(09-17-2017 06:31 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 06:04 PM)Free bird Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 05:45 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 05:32 PM)Free bird Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 05:28 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  Not sure how anyone can predict UTSA to go undefeated based on wins over a downtrodden Baylor and Southern. I fully expected us to be an improved team this year, but I don't know how anyone would expect us to go from 6-7 last year to undefeated in a single year. I do expect us to go into our game against USM undefeated though. At any rate, carry on...

So who are you predicting beats UTSA? Well and it's not only based on two games. It's also based on how other teams are currently doing, this years opponents, recruiting, etc.

I'm not gonna predict jack squat aside from us not going undefeated. It's unreasonable to think we'll go from 6-7 to 12-0 or 13-0 in one year. I won't venture to predict who'll beat us though because it frankly could be anyone. We had blowout wins over USM and MTSU last year, but also struggled to beat a hapless Rice team by a single point, and only because of the Owls' two missed field goals. Then we even lost at home to UTEP.

I don't see us being quite that unpredictable this season, as the continuity of having our current staff a second consecutive season will certainly help in that regard, but undefeated? We're getting ahead of ourselves there. Our offense still has question marks, as does our special teams. I will GUARANTEE you though that if we did go undefeated this year, our entire coaching staff will be somewhere else next season.

Well yeah it may look unreasonable to look at an undeafeated regular season if you are only looking at last year to this year records, which I'm not. I'm not sure if you read the title of the thread, but "after 3 weeks", I only see USM and UNT having a solid chance at beating UTSA. Why you can't make a prediction for the rest of the season games but you can make a prediction about next weeks game makes no sense to me. But ok I respect your opinion.

I'm fully aware of the title of this thread. And 3 weeks for us is two games against teams that are an aggregate 1-5 to start the season, which is hardly anything to base a prediction of an undefeated season on, even if it's taken in conjunction with last year's 6-7 record.

As for predicting a win over Texas State, but not being willing to predict our C-USA portion of the schedule, I have little respect for Texas State as a football program, so little respect for them in fact that I predicted we'd beat them in 2012 (just our second season of football) even though they've had football since 1904. We did just that in 2012, and the game was never really even in question, as we were up 31-14 at one point, and 38-24 with about 3 minutes remaining.

Yeah I remember that game. I was there. Picked them to win as well. But again, I'm not using records to make my predictions. I look at match ups on both sides of the field and against who they are playing and who they have already played. I could give a detailed prediction to every remaining game but I feel that would be over board. This thread is just a simple question to which remaining games will be wins.
It's a little hypocritical to say you won't predict any game because you see it as anything can happen in football and the opponents have only play 3 games, but it's ok to predict next weeks TXST game. If it helps to look at it one game at a time, pretend next weeks game is against USM, then UNT, then Rice, UTEP etc. and tell us who wins. Since you can predict TXST next week, then you should be able to predict the rest since we are only considering the match ups as of right now, "after week 3".

(09-17-2017 06:54 PM)Free bird Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 06:31 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 06:04 PM)Free bird Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 05:45 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 05:32 PM)Free bird Wrote:  So who are you predicting beats UTSA? Well and it's not only based on two games. It's also based on how other teams are currently doing, this years opponents, recruiting, etc.

I'm not gonna predict jack squat aside from us not going undefeated. It's unreasonable to think we'll go from 6-7 to 12-0 or 13-0 in one year. I won't venture to predict who'll beat us though because it frankly could be anyone. We had blowout wins over USM and MTSU last year, but also struggled to beat a hapless Rice team by a single point, and only because of the Owls' two missed field goals. Then we even lost at home to UTEP.

I don't see us being quite that unpredictable this season, as the continuity of having our current staff a second consecutive season will certainly help in that regard, but undefeated? We're getting ahead of ourselves there. Our offense still has question marks, as does our special teams. I will GUARANTEE you though that if we did go undefeated this year, our entire coaching staff will be somewhere else next season.

