is that UAB used a competent contractor who did not half-ass the job or cut corners. I'm not necessarily saying that USA did - but their results do lead me to think so.

(09-22-2017 02:53 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 02:07 PM)UABslant Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 01:22 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  Yes, I do know and respect the construction expertise of Attalla from his posts on such subjects. You should recall that what I did was ASK A QUESTION as to what wind speed the UAB (now Legacy Pavilion) was rated to withstand. No one has answered my question, but bitterly decried that I dared to ask it. In light of the USA pavilion experience, it is not a terrible question to ask.

Short answer: no one knows, or they would have answered.

Logical answer: We have building codes in the US that make sure buildings like this are safe. So yes, your concern seems unwarranted considering you are comparing an unfinished structure vs a finished structure.

So the short logical and simple answer is that there is no answer forthcoming, and UAB was just fortunate not to get caught with its "diagonal rod bracings" down as happened in Mobile.

Where you say "fortunate" I say "competent".

You imply UAB got lucky (with zero evidence to support that position).

Bottom line: theirs collapsed. Ours didn't. There's probably a reason not related to luck.

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