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RE: Portland Police Are Purging Gang Database Because There Aren't Enough White Gangs
These so called gang lists on many occasions are nothing more than a bunch of teenagers who tagged the wall of a local 7-11 store.

I cannot count how many times I have had a student who is on the so called gang list of local PD only to find out they got on that list simply because a family member was a gangster or because they lived in the same housing project.
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i would think that the database shouldn't exist in the first place because being a gang member isn't against the law. that whole freedom of assembly. if they commit a crime, then it's another matter
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RE: Portland Police Are Purging Gang Database Because There Aren't Enough White Gangs
(09-11-2017 10:05 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
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Quote:Portland police will no longer maintain a database of suspected gang members, due to concerns that the vast majority of people with the gang label are racial minorities.

Starting Oct. 15, the Portland Police Bureau will end the 20-year practice of issuing gang member designations, which police say can lead to “unintended consequences” and a lifelong stigma even for those who have given up the gang lifestyle. Officials intend to notify the approximately 300 people on the gang list that the bureau will purge all records related to the designations, The Oregonian reported.

City officials and community activists had long urged the bureau to stop attaching the gang designation to criminal suspects, claiming the practice disproportionately impacted people of color.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/10/portla...ite-gangs/

It's called racial profiling and it's lazy police work.

Fit even You know better that this. Gangs are a known commodity in communities. Most White gang members ride Harley Davidsons and wear colors. Easy to spot and track.
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RE: Portland Police Are Purging Gang Database Because There Aren't Enough White Gangs
(09-12-2017 09:57 AM)Lush Wrote:  i would think that the database shouldn't exist in the first place because being a gang member isn't against the law. that whole freedom of assembly. if they commit a crime, then it's another matter

Here's an interesting explanation.

Gang Affiliation Charges: Is Gang Affiliation a Crime?

Quote:Generally, being a member of a gang is not in and of itself illegal; however, it is likely to lead to illegal activity which is generally punished more harshly if there is a gang affiliation. This is because many states define gangs as groups that include a purpose of committing crimes or illegal acts. However, as history has shown, figuring out who is actually in a gang is not easy.

Quote:To fight the gang problem, a majority of states have gang enhancements that can be applied to other criminal charges that will typically make the punishment, if convicted, stricter. Additionally, state and federal law enforcement maintain gang member databases, so that law enforcement can more easily determine if a suspect, arrestee, or detainee is a current or former gang member.


This is interesting:

Quote:The Gang Injunction

When a geographic area is considered a high crime area as a result of gang activity, local governments can seek to have courts order gang Injunctions. These allow the high gang activity areas to be more easily policed by creating a defined set of rules for the area.
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RE: Portland Police Are Purging Gang Database Because There Aren't Enough White Gangs
(09-12-2017 10:04 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 10:05 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-10-2017 11:19 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Quote:Portland police will no longer maintain a database of suspected gang members, due to concerns that the vast majority of people with the gang label are racial minorities.

Starting Oct. 15, the Portland Police Bureau will end the 20-year practice of issuing gang member designations, which police say can lead to “unintended consequences” and a lifelong stigma even for those who have given up the gang lifestyle. Officials intend to notify the approximately 300 people on the gang list that the bureau will purge all records related to the designations, The Oregonian reported.

City officials and community activists had long urged the bureau to stop attaching the gang designation to criminal suspects, claiming the practice disproportionately impacted people of color.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/10/portla...ite-gangs/

It's called racial profiling and it's lazy police work.

Fit even You know better that this. Gangs are a known commodity in communities. Most White gang members ride Harley Davidsons and wear colors. Easy to spot and track.

Funny you should mention bikers. Here locally, we have had a number of shootings at bars involving biker gangs. Some of the one's who were shot were actually touted as heroes because they sometimes rallied for charitable organizations.

How are they any different than MS 13? I wonder if anyone would call them heroes if they were shot?


Of course, we know the real reason why.............

Because biker gangs look like this
[Image: 6af6f70daed83cabf515d3af05ca20b6.jpg]


And MS 13 looks like this................