Well yeah it may look unreasonable to look at an undeafeated regular season if you are only looking at last year to this year records, which I'm not. I'm not sure if you read the title of the thread, but "after 3 weeks", I only see USM and UNT having a solid chance at beating UTSA. Why you can't make a prediction for the rest of the season games but you can make a prediction about next weeks game makes no sense to me. But ok I respect your opinion.

I'm fully aware of the title of this thread. And 3 weeks for us is two games against teams that are an aggregate 1-5 to start the season, which is hardly anything to base a prediction of an undefeated season on, even if it's taken in conjunction with last year's 6-7 record.

As for predicting a win over Texas State, but not being willing to predict our C-USA portion of the schedule, I have little respect for Texas State as a football program, so little respect for them in fact that I predicted we'd beat them in 2012 (just our second season of football) even though they've had football since 1904. We did just that in 2012, and the game was never really even in question, as we were up 31-14 at one point, and 38-24 with about 3 minutes remaining.

Yeah I remember that game. I was there. Picked them to win as well. But again, I'm not using records to make my predictions. I look at match ups on both sides of the field and against who they are playing and who they have already played. I could give a detailed prediction to every remaining game but I feel that would be over board. This thread is just a simple question to which remaining games will be wins.
It's a little hypocritical to say you won't predict any game because you see it as anything can happen in football and the opponents have only play 3 games, but it's ok to predict next weeks TXST game. If it helps to look at it one game at a time, pretend next weeks game is against USM, then UNT, then Rice, UTEP etc. and tell us who wins. Since you can predict TXST next week, then you should be able to predict the rest since we are only considering the match ups as of right now, "after week 3".

Not hypocritical at all, as I thought I explained myself on that. I don't respect Texas State football. I do have enough respect for C-USA teams to not be brazen enough to predict wins for the rest of the year though, regardless of how anyone looks right now.

If you've been on RowdyTalk for any amount of time, you'll know I RARELY predict games or even attendance. In all the years I've been on there, I might've predicted the outcomes of an aggregate three games. And my prediction today of a win over Texas State next week is probably the first game I've ever predicted on this site. If I have predicted some other game in the past, I sure don't remember it. You just won't get anything else out of me aside from what I said.

(09-17-2017 07:25 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 06:54 PM)Free bird Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 06:31 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 06:04 PM)Free bird Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 05:45 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  I'm not gonna predict jack squat aside from us not going undefeated. It's unreasonable to think we'll go from 6-7 to 12-0 or 13-0 in one year. I won't venture to predict who'll beat us though because it frankly could be anyone. We had blowout wins over USM and MTSU last year, but also struggled to beat a hapless Rice team by a single point, and only because of the Owls' two missed field goals. Then we even lost at home to UTEP.

I don't see us being quite that unpredictable this season, as the continuity of having our current staff a second consecutive season will certainly help in that regard, but undefeated? We're getting ahead of ourselves there. Our offense still has question marks, as does our special teams. I will GUARANTEE you though that if we did go undefeated this year, our entire coaching staff will be somewhere else next season.

Well yeah it may look unreasonable to look at an undeafeated regular season if you are only looking at last year to this year records, which I'm not. I'm not sure if you read the title of the thread, but "after 3 weeks", I only see USM and UNT having a solid chance at beating UTSA. Why you can't make a prediction for the rest of the season games but you can make a prediction about next weeks game makes no sense to me. But ok I respect your opinion.

I'm fully aware of the title of this thread. And 3 weeks for us is two games against teams that are an aggregate 1-5 to start the season, which is hardly anything to base a prediction of an undefeated season on, even if it's taken in conjunction with last year's 6-7 record.

As for predicting a win over Texas State, but not being willing to predict our C-USA portion of the schedule, I have little respect for Texas State as a football program, so little respect for them in fact that I predicted we'd beat them in 2012 (just our second season of football) even though they've had football since 1904. We did just that in 2012, and the game was never really even in question, as we were up 31-14 at one point, and 38-24 with about 3 minutes remaining.

