(09-21-2017 05:17 PM)_x_ Wrote:  This is always the argument from utsa fans.

1904 or 1960-whatever really doesn't make a difference in 2017. You've been beating that dead horse for 5+ years now. Find something else already.

Sorry 60 years wasn't enough prep time for you guys to beat us in basketball and baseball in the SLC days.

Actually, in men's basketball, we were 25-21 against you during our days in the SLC, but you had a sizable advantage in baseball with a 44-27 record against us there.

(09-21-2017 07:53 PM)Free bird Wrote:  

(09-21-2017 05:17 PM)_x_ Wrote:  This is always the argument from utsa fans.

1904 or 1960-whatever really doesn't make a difference in 2017. You've been beating that dead horse for 5+ years now. Find something else already.

Sorry 60 years wasn't enough prep time for you guys to beat us in basketball and baseball in the SLC days.

And this is always TXST fans go to arguement. Always bringing up all sports school history wins when we are talking about football. Stick to the topic. Nobody cares about those other sports like they do football. UTSA is undefeated against TXST and that's it. It adds insult to injury knowing that TXST was defeated by a second year program also. Tee hee

The highlight of your entire University is beating a
1.) 4-8
2.) 1st year FBS
2.) Dennis Franchione (.534 D1 all-time career record) coached TXST team.

(09-21-2017 07:53 PM)Free bird Wrote:  And this is always TXST fans go to arguement. Always bringing up all sports school history wins when we are talking about football. Stick to the topic. Nobody cares about those other sports like they do football. UTSA is undefeated against TXST and that's it. It adds insult to injury knowing that TXST was defeated by a second year program also. Tee hee

Maybe because the rivalry was built over those sports? Now you have a football program and it switches to football being the only thing that counts? Maybe for you. Can't help that you have tunnel vision. We still care about winning in all sports that we play UTSA in.
FWIW - you will notice that most TXST fans, at least on here, acknowledge where we stand in the rebuild of our program and aren't making outrageous claims for this game.
Personally, I was glad the hiring committee overrode Teis on this hire but we're not going to see the results until, at least, next season

(09-22-2017 10:56 AM)CatMom Wrote:  Personally, I was glad the hiring committee overrode Teis on this hire but we're not going to see the results until, at least, next season

I don't think Teis was overridden. I think the hiring committee said "you should hire this guy" and he was just like "yeah ok, why not". I don't think he had anyone else in mind.

He should do things like that more often....

Nebraska fires their AD after an awful start to the season and a couple poor years following his hires. Meanwhile our sports programs have been overall poor for Teis' entire career and he doesn't even have to worry that his job is on the line. The day he leaves is the day our sports have a chance of being relevant again.

(09-22-2017 10:56 AM)CatMom Wrote:  

(09-21-2017 07:53 PM)Free bird Wrote:  And this is always TXST fans go to arguement. Always bringing up all sports school history wins when we are talking about football. Stick to the topic. Nobody cares about those other sports like they do football. UTSA is undefeated against TXST and that's it. It adds insult to injury knowing that TXST was defeated by a second year program also. Tee hee

Maybe because the rivalry was built over those sports? Now you have a football program and it switches to football being the only thing that counts? Maybe for you. Can't help that you have tunnel vision. We still care about winning in all sports that we play UTSA in.

Isn't this a football thread? You can't tell me that all other sports get the same attention for this rivalry than football does. HEB even created this whole thing that they are doing. To me football is where all the hype is at. I just have no interest in soccer, track, or the other sports. You won't see me or many people post about them as much as football. So if you guys have a better overall record in them, congratulations.
I'm personally not a fan of this rivalry thing for football. I just don't think it's a worthy rivalry, no offense. But others see it as a big rivalry and that's fine.

(09-22-2017 01:59 PM)Free bird Wrote:  I just don't think it's a worthy rivalry, no offense. But others see it as a big rivalry and that's fine.

Same.

I'd like to see us develop rivalries with closer peer institutions with better academics and a higher ceiling in athletics than a satellite commuter school that's probably already peaked athletically like utsa.

