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(03-17-2018 01:28 PM)JimJoyce Wrote:  
(03-17-2018 12:55 PM)burden Wrote:  He did it again. Won 5-3. Third place!! He probably kept Ohio St. from winning the tournament.

Oh great, now those chicken $hits will never wrestle us again.

Right now they are so much better than us it’s probably a good thing. It will be interesting to see how they replace all their seniors though.
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(03-17-2018 02:37 PM)burden Wrote:  
(03-17-2018 01:00 PM)Lambert58 Wrote:  
(03-17-2018 12:55 PM)burden Wrote:  He did it again. Won 5-3. Third place!! He probably kept Ohio St. from winning the tournament.

With 5 in the finals, PSU had it locked up.

I don’t know. Ohio St. is up 6 right now. If they win at HW and 184 to go up by 14. That would force Penn St to win their 4 remaining matches or win 3 with a couple of pins. They could do that but it would be interesting at least. If Martin wins Friday Penn St. would really have had its back to the wall. Today’s match was not as important. Tonight the match at 184 is key. Ohio St must pull the upset.

Mathematically, you are correct. It would take a collapse from PSU tonight and I just don’t see it happening. Nolf and Retherford are unbeatable. The other 3 are beatable but at least one of them will win. Hall has the best chance.

http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/sports/...18aad.html

“If Myles Martin and Kyle Snyder are both victorious in the finals, the four Penn State finalists not named Bo Nickal (he faces Martin) will need to accumulate 14.5 team points to surpass Ohio State. Each finals win is worth four team points with additional bonus points available: two for a pin, 1.5 for a tech fall with nearfall points and one point for a major decision.“
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(03-17-2018 04:54 PM)Lambert58 Wrote:  
(03-17-2018 02:37 PM)burden Wrote:  
(03-17-2018 01:00 PM)Lambert58 Wrote:  
(03-17-2018 12:55 PM)burden Wrote:  He did it again. Won 5-3. Third place!! He probably kept Ohio St. from winning the tournament.

With 5 in the finals, PSU had it locked up.

I don’t know. Ohio St. is up 6 right now. If they win at HW and 184 to go up by 14. That would force Penn St to win their 4 remaining matches or win 3 with a couple of pins. They could do that but it would be interesting at least. If Martin wins Friday Penn St. would really have had its back to the wall. Today’s match was not as important. Tonight the match at 184 is key. Ohio St must pull the upset.

Mathematically, you are correct. It would take a collapse from PSU tonight and I just don’t see it happening. Nolf and Retherford are unbeatable. The other 3 are beatable but at least one of them will win. Hall has the best chance.

http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/sports/...18aad.html

“If Myles Martin and Kyle Snyder are both victorious in the finals, the four Penn State finalists not named Bo Nickal (he faces Martin) will need to accumulate 14.5 team points to surpass Ohio State. Each finals win ids worth four team points with additional bonus points available: two for a pin, 1.5 for a tech fall with nearfall points and one point for a major decision.“

I think your math is wrong (remember I have a PhD in wrestling meet scoring). If your two sure things win but so do Snyder and Martin, Ohio St. still maintains a six point lead. Then both remaining Penn St wrestlers have to win (I’m ignoring pins, majors etc since you need to do post graduate work to figure all that out). That means Penn St. must go 4-1 if Ohio St goes 2-0 (by no means an easy task). Going 3-2 wouldn’t be a collapse would it? My head is now hurting.
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Where is KSU in standings?
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(03-17-2018 06:52 PM)cschierh Wrote:  Where is KSU in standings?

Currently tied with Duke for 22.
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(03-17-2018 05:16 PM)burden Wrote:  
(03-17-2018 04:54 PM)Lambert58 Wrote:  
(03-17-2018 02:37 PM)burden Wrote:  
(03-17-2018 01:00 PM)Lambert58 Wrote:  
(03-17-2018 12:55 PM)burden Wrote:  He did it again. Won 5-3. Third place!! He probably kept Ohio St. from winning the tournament.

With 5 in the finals, PSU had it locked up.

I don’t know. Ohio St. is up 6 right now. If they win at HW and 184 to go up by 14. That would force Penn St to win their 4 remaining matches or win 3 with a couple of pins. They could do that but it would be interesting at least. If Martin wins Friday Penn St. would really have had its back to the wall. Today’s match was not as important. Tonight the match at 184 is key. Ohio St must pull the upset.

