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RE: Game Atmosphere
(10-24-2017 08:32 PM)DWING Wrote:  
(10-24-2017 07:36 PM)monarx Wrote:  
(10-24-2017 02:26 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  
(10-24-2017 01:54 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  Also, we need to start the intro song before the team comes on the field. Not after

Agree the teams entrance has always been weak. They should tighten up the people and band members closer to the game day building instead of stretching the band out to mid field. Get the cheerleaders, flaggers and big blue under the game day building. Keep the team from being seen until big blue, flaggers, smoke and music come out from under the game day building. Also dont have the band over play the song as the team runs out.

Should be in order to the song.... "All aboard! Hahaha".....Big Blue comes running out with the flaggers and cheerleaders.

Then in the song when its " I, I, I, I" and (fades to instrumental) The smoke and fireworks go off. Then the team should run out during the instrumental of the song.

There is nearly 40 seconds of instrumental before the lyrics start.

This. Big Blue should run out with a giant ODU flag at "all aboard" and the team should run out at the first guitar lick

The entrance seemed better the last few years.....for some reason this years has always seemed to be timed poorly....

Also the hype video right before the intro has the same song which confuses the entrance. There needs to be a clearer break between the video and the entrance.
10-25-2017 07:39 AM
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ODU, the intro is not hard to do. There are formulas to this which is why Tech, Clemson, Georgia and many others have cool entrances. Start by having the same thing two seasons in a row. Traditions are born from doing something people like over and over, not by putting a different creative spin on it each year.
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I graduated a few years ago, but when I was a cheerleader all this seemed to be under control.

The Band: Dr. Trevino is very knowledgeable when it comes to football and when to play music vs not play music. The band is also usually very well versed in terms of school pride and basic football/sports knowledge. If this has changed, I wonder what happened. On offense they usually play the first down celebration jingle and a couple of other short between-play jingles. Does Dr. T go around the stadium with the pep band during the second half? Maybe the Drum Majors are the ones leading the band during those times. But even then, those are the band leaders and should know when to play and when not to play. But I'm not there now to see what's going on.

Cheerleaders: When I was on the squad we were told to never stop cheering, unless we were on offense. And even then, we cheered when we had a good play. On defense we were supposed to be loud and stay loud the entire time. I don't know who the new coach is but I've heard the same complaints on here and from other fans that they don't cheer as much. Maybe it's the new culture. We got in trouble if we stopped cheering during my time haha. Also, the national championship is for routines, not sideline cheers. It's much different, but it doesn't excuse the team from not cheering during the game.

Entrance: I used to run one of the flags when the football team ran out onto the field. Every game was different because we never ran out at the same time but it was usually really streamlined and flowed well. We had our pump-up intro video play, we stayed in the tunnel until the football team came out and was standing in the tunnel ready to run out (at that point we walked a little out of the tunnel with our flags ready), and once we heard "ALL ABOARD..." we waited for the signal, and usually we ran out when the main riff started. That played for a bit, and then the band played the fight song.

Once I was done cheering and watched from the stands, I noticed that there was a lack of consistency with the song and when the players ran out. I don't see why we have such a difficult time figuring this out. It should be intro video, "ALL ABOARD", fireworks/smoke during the songs intro bass line, then run out when the guitar kicks in. Every time. I've seen the football team run out while "ALL ABOARD" is playing, while the lyrics start, etc. We all know how epic VT's Enter Sandman is. It wouldn't be as epic if they ran out during the first riff or before the heavy riff started. They time it perfectly which builds up the suspense and makes the fans go crazy. I'm not a fan of Crazy Train but if we're using it we might as well use it right.

Maybe it was because the CAA was small-time, but I remember going to away games as a cheerleader and watching all the in-game production other schools had (or lack thereof for some) and thinking that ODU's in-game production was top-notch. I don't know why the quality has seemed to go down over the years, when we should have perfected it by this time.


Lastly, there is no excuse from the scoreboard operator. Most football fans know not to cheer when we're on offense but if you put a big fat graphic on the jumbotron to make noise during a crucial 4th quarter offensive drive, that is a huge mistake. Didn't Peyton Manning complain about this exact scenario a few years ago with Denver?



I understand ODU's football honeymoon phase is over, and fans' interest waning is understandable. But that shouldn't mean that the in-game production quality should go down as well. Crowd enthusiasm/student and total turnout/on-field production or lack thereof/etc are all things the gameday production team can't control. But the entrance, the cheerleaders, the band, the jumbotron and other things are things they can control. It should be consistent and they should be dedicated to making the in-game experience as enjoyable as possible, even if the team is getting blown out by 30
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(10-25-2017 06:01 PM)MonGNARch Wrote:  Lastly, there is no excuse from the scoreboard operator. Most football fans know not to cheer when we're on offense but if you put a big fat graphic on the jumbotron to make noise during a crucial 4th quarter offensive drive, that is a huge mistake. Didn't Peyton Manning complain about this exact scenario a few years ago with Denver?