Yeah I remember that game. I was there. Picked them to win as well. But again, I'm not using records to make my predictions. I look at match ups on both sides of the field and against who they are playing and who they have already played. I could give a detailed prediction to every remaining game but I feel that would be over board. This thread is just a simple question to which remaining games will be wins.
It's a little hypocritical to say you won't predict any game because you see it as anything can happen in football and the opponents have only play 3 games, but it's ok to predict next weeks TXST game. If it helps to look at it one game at a time, pretend next weeks game is against USM, then UNT, then Rice, UTEP etc. and tell us who wins. Since you can predict TXST next week, then you should be able to predict the rest since we are only considering the match ups as of right now, "after week 3".

Not hypocritical at all, as I thought I explained myself on that. I don't respect Texas State football. I do have enough respect for C-USA teams to not be brazen enough to predict wins for the rest of the year though, regardless of how anyone looks right now.

If you've been on RowdyTalk for any amount of time, you'll know I RARELY predict games or even attendance. In all the years I've been on there, I might've predicted the outcomes of an aggregate three games. And my prediction today of a win over Texas State next week is probably the first game I've ever predicted on this site. If I have predicted some other game in the past, I sure don't remember it. You just won't get anything else out of me aside from what I said.

I understand. I can respect that you don't want to offer a prediction on a thread that's purpose is to make a prediction...
It begs the question, then why are you here if you are not going to contribute?

(09-17-2017 07:38 PM)Free bird Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 07:25 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 06:54 PM)Free bird Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 06:31 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 06:04 PM)Free bird Wrote:  Well yeah it may look unreasonable to look at an undeafeated regular season if you are only looking at last year to this year records, which I'm not. I'm not sure if you read the title of the thread, but "after 3 weeks", I only see USM and UNT having a solid chance at beating UTSA. Why you can't make a prediction for the rest of the season games but you can make a prediction about next weeks game makes no sense to me. But ok I respect your opinion.

I'm fully aware of the title of this thread. And 3 weeks for us is two games against teams that are an aggregate 1-5 to start the season, which is hardly anything to base a prediction of an undefeated season on, even if it's taken in conjunction with last year's 6-7 record.

As for predicting a win over Texas State, but not being willing to predict our C-USA portion of the schedule, I have little respect for Texas State as a football program, so little respect for them in fact that I predicted we'd beat them in 2012 (just our second season of football) even though they've had football since 1904. We did just that in 2012, and the game was never really even in question, as we were up 31-14 at one point, and 38-24 with about 3 minutes remaining.

Yeah I remember that game. I was there. Picked them to win as well. But again, I'm not using records to make my predictions. I look at match ups on both sides of the field and against who they are playing and who they have already played. I could give a detailed prediction to every remaining game but I feel that would be over board. This thread is just a simple question to which remaining games will be wins.
It's a little hypocritical to say you won't predict any game because you see it as anything can happen in football and the opponents have only play 3 games, but it's ok to predict next weeks TXST game. If it helps to look at it one game at a time, pretend next weeks game is against USM, then UNT, then Rice, UTEP etc. and tell us who wins. Since you can predict TXST next week, then you should be able to predict the rest since we are only considering the match ups as of right now, "after week 3".

Not hypocritical at all, as I thought I explained myself on that. I don't respect Texas State football. I do have enough respect for C-USA teams to not be brazen enough to predict wins for the rest of the year though, regardless of how anyone looks right now.

If you've been on RowdyTalk for any amount of time, you'll know I RARELY predict games or even attendance. In all the years I've been on there, I might've predicted the outcomes of an aggregate three games. And my prediction today of a win over Texas State next week is probably the first game I've ever predicted on this site. If I have predicted some other game in the past, I sure don't remember it. You just won't get anything else out of me aside from what I said.

I understand. I can respect that you don't want to offer a prediction on a thread that's purpose is to make a prediction...
It begs the question, then why are you here if you are not going to contribute?

The title of the thread is "After 3 Weeks... Which Games Will You Win?" I predicted we will win against Texas State. The other games just aren't games I'll predict for all the reasons I've already stated. So while I won't predict as many games as you, I did offer something.

Aside from that, I also just wanted to state my objection to those who predict us to go undefeated. These sorts of threads are always, by default, open for discussion of the predictions others make, right? Just as you're objecting to me predicting a mere one game right now in this discussion.