[Image: 4-17-17-ms13.jpg]
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RE: Portland Police Are Purging Gang Database Because There Aren't Enough White Gangs
(09-12-2017 10:28 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 10:04 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 10:05 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-10-2017 11:19 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Quote:Portland police will no longer maintain a database of suspected gang members, due to concerns that the vast majority of people with the gang label are racial minorities.

Starting Oct. 15, the Portland Police Bureau will end the 20-year practice of issuing gang member designations, which police say can lead to “unintended consequences” and a lifelong stigma even for those who have given up the gang lifestyle. Officials intend to notify the approximately 300 people on the gang list that the bureau will purge all records related to the designations, The Oregonian reported.

City officials and community activists had long urged the bureau to stop attaching the gang designation to criminal suspects, claiming the practice disproportionately impacted people of color.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/10/portla...ite-gangs/

It's called racial profiling and it's lazy police work.

Fit even You know better that this. Gangs are a known commodity in communities. Most White gang members ride Harley Davidsons and wear colors. Easy to spot and track.

Funny you should mention bikers. Here locally, we have had a number of shootings at bars involving biker gangs. Some of the one's who were shot were actually touted as heroes because they sometimes rallied for charitable organizations.

How are they any different than MS 13? I wonder if anyone would call them heroes if they were shot?


Of course, we know the real reason why.............

Because biker gangs look like this
[Image: 6af6f70daed83cabf515d3af05ca20b6.jpg]


And MS 13 looks like this................

[Image: 4-17-17-ms13.jpg]

Any criminal gang activity regardless of the race of perpetrators should be punished.

How are they different? I really don't know the answer to that.

I don't hear about HA criminal gang activity but I do hear about MS-13.

If we follow your insinuation, I guess we can blame the leftist mainstream media for perpetuating racism.
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RE: Portland Police Are Purging Gang Database Because There Aren't Enough White Gangs
(09-12-2017 10:46 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 10:28 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 10:04 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 10:05 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-10-2017 11:19 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Liberalism is a mental disorder.


http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/10/portla...ite-gangs/

It's called racial profiling and it's lazy police work.

Fit even You know better that this. Gangs are a known commodity in communities. Most White gang members ride Harley Davidsons and wear colors. Easy to spot and track.

Funny you should mention bikers. Here locally, we have had a number of shootings at bars involving biker gangs. Some of the one's who were shot were actually touted as heroes because they sometimes rallied for charitable organizations.

How are they any different than MS 13? I wonder if anyone would call them heroes if they were shot?


Of course, we know the real reason why.............

Because biker gangs look like this
[Image: 6af6f70daed83cabf515d3af05ca20b6.jpg]


And MS 13 looks like this................

[Image: 4-17-17-ms13.jpg]

Any criminal gang activity regardless of the race of perpetrators should be punished.

How are they different? I really don't know the answer to that.

I don't hear about HA criminal gang activity but I do hear about MS-13.

If we follow your insinuation, I guess we can blame the leftist mainstream media for perpetuating racism.

Check out the list of known outlaw biker gangs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ou...ycle_clubs


M S 13 is only one gang.

Ask yourself why we hear so much about MS 13 and hardly ever hear about biker gangs?
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There are plenty of white hipster gangs in Portland. Just go to any coffee shop and you'll see them.
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I know for a fact that known Hell's Angels (and other motorcycle gangs) members are in the gang database so I guess that shoots that theory right out of the water.
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(09-12-2017 10:57 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  I know for a fact that known Hell's Angels (and other motorcycle gangs) members are in the gang database so I guess that shoots that theory right out of the water.

And they should be. The point I'm trying to make is the the media treats gang activity differently.

Biker gangs are just as dangerous as street gangs but for some reason, you don't hear much on tv about biker gangs.

Why is that?
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(09-12-2017 10:57 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  I know for a fact that known Hell's Angels (and other motorcycle gangs) members are in the gang database so I guess that shoots that theory right out of the water.

That's what I figured. I guess the left NEEDS to keep the racism alive.
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(09-12-2017 11:00 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 10:57 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  I know for a fact that known Hell's Angels (and other motorcycle gangs) members are in the gang database so I guess that shoots that theory right out of the water.