It's really not all that different than letting the visiting team buy up all the seats under one of the rims at the Ted. And then brag when they vote our building as one of the best mid-sized arenas in the free world.

Making visitors feel right at home is what we do at ODU.
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(10-25-2017 06:01 PM)MonGNARch Wrote:  I graduated a few years ago, but when I was a cheerleader all this seemed to be under control.

The Band: Dr. Trevino is very knowledgeable when it comes to football and when to play music vs not play music. The band is also usually very well versed in terms of school pride and basic football/sports knowledge. If this has changed, I wonder what happened. On offense they usually play the first down celebration jingle and a couple of other short between-play jingles. Does Dr. T go around the stadium with the pep band during the second half? Maybe the Drum Majors are the ones leading the band during those times. But even then, those are the band leaders and should know when to play and when not to play. But I'm not there now to see what's going on.

Cheerleaders: When I was on the squad we were told to never stop cheering, unless we were on offense. And even then, we cheered when we had a good play. On defense we were supposed to be loud and stay loud the entire time. I don't know who the new coach is but I've heard the same complaints on here and from other fans that they don't cheer as much. Maybe it's the new culture. We got in trouble if we stopped cheering during my time haha. Also, the national championship is for routines, not sideline cheers. It's much different, but it doesn't excuse the team from not cheering during the game.

Entrance: I used to run one of the flags when the football team ran out onto the field. Every game was different because we never ran out at the same time but it was usually really streamlined and flowed well. We had our pump-up intro video play, we stayed in the tunnel until the football team came out and was standing in the tunnel ready to run out (at that point we walked a little out of the tunnel with our flags ready), and once we heard "ALL ABOARD..." we waited for the signal, and usually we ran out when the main riff started. That played for a bit, and then the band played the fight song.

Once I was done cheering and watched from the stands, I noticed that there was a lack of consistency with the song and when the players ran out. I don't see why we have such a difficult time figuring this out. It should be intro video, "ALL ABOARD", fireworks/smoke during the songs intro bass line, then run out when the guitar kicks in. Every time. I've seen the football team run out while "ALL ABOARD" is playing, while the lyrics start, etc. We all know how epic VT's Enter Sandman is. It wouldn't be as epic if they ran out during the first riff or before the heavy riff started. They time it perfectly which builds up the suspense and makes the fans go crazy. I'm not a fan of Crazy Train but if we're using it we might as well use it right.

Maybe it was because the CAA was small-time, but I remember going to away games as a cheerleader and watching all the in-game production other schools had (or lack thereof for some) and thinking that ODU's in-game production was top-notch. I don't know why the quality has seemed to go down over the years, when we should have perfected it by this time.


Lastly, there is no excuse from the scoreboard operator. Most football fans know not to cheer when we're on offense but if you put a big fat graphic on the jumbotron to make noise during a crucial 4th quarter offensive drive, that is a huge mistake. Didn't Peyton Manning complain about this exact scenario a few years ago with Denver?



I understand ODU's football honeymoon phase is over, and fans' interest waning is understandable. But that shouldn't mean that the in-game production quality should go down as well. Crowd enthusiasm/student and total turnout/on-field production or lack thereof/etc are all things the gameday production team can't control. But the entrance, the cheerleaders, the band, the jumbotron and other things are things they can control. It should be consistent and they should be dedicated to making the in-game experience as enjoyable as possible, even if the team is getting blown out by 30
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Total agreement on this as I was wondering "Am I missing something"
You just don't do this to your team or fans.....04-jawdrop
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RE: Game Atmosphere
To me it just seems that the Team Entrance has become a bloated, overproduced show. For most games we are lucky if the stadium is 60-70% full for the entrance (late arriving folks + sold seats that never show) and then we start this production that has more components than the one at VT. The folks who are there are just not that into it, and again, not that many people in our stadium anyway. K.I.S.S. would work better IMHO.
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Part of the problem, I think, is the control room is at the Ted. Not that that's an excuse; it shouldn't be that hard to communicate timing consistently. But running things from a few blocks away can't help.
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(10-26-2017 07:39 AM)ETSUDB8-79 Wrote:  To me it just seems that the Team Entrance has become a bloated, overproduced show. For most games we are lucky if the stadium is 60-70% full for the entrance (late arriving folks + sold seats that never show) and then we start this production that has more components than the one at VT. The folks who are there are just not that into it, and again, not that many people in our stadium anyway. K.I.S.S. would work better IMHO.

I disagree that our intro is overproduced. Its just not timed right. ECU, NCSU, Maryland all seem to have very extravagant intros. Ours could be condensed, but I think it could also have more impact. Especially if the timer was actually on time, the music synched right etc, the fireworks going off to the beat of the music. And what happened to the 12th Monarch flag? College football is as much about pageantry as anything else.
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(10-26-2017 08:50 AM)MonarchCAM Wrote:  Part of the problem, I think, is the control room is at the Ted. Not that that's an excuse; it shouldn't be that hard to communicate timing consistently. But running things from a few blocks away can't help.