(09-22-2017 01:59 PM)Free bird Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 10:56 AM)CatMom Wrote:  

(09-21-2017 07:53 PM)Free bird Wrote:  And this is always TXST fans go to arguement. Always bringing up all sports school history wins when we are talking about football. Stick to the topic. Nobody cares about those other sports like they do football. UTSA is undefeated against TXST and that's it. It adds insult to injury knowing that TXST was defeated by a second year program also. Tee hee

Maybe because the rivalry was built over those sports? Now you have a football program and it switches to football being the only thing that counts? Maybe for you. Can't help that you have tunnel vision. We still care about winning in all sports that we play UTSA in.

Isn't this a football thread? You can't tell me that all other sports get the same attention for this rivalry than football does. HEB even created this whole thing that they are doing. To me football is where all the hype is at. I just have no interest in soccer, track, or the other sports. You won't see me or many people post about them as much as football. So if you guys have a better overall record in them, congratulations.
I'm personally not a fan of this rivalry thing for football. I just don't think it's a worthy rivalry, no offense. But others see it as a big rivalry and that's fine.

I agree, imo UTSA is not a worthwhile rivalry in football. No offense but I would much rather develop a rivalry with a flagship campus rather than a UT- (insert city here). UH seems like the best choice but I would rather see games with Rice or SMU than UTSA.

For non-football I'm happy with our UTA rivalry, they are legit in basketball and baseball and always make for a good opponent. UTSA doesn't have the luster it did when we were in the same conference but come on over to the SBC and that would surely change.

(09-22-2017 02:49 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 01:59 PM)Free bird Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 10:56 AM)CatMom Wrote:  

(09-21-2017 07:53 PM)Free bird Wrote:  And this is always TXST fans go to arguement. Always bringing up all sports school history wins when we are talking about football. Stick to the topic. Nobody cares about those other sports like they do football. UTSA is undefeated against TXST and that's it. It adds insult to injury knowing that TXST was defeated by a second year program also. Tee hee

Maybe because the rivalry was built over those sports? Now you have a football program and it switches to football being the only thing that counts? Maybe for you. Can't help that you have tunnel vision. We still care about winning in all sports that we play UTSA in.

Isn't this a football thread? You can't tell me that all other sports get the same attention for this rivalry than football does. HEB even created this whole thing that they are doing. To me football is where all the hype is at. I just have no interest in soccer, track, or the other sports. You won't see me or many people post about them as much as football. So if you guys have a better overall record in them, congratulations.
I'm personally not a fan of this rivalry thing for football. I just don't think it's a worthy rivalry, no offense. But others see it as a big rivalry and that's fine.

I agree, imo UTSA is not a worthwhile rivalry in football. No offense but I would much rather develop a rivalry with a flagship campus rather than a UT- (insert city here). UH seems like the best choice but I would rather see games with Rice or SMU than UTSA.

For non-football I'm happy with our UTA rivalry, they are legit in basketball and baseball and always make for a good opponent. UTSA doesn't have the luster it did when we were in the same conference but come on over to the SBC and that would surely change.

None of the teams you mentioned is going to care about having a rivalry with you though...

(09-22-2017 03:20 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  None of the teams you mentioned is going to care about having a rivalry with you though...

We had a nice little mini rivalry going with UH from 2010-2016. Those were awesome games and the smack was great. Probably because of the smack that went on.

(09-22-2017 03:20 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 02:49 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 01:59 PM)Free bird Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 10:56 AM)CatMom Wrote:  

(09-21-2017 07:53 PM)Free bird Wrote:  And this is always TXST fans go to arguement. Always bringing up all sports school history wins when we are talking about football. Stick to the topic. Nobody cares about those other sports like they do football. UTSA is undefeated against TXST and that's it. It adds insult to injury knowing that TXST was defeated by a second year program also. Tee hee

Maybe because the rivalry was built over those sports? Now you have a football program and it switches to football being the only thing that counts? Maybe for you. Can't help that you have tunnel vision. We still care about winning in all sports that we play UTSA in.