That's what I figured. I guess the left NEEDS to keep the racism alive.

Don't be naive. You know darn well inner city street gangs get way more coverage than biker gangs.
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(09-12-2017 10:49 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 10:46 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 10:28 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 10:04 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 10:05 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  It's called racial profiling and it's lazy police work.

Fit even You know better that this. Gangs are a known commodity in communities. Most White gang members ride Harley Davidsons and wear colors. Easy to spot and track.

Funny you should mention bikers. Here locally, we have had a number of shootings at bars involving biker gangs. Some of the one's who were shot were actually touted as heroes because they sometimes rallied for charitable organizations.

How are they any different than MS 13? I wonder if anyone would call them heroes if they were shot?


Of course, we know the real reason why.............

Because biker gangs look like this
[Image: 6af6f70daed83cabf515d3af05ca20b6.jpg]


And MS 13 looks like this................

[Image: 4-17-17-ms13.jpg]

Any criminal gang activity regardless of the race of perpetrators should be punished.

How are they different? I really don't know the answer to that.

I don't hear about HA criminal gang activity but I do hear about MS-13.

If we follow your insinuation, I guess we can blame the leftist mainstream media for perpetuating racism.

Check out the list of known outlaw biker gangs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ou...ycle_clubs


M S 13 is only one gang.

Ask yourself why we hear so much about MS 13 and hardly ever hear about biker gangs?

Because the leftist MSM is racist.
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(09-12-2017 11:00 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 10:57 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  I know for a fact that known Hell's Angels (and other motorcycle gangs) members are in the gang database so I guess that shoots that theory right out of the water.

That's what I figured. I guess the left NEEDS to keep the racism alive.

Yeah, from experience it's not often you interact with someone sporting Hell's Angels colors or the colors of one of their support clubs and they not be in the database. Law enforcement, especially the feds, keep a very close eye on those thugs DEA agent I know told me once he could give me close to the exact date when nazi-method meth started being made in SC by when they had the first pictures of the HA chemist from Arizona at the HA compound n Moncks Corner, SC in late 2003/early 2004.
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(09-12-2017 11:01 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 11:00 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 10:57 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  I know for a fact that known Hell's Angels (and other motorcycle gangs) members are in the gang database so I guess that shoots that theory right out of the water.

That's what I figured. I guess the left NEEDS to keep the racism alive.

Don't be naive. You know darn well inner city street gangs get way more coverage than biker gangs.

Today maybe, but how about in the past? I remember hearing lots and lots about various biker gangs growing up and still hear about them but mostly about raising hell during various bike weeks, etc. I guess you choose to hear what you choose to hear.
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(09-12-2017 11:08 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 11:00 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 10:57 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  I know for a fact that known Hell's Angels (and other motorcycle gangs) members are in the gang database so I guess that shoots that theory right out of the water.

That's what I figured. I guess the left NEEDS to keep the racism alive.

Yeah, from experience it's not often you interact with someone sporting Hell's Angels colors or the colors of one of their support clubs and they not be in the database. Law enforcement, especially the feds, keep a very close eye on those thugs DEA agent I know told me once he could give me close to the exact date when nazi-method meth started being made in SC by when they had the first pictures of the HA chemist from Arizona at the HA compound n Moncks Corner, SC in late 2003/early 2004.

So where is the TV coverage?

Why isn't Trump speaking out against biker gangs?
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(09-12-2017 11:01 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 11:00 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 10:57 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  I know for a fact that known Hell's Angels (and other motorcycle gangs) members are in the gang database so I guess that shoots that theory right out of the water.

That's what I figured. I guess the left NEEDS to keep the racism alive.

Don't be naive. You know darn well inner city street gangs get way more coverage than biker gangs.

Probably b/c there's a lot more of them. 03-idea
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(09-12-2017 11:09 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 11:08 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 11:00 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 10:57 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  I know for a fact that known Hell's Angels (and other motorcycle gangs) members are in the gang database so I guess that shoots that theory right out of the water.

That's what I figured. I guess the left NEEDS to keep the racism alive.