Hopefully this will change with the new stadium too.
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We need Big Blue to engage with the dance team and during a long timeout do a dance routine. Check out the Oregon Ducks mascot.
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(10-26-2017 08:50 AM)MonarchCAM Wrote:  Part of the problem, I think, is the control room is at the Ted. Not that that's an excuse; it shouldn't be that hard to communicate timing consistently. But running things from a few blocks away can't help.

That actually explains a lot for me. Hopefully, the new stadium will include a new control room for the scoreboard.
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(10-29-2017 07:59 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  We need Big Blue to engage with the dance team and during a long timeout do a dance routine. Check out the Oregon Ducks mascot.





Bid Blue did it before it was "cool" 03-old

The Duck did what the BYU cougar did a few weeks ago. I'm sure it's happened a bunch of times before but no one has documented it like today in the age of social media and viral videos
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(10-30-2017 05:35 PM)MonGNARch Wrote:  
(10-29-2017 07:59 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  We need Big Blue to engage with the dance team and during a long timeout do a dance routine. Check out the Oregon Ducks mascot.





Bid Blue did it before it was "cool" 03-old

The Duck did what the BYU cougar did a few weeks ago. I'm sure it's happened a bunch of times before but no one has documented it like today in the age of social media and viral videos

That was cool and the crowd LOVED it. You think we would have seen it more often.
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Do you think the Virginia Zoo would part with a lion for home games? Louisa High School at one time had a lion in a cage at their games. So it's not like it has to do a lion impression of Ralphie the Buffalo at Colorado. Though I'm not saying they shouldn't.
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(10-30-2017 06:09 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  Do you think the Virginia Zoo would part with a lion for home games? Louisa High School at one time had a lion in a cage at their games. So it's not like it has to do a lion impression of Ralphie the Buffalo at Colorado. Though I'm not saying they shouldn't.

That is interesting thinking !
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(10-30-2017 06:16 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  
(10-30-2017 06:09 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  Do you think the Virginia Zoo would part with a lion for home games? Louisa High School at one time had a lion in a cage at their games. So it's not like it has to do a lion impression of Ralphie the Buffalo at Colorado. Though I'm not saying they shouldn't.

That is interesting thinking !

I always thought it would be cool if they built a small lion habitat outside of the stadium and brought the lion over on game day. I would imagine the zoo would say it was too stressful on the animal to cart him a couple miles down the road, but man, how cool would that be. It would be great promo for the zoo as well.
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So, this isn't "atmosphere" per se, but am I the only one bothered by the bag checking they started the last couple of years? I don't carry a purse, so I get to walk right in, but I think it is a complete waste of everyone's time. What exactly are they looking for? They made my wife dump her water bottle, which in itself isn't a big deal, but I could have walked in with a fifth of whisky in my pocket and they wouldn't have known, so what is the purpose?
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(10-30-2017 06:36 PM)monarx Wrote:  
(10-30-2017 06:16 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  
(10-30-2017 06:09 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  Do you think the Virginia Zoo would part with a lion for home games? Louisa High School at one time had a lion in a cage at their games. So it's not like it has to do a lion impression of Ralphie the Buffalo at Colorado. Though I'm not saying they shouldn't.

That is interesting thinking !

I always thought it would be cool if they built a small lion habitat outside of the stadium and brought the lion over on game day. I would imagine the zoo would say it was too stressful on the animal to cart him a couple miles down the road, but man, how cool would that be. It would be great promo for the zoo as well.

Our "friends" at the bottom of Hampton Blvd. would be protesting that 24/7.

(11-11-2017 04:44 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  So, this isn't "atmosphere" per se, but am I the only one bothered by the bag checking they started the last couple of years? I don't carry a purse, so I get to walk right in, but I think it is a complete waste of everyone's time. What exactly are they looking for? They made my wife dump her water bottle, which in itself isn't a big deal, but I could have walked in with a fifth of whisky in my pocket and they wouldn't have known, so what is the purpose?

Security theater at its finest.
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(11-11-2017 04:44 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  So, this isn't "atmosphere" per se, but am I the only one bothered by the bag checking they started the last couple of years? I don't carry a purse, so I get to walk right in, but I think it is a complete waste of everyone's time. What exactly are they looking for? They made my wife dump her water bottle, which in itself isn't a big deal, but I could have walked in with a fifth of whisky in my pocket and they wouldn't have known, so what is the purpose?

That would require a huge pocket. I would guess they are looking for weapons.
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(11-11-2017 04:44 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  So, this isn't "atmosphere" per se, but am I the only one bothered by the bag checking they started the last couple of years? I don't carry a purse, so I get to walk right in, but I think it is a complete waste of everyone's time. What exactly are they looking for? They made my wife dump her water bottle, which in itself isn't a big deal, but I could have walked in with a fifth of whisky in my pocket and they wouldn't have known, so what is the purpose?

I’m honestly surprised we are not getting wanded yet. I would expect a larger security perimeter at Foreman 2.0 so they can build in walk through detectors. It all trickles down from the NHL/NFL/MLB/NBA.
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