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RE: Game 3: UNC vs. ODU
My very astute friend who watched the game play carefully offered these comments:

Quote:BTW, I watched the line play the last 7:00 mins of the first half, UNC likely blitzed frequently early as LaRussa and Hoy had zero time. With the big lead they played more basic defense. I was expecting to watch a lot of skifting, stunting and hot read blitzes and saw the ends smoke our tackles to contain the pocket and the interior players used simple "swim" moves to collapse the pocket or stunt the run.

Their LBs had great closing speed...there was no A or B gap until the fourth quarter.

Also, their hurry-up offense and the warm weather rapidy wore our D out. In the second half, Fedora was looking not to run up the score again, so they burned clock after plays and the ODU D looked much better...until our deep subs got PT in the fourth quarter.

Quote:As the game got out of hand, I watched the line play more...UNC wasn't blitzing or even stunting, they were exploding off the block and simply overwhelming the o-line.

The Williams kid can play. Wilder had to put him in. Hoy looked completely lost and while LaRussa was more poised in the pocket, ODU looked inept with both.

ODU really misses Lawry...Cox is hard to tackle if he gets past the line, but he is slow to get there.

ODU was equal to UNC in size, but not speed. UNC repeatedly ran down ODU players from behind, while ODU players simply could not keep up with UNC.
09-17-2017 06:40 PM
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RE: Game 3: UNC vs. ODU
(09-17-2017 05:37 PM)NC ODUFan Wrote:  
(09-17-2017 07:17 AM)Grommet Wrote:  
(09-16-2017 06:57 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  
(09-16-2017 06:28 PM)NC ODUFan Wrote:  I resonate with the frustration of today. I was certainly hoping for better. Let's get some perspective, ran into a desperate team with much better athletes than ODU can hope to recruit. Look at the other blow outs; ECU loses by 47 (probably our fate next week against VT), Utah State loses by 36 to Wake, Pitt loses to OK State by 28. Blow outs happen. No time to believe the sky is falling, Wilder can't coach or recruit, etc..

he has shown he cannot recruit. We have 1 QB maybe. An OL that is mediocre at best even against piss poor teams, and our LB core has 1 maybe 2 players. Unacceptable to be in this shape after 4 FBS recruiting classes. No excuses he gets a D at recruiting.

This is the crackhead nature of the board that drives me nuts. Take a moment to compare recruiting profiles of a few key positions. Let's say QB, OL, DE. Tell me what you find. Hell, I'll tell you w/o looking. I love each and every kid on the roster and what they do for the team, but the truth is UNC recruits at a very high talent level and most of our guys probably would not be preferred walk-ons in Chapel Hill. We get the leftovers, unfortunately. Did Dazz Newsome play yesterday? We offered him. Where'd he end up?

We ARE SO MUCH better than we were 4 cycles ago. And *******, yes we have issues, but Louisville was having issues at Clemson last night, lost by TWENTY-SIX and they're a team that put 705 yds on Carolina last week. Do THEY have recruiting issues? Does Carolina have recruiting issues because they got scorched last week? We need to address our issues, but that comes in time.

This whole process is baby steps. Win ten games. Win a bowl. 2.5 stars show up at recruiting events. Win CUSA maybe a few 3 more three stars show interest and sign on the dotted line. Field a team that can regularly beat WKU four years from now. But reading some posters you'd think it's a shame we weren't selected for the CFB Playoff last year. It doesn't happen overnight. How many years was VT a piss-poor to middling team before all their baby steps paid off? Ans:105 years

It'll come. And it'll be sooooooo sweet when we get there. But for now, man you gotta enjoy that Harper run-back, enjoy that we took the wrapping off a Xmas present early, enjoy that Ximines got a sack vs an ACC team. Baby steps.

Amen, brother!

Thx, man. Attitudes here get to me every once in a while.

BTW Newsome did play, wearing #19
09-17-2017 08:16 PM
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RE: Game 3: UNC vs. ODU
(09-17-2017 06:40 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  My very astute friend who watched the game play carefully offered these comments:

Quote:BTW, I watched the line play the last 7:00 mins of the first half, UNC likely blitzed frequently early as LaRussa and Hoy had zero time. With the big lead they played more basic defense. I was expecting to watch a lot of skifting, stunting and hot read blitzes and saw the ends smoke our tackles to contain the pocket and the interior players used simple "swim" moves to collapse the pocket or stunt the run.

Their LBs had great closing speed...there was no A or B gap until the fourth quarter.