I feel we've monopolized the content of this thread for long enough now, and I'm sure there are surely some who are growing tired of our conversation. So can we finally leave it at this, without further scrutiny, as it would only take us for more loops around the circle we've already traveled?

(09-17-2017 06:31 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 06:04 PM)Free bird Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 05:45 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 05:32 PM)Free bird Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 05:28 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  Not sure how anyone can predict UTSA to go undefeated based on wins over a downtrodden Baylor and Southern. I fully expected us to be an improved team this year, but I don't know how anyone would expect us to go from 6-7 last year to undefeated in a single year. I do expect us to go into our game against USM undefeated though. At any rate, carry on...

So who are you predicting beats UTSA? Well and it's not only based on two games. It's also based on how other teams are currently doing, this years opponents, recruiting, etc.

I'm not gonna predict jack squat aside from us not going undefeated. It's unreasonable to think we'll go from 6-7 to 12-0 or 13-0 in one year. I won't venture to predict who'll beat us though because it frankly could be anyone. We had blowout wins over USM and MTSU last year, but also struggled to beat a hapless Rice team by a single point, and only because of the Owls' two missed field goals. Then we even lost at home to UTEP.

I don't see us being quite that unpredictable this season, as the continuity of having our current staff a second consecutive season will certainly help in that regard, but undefeated? We're getting ahead of ourselves there. Our offense still has question marks, as does our special teams. I will GUARANTEE you though that if we did go undefeated this year, our entire coaching staff will be somewhere else next season.

Well yeah it may look unreasonable to look at an undeafeated regular season if you are only looking at last year to this year records, which I'm not. I'm not sure if you read the title of the thread, but "after 3 weeks", I only see USM and UNT having a solid chance at beating UTSA. Why you can't make a prediction for the rest of the season games but you can make a prediction about next weeks game makes no sense to me. But ok I respect your opinion.

I'm fully aware of the title of this thread. And 3 weeks for us is two games against teams that are an aggregate 1-5 to start the season, which is hardly anything to base a prediction of an undefeated season on, especially if it's taken in conjunction with last year's 6-7 record.

As for predicting a win over Texas State, but not being willing to predict our C-USA portion of the schedule, I have little respect for Texas State as a football program, so little respect for them in fact that I predicted we'd beat them in 2012 (just our second season of football) even though they've had football since 1904. We did just that in 2012, and the game was never really even in question, as we were up 31-14 at one point, and 38-24 with about 3 minutes remaining.

Very convincing argument. I have changed my mind. In light of your stated facts, I think the West is a fairly wide open race. UTSA, LA Tech, Southern Miss, UAB, and North Texas seem to have the inside track, but Rice is also 1-0 in conference play, so I won't count them out either.

My hunch? We win @CLT and home against Rice and UTEP. Really think we can steal one of the La Tech/MT homestand. Remaining, ranked in probability of winning: @UNT, @USM, @UTSA, @Florida. 6 wins is very doable...possibly 7 or 5.

4-4 or 5-3 in CUSA.

Tough to say, I say we lose one on the road this year. No team looks to be dominant. UTSA will not go undefeated lol. I certainly like our chances against anyone in CUSA, especially at home. Wins against UTSA, UNT, FAU, loss to either UAB or Rice on the road and loss to USM at home

USM is 2-1. Our remaining schedule:

vs. UNT W
@ UTSA W (payback!!! )
vs. UTEP W
@ LT W (it's what we do vs LT)
vs. UAB W
@ Tenn L
@ Rice W
vs. UNCC W (payback!!! )
@ Marshall W (in a close game)
host MTSU in CUSACG W (THE ROCK WILL BE ROCKIN'!!!)

TTT...

(09-17-2017 04:25 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  3 Weeks are in the books. I think we have a better idea of how our teams are looking. Predict your record against the remainder of your schedule. Who do you beat? Who do you lose to?