Isn't this a football thread? You can't tell me that all other sports get the same attention for this rivalry than football does. HEB even created this whole thing that they are doing. To me football is where all the hype is at. I just have no interest in soccer, track, or the other sports. You won't see me or many people post about them as much as football. So if you guys have a better overall record in them, congratulations.
I'm personally not a fan of this rivalry thing for football. I just don't think it's a worthy rivalry, no offense. But others see it as a big rivalry and that's fine.

I agree, imo UTSA is not a worthwhile rivalry in football. No offense but I would much rather develop a rivalry with a flagship campus rather than a UT- (insert city here). UH seems like the best choice but I would rather see games with Rice or SMU than UTSA.

For non-football I'm happy with our UTA rivalry, they are legit in basketball and baseball and always make for a good opponent. UTSA doesn't have the luster it did when we were in the same conference but come on over to the SBC and that would surely change.

None of the teams you mentioned is going to care about having a rivalry with you though...

Why? Because we're not good right now? We're sitting on the floor of our potential. As a large and centrally located university our on the field product is the only thing holding us back. If we get even remotely good we would be a prime opponent for any G5 in the state. UTSA has a burnt orange ceiling and can be UAB'd if the UT boosters feel even remotely threatened. That is not what I would consider ideal for growing a rivalry with and I bet other schools feel the same. Once Applewhite gets plucked up to a P5 program and UH comes down to reality the TXST - UH matchup looks better than substituting UTSA in for either school.

(09-22-2017 04:44 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 03:20 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 02:49 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 01:59 PM)Free bird Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 10:56 AM)CatMom Wrote:  Maybe because the rivalry was built over those sports? Now you have a football program and it switches to football being the only thing that counts? Maybe for you. Can't help that you have tunnel vision. We still care about winning in all sports that we play UTSA in.

Isn't this a football thread? You can't tell me that all other sports get the same attention for this rivalry than football does. HEB even created this whole thing that they are doing. To me football is where all the hype is at. I just have no interest in soccer, track, or the other sports. You won't see me or many people post about them as much as football. So if you guys have a better overall record in them, congratulations.
I'm personally not a fan of this rivalry thing for football. I just don't think it's a worthy rivalry, no offense. But others see it as a big rivalry and that's fine.

I agree, imo UTSA is not a worthwhile rivalry in football. No offense but I would much rather develop a rivalry with a flagship campus rather than a UT- (insert city here). UH seems like the best choice but I would rather see games with Rice or SMU than UTSA.

For non-football I'm happy with our UTA rivalry, they are legit in basketball and baseball and always make for a good opponent. UTSA doesn't have the luster it did when we were in the same conference but come on over to the SBC and that would surely change.

None of the teams you mentioned is going to care about having a rivalry with you though...

Why? Because we're not good right now? We're sitting on the floor of our potential. As a large and centrally located university our on the field product is the only thing holding us back. If we get even remotely good we would be a prime opponent for any G5 in the state. UTSA has a burnt orange ceiling and can be UAB'd if the UT boosters feel even remotely threatened. That is not what I would consider ideal for growing a rivalry with and I bet other schools feel the same. Once Applewhite gets plucked up to a P5 program and UH comes down to reality the TXST - UH matchup looks better than substituting UTSA in for either school.

I must say that looming burnt orange ceiling of our mothership has always weighed on my mind, even before the UAB debacle. As it is, the UT system is a joke compared to the University of California system.

Sorry, someone posted this on Twitter, couldn't help myself

Zimbabwe Traditional Road Runner Stew

BUt seriously SMU and UH will never want to consider TXST, UTEP, UTSA, UNT rivals or equals. They are "P6" teams that will all see themselves as Big XII equals the same way we see ourselves as equals with them.

(09-22-2017 05:30 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 04:44 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 03:20 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 02:49 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 01:59 PM)Free bird Wrote:  Isn't this a football thread? You can't tell me that all other sports get the same attention for this rivalry than football does. HEB even created this whole thing that they are doing. To me football is where all the hype is at. I just have no interest in soccer, track, or the other sports. You won't see me or many people post about them as much as football. So if you guys have a better overall record in them, congratulations.
I'm personally not a fan of this rivalry thing for football. I just don't think it's a worthy rivalry, no offense. But others see it as a big rivalry and that's fine.