Also, their hurry-up offense and the warm weather rapidy wore our D out. In the second half, Fedora was looking not to run up the score again, so they burned clock after plays and the ODU D looked much better...until our deep subs got PT in the fourth quarter.

Quote:As the game got out of hand, I watched the line play more...UNC wasn't blitzing or even stunting, they were exploding off the block and simply overwhelming the o-line.

The Williams kid can play. Wilder had to put him in. Hoy looked completely lost and while LaRussa was more poised in the pocket, ODU looked inept with both.

ODU really misses Lawry...Cox is hard to tackle if he gets past the line, but he is slow to get there.

ODU was equal to UNC in size, but not speed. UNC repeatedly ran down ODU players from behind, while ODU players simply could not keep up with UNC.
Good observations, although they definitely kept blitzing through the third quarter. As far as size and speed, overall I thought they were bigger but not faster. But if he was referring specifically to linemen he might be right.
09-17-2017 08:45 PM
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RE: Game 3: UNC vs. ODU
Post game presser (didn't see the full video posted)

Harper, Denzel Williams, Fulgham, Stevie Williams start about 13:15

http://www.odusports.com/mediaPortal/pla...11156&KEY=
09-17-2017 09:41 PM
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RE: Game 3: UNC vs. ODU
Harper's kick return for a TD from what appears to be a UNC fan view....

09-18-2017 09:22 AM
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RE: Game 3: UNC vs. ODU
Here's a question for you guys. In the stats ODU is credited with one sack, the one we all saw by Ximines. However if a QB drops back to throw, starts to run and winds up going down with a slide one yard behind the line of scrimmage, shouldn't that also be a sack? If so, I am about 99% sure we should have at least two sacks, and possibly three based on what I saw at the game.

EDIT: The Monarchs still lead the nation with 16, but Clemson is right behind with 15 and Temple is at 14 after getting 9 against UMass.
(This post was last modified: 09-18-2017 11:25 AM by ODU AGGIE.)
09-18-2017 11:19 AM
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RE: Game 3: UNC vs. ODU
It is based on if the scorer deemed the intention of the QB to run or not.
09-18-2017 11:25 AM
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RE: Game 3: UNC vs. ODU
Funny but in espn radio during game day the guy was talking about Clemson and was like "and nobody in the nation has more sacks" and if I had cares more I wanted to tweet "actually 3 teams have more. "

Posted from mobile device. Hopefully it's coherent.
09-18-2017 08:29 PM
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RE: Game 3: UNC vs. ODU
another reason to not watch espn
09-19-2017 06:10 AM
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RE: Game 3: UNC vs. ODU
If you're not P5 you may as well be D3 in the eyes of the media
09-19-2017 06:39 AM
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RE: Game 3: UNC vs. ODU
UNC's current record is 1-5. This was the year that we could have gotten revenge...
10-10-2017 01:42 PM
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RE: Game 3: UNC vs. ODU
Yeah, and if we didn't allow 3rd and 29 . . .
10-10-2017 01:48 PM
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RE: Game 3: UNC vs. ODU
And they have only scored 17, 7 and 10 points in the following 3 games.
10-10-2017 02:25 PM
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RE: Game 3: UNC vs. ODU
(10-10-2017 02:25 PM)SettleDownFolks Wrote:  And they have only scored 17, 7 and 10 points in the following 3 games.

Didn't they score fifty something against our defense? That gives you an idea of just how much our defense has grown.
10-10-2017 03:23 PM
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RE: Game 3: UNC vs. ODU
(10-10-2017 03:23 PM)ODU FrontRunner Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 02:25 PM)SettleDownFolks Wrote:  And they have only scored 17, 7 and 10 points in the following 3 games.

Didn't they score fifty something against our defense? That gives you an idea of just how much our defense has grown.

They have also lost a ton of players so not really a direct comparison. Not saying the defense is great, but they got the injury bug after playing us.
10-10-2017 03:49 PM
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RE: Game 3: UNC vs. ODU
Not that it matters. But we outscored them 16 to 14 after SW came in.
10-10-2017 04:21 PM
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RE: Game 3: UNC vs. ODU
(10-10-2017 02:25 PM)SettleDownFolks Wrote:  And they have only scored 17, 7 and 10 points in the following 3 games.

Just about every WR they put in this year has had a season ending injury. And after the Elijah Hood (stud RB who was barely used; left early for NFL rather than play another year at UNC---OAK practice squad) fiasco I'm not sure where they are on RBs. Not too many kids left who can score.

I have dual-citizenship--here and on a Carolina board. There are a lot of the same arguments being made.
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