We win all of them

Volkmar, I agree that our conversation feels like it's never ending. And I want to have the discussion that you mentioned is appropriate, but you are simply refusing to have that discussion. To say that you are able to predict the TXST game by reason of merely not having "respect" for the team, which has nothing to do with the outcome of a football game, baffles me. If you can discuss TXST, then you can discuss the rest. Unless you don't know anything about the other opponents which is ok if you aren't criticizing others as if you can confidently discuss it.
For most, there is no accountability on this forum. We are here to talk football. Over half of the threads are prediction threads. ITS OK IF YOUR PICK TURNS OUT WRONG. It's almost as if you are playing the safe card. "If you don't make a prediction, then nobody can judge or criticize you".
You can take it one game at a time if it helps, starting with USM. Yes, it is still early and they have only played two games, USM three, but that doesn't mean you don't have any data. You said it yourself, questions in offense and special teams. So if that's your concern right NOW, how would UTSA match up with USM TODAY? That's what this threads about. Don't go around saying it's unrealistic to make a prediction three games into a football season when you refuse to even offer a rebuttal. And like I said, in the two games we have played and three the others have played, everyone has made observations that CAN be used to make predictions. I mean, every week there are multiple match up threads based off of previous performances. I have yet to see a prediction thread based on how someone's feeling are toward the respect level of their opponent.
So it would be very informative if you would predict "games", not A "game", so you can appropriately contribute to the thread instead of making statements that get us nowhere.

WoW, almost a whole thread of 2 UTSA guys in a pissing match on if they go undefeated or not. My guess is: Or Not.

Right now I am sticking UTSA in the West and easing towards Marshall in the East. However, Tech has all their so called tough West games at home....

Despite our apparent knack for shooting ourselves in the foot with dumb penalties and muffed punts, i think we can beat UAB, USM, FAU, ODU, Rice, and UTEP. UTSA and LA Tech will be tough as always and who knows with Army. We'll probably lose one we shouldnt and win one we shouldnt, as per UNT standard protocol.

I think we ( UTSA ) lose to UNT, LA Tech, USM, & maybe Marshall.

I think our defense is just as good in not better than 2014 and 15, both years we had the #1 defense in the conference and a top 30 defense in the nation. If we start scoring more points I think we can be good enough to beat anyone on the rest of our schedule. To be honest no one on our remaining schedule scares me and makes me say "Yep that's a loss". Will we win them all, not a chance.

He's trying to not be a total homer like you Freebird, at least be realistic. Side Show Joe is guilty of being totally unrealistic too.

(09-17-2017 08:53 PM)Free bird Wrote:  Volkmar, I agree that our conversation feels like it's never ending. And I want to have the discussion that you mentioned is appropriate, but you are simply refusing to have that discussion. To say that you are able to predict the TXST game by reason of merely not having "respect" for the team, which has nothing to do with the outcome of a football game, baffles me. If you can discuss TXST, then you can discuss the rest. Unless you don't know anything about the other opponents which is ok if you aren't criticizing others as if you can confidently discuss it.
For most, there is no accountability on this forum. We are here to talk football. Over half of the threads are prediction threads. ITS OK IF YOUR PICK TURNS OUT WRONG. It's almost as if you are playing the safe card. "If you don't make a prediction, then nobody can judge or criticize you".
You can take it one game at a time if it helps, starting with USM. Yes, it is still early and they have only played two games, USM three, but that doesn't mean you don't have any data. You said it yourself, questions in offense and special teams. So if that's your concern right NOW, how would UTSA match up with USM TODAY? That's what this threads about. Don't go around saying it's unrealistic to make a prediction three games into a football season when you refuse to even offer a rebuttal. And like I said, in the two games we have played and three the others have played, everyone has made observations that CAN be used to make predictions. I mean, every week there are multiple match up threads based off of previous performances. I have yet to see a prediction thread based on how someone's feeling are toward the respect level of their opponent.
So it would be very informative if you would predict "games", not A "game", so you can appropriately contribute to the thread instead of making statements that get us nowhere.

Stay healthy + Reduce self-inflicted wounds + Improve in the passing game = Bowl?

Dead on!

(09-17-2017 04:25 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  3 Weeks are in the books. I think we have a better idea of how our teams are looking. Predict your record against the remainder of your schedule. Who do you beat? Who do you lose to?

Is this a trick question? I don't think we beat anyone right now.