I agree, imo UTSA is not a worthwhile rivalry in football. No offense but I would much rather develop a rivalry with a flagship campus rather than a UT- (insert city here). UH seems like the best choice but I would rather see games with Rice or SMU than UTSA.

For non-football I'm happy with our UTA rivalry, they are legit in basketball and baseball and always make for a good opponent. UTSA doesn't have the luster it did when we were in the same conference but come on over to the SBC and that would surely change.

None of the teams you mentioned is going to care about having a rivalry with you though...

Why? Because we're not good right now? We're sitting on the floor of our potential. As a large and centrally located university our on the field product is the only thing holding us back. If we get even remotely good we would be a prime opponent for any G5 in the state. UTSA has a burnt orange ceiling and can be UAB'd if the UT boosters feel even remotely threatened. That is not what I would consider ideal for growing a rivalry with and I bet other schools feel the same. Once Applewhite gets plucked up to a P5 program and UH comes down to reality the TXST - UH matchup looks better than substituting UTSA in for either school.

I must say that looming burnt orange ceiling of our mothership has always weighed on my mind, even before the UAB debacle. As it is, the UT system is a joke compared to the University of California system.

The UT System is a **** ton better than the confederation of misfits that belong to the "Texas State System" that got it's name from a Texas A&M yard sale.

(09-22-2017 05:49 PM)LRP Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 05:30 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 04:44 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 03:20 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 02:49 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  I agree, imo UTSA is not a worthwhile rivalry in football. No offense but I would much rather develop a rivalry with a flagship campus rather than a UT- (insert city here). UH seems like the best choice but I would rather see games with Rice or SMU than UTSA.

For non-football I'm happy with our UTA rivalry, they are legit in basketball and baseball and always make for a good opponent. UTSA doesn't have the luster it did when we were in the same conference but come on over to the SBC and that would surely change.

None of the teams you mentioned is going to care about having a rivalry with you though...

Why? Because we're not good right now? We're sitting on the floor of our potential. As a large and centrally located university our on the field product is the only thing holding us back. If we get even remotely good we would be a prime opponent for any G5 in the state. UTSA has a burnt orange ceiling and can be UAB'd if the UT boosters feel even remotely threatened. That is not what I would consider ideal for growing a rivalry with and I bet other schools feel the same. Once Applewhite gets plucked up to a P5 program and UH comes down to reality the TXST - UH matchup looks better than substituting UTSA in for either school.

I must say that looming burnt orange ceiling of our mothership has always weighed on my mind, even before the UAB debacle. As it is, the UT system is a joke compared to the University of California system.

The UT System is a **** ton better than the confederation of misfits that belong to the "Texas State System" that got it's name from a Texas A&M yard sale.

I mean when your flagship is UT I would hope it is. Too bad all the schools in UTs orbit have the same school colors.

(09-22-2017 05:50 PM)slycat Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 05:49 PM)LRP Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 05:30 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 04:44 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 03:20 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  None of the teams you mentioned is going to care about having a rivalry with you though...

Why? Because we're not good right now? We're sitting on the floor of our potential. As a large and centrally located university our on the field product is the only thing holding us back. If we get even remotely good we would be a prime opponent for any G5 in the state. UTSA has a burnt orange ceiling and can be UAB'd if the UT boosters feel even remotely threatened. That is not what I would consider ideal for growing a rivalry with and I bet other schools feel the same. Once Applewhite gets plucked up to a P5 program and UH comes down to reality the TXST - UH matchup looks better than substituting UTSA in for either school.

I must say that looming burnt orange ceiling of our mothership has always weighed on my mind, even before the UAB debacle. As it is, the UT system is a joke compared to the University of California system.

The UT System is a **** ton better than the confederation of misfits that belong to the "Texas State System" that got it's name from a Texas A&M yard sale.

I mean when your flagship is UT I would hope it is.

