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Bubas Cup 2017-2018
First some notes on how points are awarded.


Bubas Cup Rules

The following is copied and pasted straight from the Sun Belt website.

SCORING: Points for the Bubas Cup are awarded based on regular season finish for sports that have a regular season conference schedule. Points are awarded based on Sun Belt Championship finish if that sport does not have a regular season conference schedule.

Points are awarded based on the number of schools sponsoring the sport. Institutions not sponsoring a sport do not receive points in that sport. Institutions tying for positions split the combined points of their positions.
For sports that have both a regular season schedule and a conference tournament, one additional point will be awarded to the winner of the conference tournament.

For sports with divisions, the conference records of all teams are ranked and points are awarded regardless of divisional finish.
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Football and Volleyball, both, with 12 schools participating in each sport, awards 12 points for 1st place, 11 points for second place, and so forth down to 1 point for 12th place. Ten of the 18 Sun Belt sponsored sports have 12 schools competing. Men’s Soccer is on the other extreme. Six schools compete in men’s soccer so first place earns 6 points, second place earns 5 points, and so forth.

Schools that tie split the points by adding up the points earned for the tied positions and dividing by the number of schools that tied. And it is not uncommon to have 3- or sometimes 4-way ties.

Men’s Soccer, Women’s Soccer, Volleyball, Women’s Basketball, Men’s Basketball, Softball and Baseball have both a regular season and a championship tournament. The tournament winner decides which school represents the Sun Belt in any NCAA tournament. Bubas Cup points are awarded for the regular season finish in an at-large pool of schools. The tournament winner receives one extra Bubas Cup point.

Football has a regular season but no championship game (yet) so regular season determines the Bubas Cup points for football.

Men’s Cross Country, Women’s Cross Country, Men’s Indoor Track and Field, Women’s Indoor Track and Field, Women’s Golf, Men’s Golf, Men’s Tennis, Women’s Tennis, Men’s Outdoor Track and Field, and Women’s Outdoor Track and Field do not have a regular season that involves any sort of sanctioned round robin competition that would constitute a regular season. The conference championship results alone determine Bubas Cup points.

In the case of tennis the actual Bubas Cup points for teams are also determined by NCAA rankings for any part of the bracket that is not completed for all the seeds. 1st and 2nd place and the corresponding Bubas Cup points would be determined by the conference tournament. Any school placing 3rd place or lower earns Bubas Cup points by NCAA rankings. The end result is that tennis Bubas Cup points are earned by performance and schedule against non Sun Belt Schools, as W-L and SOS in the end determines the NCAA rankings. One can tell the order of the rankings based on the seeds in the tournament.

No Bubas Cup points are awarded to any school that sponsors any sport that is not sponsored by the Sun Belt. Field Hockey and Wrestling for Appalachian is one example. Georgia Southern has rifle and swimming and diving. Many schools have non Sun Belt sports as part of their athletic program.

My spreadsheet does contain a tab that separates Women’s points from Men’s points. That is 100% unofficial but can be interesting to examine. There is also a tab for sports by season. This is also unofficial but again interesting to see how different schools sometimes excel during a certain time of the year.

Finally Unity Points is also unofficial. It is my personal attempt to make every sport count the same. I take the points earned and divide by the points possible for that sport. The conference regular season championship would earn 1.0 unity points or slightly less is there was a tie. A school in the exact middle of the standings would earn 0.5 unity points, and so forth.

I am not aware of any conference that does not sponsor some sort of all-sport competition. It seems every conference does something a bit different. Some conferences make every sport equal weight but the jump in points varies based on the number of schools competing in that sport. (This is very close to my unity points.) Some conferences do the same except the next place only loses one cup point. In that system schools that offer lots of sports can be helped because even last place could be worth 6 or 7 points. Some conferences split the men’s and women’s competitions. (This seems rare but the Southern Conference does this due to The Citadel and VMI not sponsoring many women’s sports.)

There is also a NCAA wide Cup that gives points for NCAA tournament results. (http://www.nacda.com/directorscup/nacda-...oring.html)
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RE: Bubas Cup 2017-2018
I will try and update each week. Obviously this early in the season the numbers mean nothing but feel free to check over the cells and make sure all is correct. There could be some sports I have blacked out but the school competes in that Sun Belt sport this year. I'll correct that as the year progresses or let me know now also works.

I think this will become a sticky at the top of the forum again this year.

There is one other poster that works with Bubas Cup points. This other poster only posts points at the end of each sports season. Their posts may become part of this thread or they may have their own thread again this year.

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RE: Bubas Cup 2017-2018
Updated for 24 September 2017. I added a column for Athletic name. I still sort by the official institution name when doing an ABC sort but the schools that are changing branding I will try and honor that.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...=443223464
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RE: Bubas Cup 2017-2018
Updated through 8:38 AM ET. There are a few games later today.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...edit#gid=0
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RE: Bubas Cup 2017-2018
Updated through 15 October 2017. I am not sure that MSOC is updated from the most recent SB games played, but my points are based on what the SB has posted.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...edit#gid=0
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(10-15-2017 11:26 AM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  Updated through 15 October 2017. I am not sure that MSOC is updated from the most recent SB games played, but my points are based on what the SB has posted.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...edit#gid=0

Thanks for the update
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CCU is last in men’s soccer??
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(10-15-2017 07:51 PM)Tealblood Wrote:  CCU is last in men’s soccer??

I know they lost one match but not sure how up to date the website is to be honest. I know App seems to be missing a match in the standings from the weekend.
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CCU is 1-1 in conference play
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(10-16-2017 04:11 AM)Tealblood Wrote:  CCU is 1-1 in conference play

I'll update next week and hopefully the SB website is also updated. When I did the update yesterday it was showing 0-1. I am not sure how the SB website is updated for scores. It could be a SB employee or it could be each school takes care of their own info, or at least the host school updates scores and a script then updates standings.
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XC season complete with championship yesterday.

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Fall sports are basically over except for the 3 points for MSOC, WSOC and VB tournament winners and football which should see a little bit of movement in the standings and therefore Bubas points.

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Everything for Fall Sports is complete except for Football which will be ending on 2 December, 2017. Then we have a few weeks off with no SB action. SB Basketball starts back up 29 December, 2017.

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Just a few FB games left to end the fall campaign for Bubas Cup points next Saturday.

Bubas Cup 2017-2018 and other interesting stats
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Fall sports and 6 of 18 sports are complete. Nothing really changes until 29 December when SB basketball starts for men and women.

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Appalachian State 44.0
Arkansas State 38.5
UALR 17.0
Coastal Carolina 38.0
Georgia Southern 18.0
Georgia State 25.5
Louisiana 33.0
ULM 13.0
South Alabama 42.0
Texas State 42.0
UTA 21.0
Troy 31.0
Hartwick 3.0
Howard 1.5
Idaho 4.5
New Mexico State 7.0
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No points updated this week and that will be the case until SB basketball starts at the end of December.

But I did add some more stats to the Sports by Season page. Some numbers to see how a school is doing that is not sponsoring all the sports. I am now computing points earned as a percent of Bubas Cup points possible for all sports and just those that a school sponsors. This should be very interesting to see how things turn out for schools that don't sponsor all 18 SB sports. In some cases, things look better and in some cases the schools are still not, shall we shall - shinning.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...edit#gid=0
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RE: Bubas Cup 2017-2018
Not posted in a bit, and very early, but wanted to update some of the stats and other numbers.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...edit#gid=0
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RE: Bubas Cup 2017-2018
Updated through 7 Jan 2018, though still early in basketball conf play.

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