Yeah, from experience it's not often you interact with someone sporting Hell's Angels colors or the colors of one of their support clubs and they not be in the database. Law enforcement, especially the feds, keep a very close eye on those thugs DEA agent I know told me once he could give me close to the exact date when nazi-method meth started being made in SC by when they had the first pictures of the HA chemist from Arizona at the HA compound n Moncks Corner, SC in late 2003/early 2004.

So where is the TV coverage?

Why isn't Trump speaking out against biker gangs?

http://www.newsweek.com/indictment-shows...ing-570240

http://www.rgj.com/story/news/2017/06/16...405375001/

http://www.expressnews.com/news/local/ar...973900.php

http://www.mycentraljersey.com/story/new.../79366060/

https://patch.com/new-hampshire/concord-...ng-charges

http://www.woodburybulletin.com/news/928...al-charges

http://www.woodburybulletin.com/news/928...al-charges









Sometimes to see you have to actually open your eyes.
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(09-12-2017 11:27 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 11:09 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 11:08 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 11:00 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 10:57 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  I know for a fact that known Hell's Angels (and other motorcycle gangs) members are in the gang database so I guess that shoots that theory right out of the water.

That's what I figured. I guess the left NEEDS to keep the racism alive.

Yeah, from experience it's not often you interact with someone sporting Hell's Angels colors or the colors of one of their support clubs and they not be in the database. Law enforcement, especially the feds, keep a very close eye on those thugs DEA agent I know told me once he could give me close to the exact date when nazi-method meth started being made in SC by when they had the first pictures of the HA chemist from Arizona at the HA compound n Moncks Corner, SC in late 2003/early 2004.

So where is the TV coverage?

Why isn't Trump speaking out against biker gangs?

http://www.newsweek.com/indictment-shows...ing-570240

http://www.rgj.com/story/news/2017/06/16...405375001/

http://www.expressnews.com/news/local/ar...973900.php

http://www.mycentraljersey.com/story/new.../79366060/

https://patch.com/new-hampshire/concord-...ng-charges

http://www.woodburybulletin.com/news/928...al-charges

http://www.woodburybulletin.com/news/928...al-charges



Sometimes to see you have to actually open your eyes.

They see what they want to see and hear only what they want to hear.
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(09-12-2017 10:28 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
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(09-11-2017 10:05 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-10-2017 11:19 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Quote:Portland police will no longer maintain a database of suspected gang members, due to concerns that the vast majority of people with the gang label are racial minorities.

Starting Oct. 15, the Portland Police Bureau will end the 20-year practice of issuing gang member designations, which police say can lead to “unintended consequences” and a lifelong stigma even for those who have given up the gang lifestyle. Officials intend to notify the approximately 300 people on the gang list that the bureau will purge all records related to the designations, The Oregonian reported.

City officials and community activists had long urged the bureau to stop attaching the gang designation to criminal suspects, claiming the practice disproportionately impacted people of color.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/10/portla...ite-gangs/

It's called racial profiling and it's lazy police work.

Fit even You know better that this. Gangs are a known commodity in communities. Most White gang members ride Harley Davidsons and wear colors. Easy to spot and track.

Funny you should mention bikers. Here locally, we have had a number of shootings at bars involving biker gangs. Some of the one's who were shot were actually touted as heroes because they sometimes rallied for charitable organizations.

How are they any different than MS 13? I wonder if anyone would call them heroes if they were shot?


Of course, we know the real reason why.............

Because biker gangs look like this
[Image: 6af6f70daed83cabf515d3af05ca20b6.jpg]


And MS 13 looks like this................

[Image: 4-17-17-ms13.jpg]

A lot of MS-13 gangbangers are illegal immigrants while most Hell's Angels members are at least U.S. citizens. While the crimes each commit are equally heinous, having illegals here doing this **** is worse because we should have more security measures to keep foreign criminals out of our country.

There is another component that you are likely missing. Not all organized crime syndicates are created equal. As illogical as it sounds, some of these entities actually keep the peace in neighborhoods while other entities are little better than packs of rabid dogs. If I was living in a city neighborhood, I'd much rather see the neighborhood controlled by the mafia than MS13. The mafia tended to keep the peace while MS13...not so much.
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