I would expect so too considering you guys are affiliated with Sul Ross, Sam Houston and Gary Job Corps.

(09-22-2017 05:55 PM)LRP Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 05:50 PM)slycat Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 05:49 PM)LRP Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 05:30 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 04:44 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  Why? Because we're not good right now? We're sitting on the floor of our potential. As a large and centrally located university our on the field product is the only thing holding us back. If we get even remotely good we would be a prime opponent for any G5 in the state. UTSA has a burnt orange ceiling and can be UAB'd if the UT boosters feel even remotely threatened. That is not what I would consider ideal for growing a rivalry with and I bet other schools feel the same. Once Applewhite gets plucked up to a P5 program and UH comes down to reality the TXST - UH matchup looks better than substituting UTSA in for either school.

I must say that looming burnt orange ceiling of our mothership has always weighed on my mind, even before the UAB debacle. As it is, the UT system is a joke compared to the University of California system.

The UT System is a **** ton better than the confederation of misfits that belong to the "Texas State System" that got it's name from a Texas A&M yard sale.

I mean when your flagship is UT I would hope it is.

I would expect so too considering you guys are affiliated with Sul Ross, Sam Houston and Gary Job Corps.

At least our athletic programs don't play in Dump Facilities . . .

You guys have to rent a football facility . . .

Your baseball and basketball Facilities are garbage, why don't you pull out your tin cup and see if you can beg for some facility funds from your mothership campus . .

No, it's not worthy to me because TXST and UTSA are not even in the same conference. Both conferences are at the bottom out of all conferences, but Sunbelt is dead last. https://athlonsports.com/college-footbal...r-rankings
Only one team will benefit from the win. If UIW had a rivalry with TXST, TXST will most likely win every time which does nothing for them. But at some point if UIW wins, it makes TXST look bad and UIW gets hyped up.
Same thing if UTSA has a Rivalry with Houston. Houston most likely would have won this year and if that was the case, then it would mean nothing to them but a W and maybe a bit of revenge. But the year UTSA beat them, UTSA was over hyped and didn't do much that season while UH looked bad that game but went in to have a winning season.
So now if UTSA beats TXST it won't really mean anything because it doesn't count as a conference W and it doesn't count for anything beating a dead last team in a dead last conference. Now if TXST wins, their fans will start talking about how they will win conference this year but still end up with a losing season. We already started to see a little bit of that after close margin App game.
Cross conference rivalries are just not my ideal rivalry. I'd prefer UNT, UTEP, or la tech over TXST. At least a W would get us closer to a division win and thus means more to the team instead of an OOC bottom 25 win.

(09-22-2017 05:55 PM)LRP Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 05:50 PM)slycat Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 05:49 PM)LRP Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 05:30 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(09-22-2017 04:44 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  Why? Because we're not good right now? We're sitting on the floor of our potential. As a large and centrally located university our on the field product is the only thing holding us back. If we get even remotely good we would be a prime opponent for any G5 in the state. UTSA has a burnt orange ceiling and can be UAB'd if the UT boosters feel even remotely threatened. That is not what I would consider ideal for growing a rivalry with and I bet other schools feel the same. Once Applewhite gets plucked up to a P5 program and UH comes down to reality the TXST - UH matchup looks better than substituting UTSA in for either school.

I must say that looming burnt orange ceiling of our mothership has always weighed on my mind, even before the UAB debacle. As it is, the UT system is a joke compared to the University of California system.

The UT System is a **** ton better than the confederation of misfits that belong to the "Texas State System" that got it's name from a Texas A&M yard sale.

I mean when your flagship is UT I would hope it is.

I would expect so too considering you guys are affiliated with Sul Ross, Sam Houston and Gary Job Corps.

Someone, in every system, has to lead. It just happens to be TXST in this system (cue TT to poke his head in on that response and tell me what for).
You think every UT satellite was (or is) special?

Lamar was "FBS/DI" before you guys even had a school, they just happened to drop football then came back as FCS.

How many other campuses does UTSA have?

We even get to pick our own school colors without a dictate.