Mathematically, you are correct. It would take a collapse from PSU tonight and I just don’t see it happening. Nolf and Retherford are unbeatable. The other 3 are beatable but at least one of them will win. Hall has the best chance.

http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/sports/...18aad.html

“If Myles Martin and Kyle Snyder are both victorious in the finals, the four Penn State finalists not named Bo Nickal (he faces Martin) will need to accumulate 14.5 team points to surpass Ohio State. Each finals win ids worth four team points with additional bonus points available: two for a pin, 1.5 for a tech fall with nearfall points and one point for a major decision.“

I think your math is wrong (remember I have a PhD in wrestling meet scoring). If your two sure things win but so do Snyder and Martin, Ohio St. still maintains a six point lead. Then both remaining Penn St wrestlers have to win (I’m ignoring pins, majors etc since you need to do post graduate work to figure all that out). That means Penn St. must go 4-1 if Ohio St goes 2-0 (by no means an easy task). Going 3-2 wouldn’t be a collapse would it? My head is now hurting.

I have a PhD in fat fingers and small phones. My edit didn’t post. lol I was agreeing with you - that’s why I had the link. I was trying to say that Hall was the most likely to lose. When he did, Bo had to win, assuming Snyder was also going to win. Given PSU went undefeated last year in the finals, 3-2 would be a collapse for them.
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(03-18-2018 08:45 AM)Lambert58 Wrote:  
(03-17-2018 05:16 PM)burden Wrote:  
(03-17-2018 04:54 PM)Lambert58 Wrote:  
(03-17-2018 02:37 PM)burden Wrote:  
(03-17-2018 01:00 PM)Lambert58 Wrote:  With 5 in the finals, PSU had it locked up.

I don’t know. Ohio St. is up 6 right now. If they win at HW and 184 to go up by 14. That would force Penn St to win their 4 remaining matches or win 3 with a couple of pins. They could do that but it would be interesting at least. If Martin wins Friday Penn St. would really have had its back to the wall. Today’s match was not as important. Tonight the match at 184 is key. Ohio St must pull the upset.

Mathematically, you are correct. It would take a collapse from PSU tonight and I just don’t see it happening. Nolf and Retherford are unbeatable. The other 3 are beatable but at least one of them will win. Hall has the best chance.

http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/sports/...18aad.html

“If Myles Martin and Kyle Snyder are both victorious in the finals, the four Penn State finalists not named Bo Nickal (he faces Martin) will need to accumulate 14.5 team points to surpass Ohio State. Each finals win ids worth four team points with additional bonus points available: two for a pin, 1.5 for a tech fall with nearfall points and one point for a major decision.“

I think your math is wrong (remember I have a PhD in wrestling meet scoring). If your two sure things win but so do Snyder and Martin, Ohio St. still maintains a six point lead. Then both remaining Penn St wrestlers have to win (I’m ignoring pins, majors etc since you need to do post graduate work to figure all that out). That means Penn St. must go 4-1 if Ohio St goes 2-0 (by no means an easy task). Going 3-2 wouldn’t be a collapse would it? My head is now hurting.

I have a PhD in fat fingers and small phones. My edit didn’t post. lol I was agreeing with you - that’s why I had the link. I was trying to say that Hall was the most likely to lose. When he did, Bo had to win, assuming Snyder was also going to win. Given PSU went undefeated last year in the finals, 3-2 would be a collapse for them.

As much as you have to like Conel after his interview you have to dislike Bo after his. What a jerk. Too bad his match had to be the deciding match.
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(03-18-2018 12:11 PM)burden Wrote:  
(03-18-2018 08:45 AM)Lambert58 Wrote:  
(03-17-2018 05:16 PM)burden Wrote:  
(03-17-2018 04:54 PM)Lambert58 Wrote:  
(03-17-2018 02:37 PM)burden Wrote:  I don’t know. Ohio St. is up 6 right now. If they win at HW and 184 to go up by 14. That would force Penn St to win their 4 remaining matches or win 3 with a couple of pins. They could do that but it would be interesting at least. If Martin wins Friday Penn St. would really have had its back to the wall. Today’s match was not as important. Tonight the match at 184 is key. Ohio St must pull the upset.

Mathematically, you are correct. It would take a collapse from PSU tonight and I just don’t see it happening. Nolf and Retherford are unbeatable. The other 3 are beatable but at least one of them will win. Hall has the best chance.

http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/sports/...18aad.html

“If Myles Martin and Kyle Snyder are both victorious in the finals, the four Penn State finalists not named Bo Nickal (he faces Martin) will need to accumulate 14.5 team points to surpass Ohio State. Each finals win ids worth four team points with additional bonus points available: two for a pin, 1.5 for a tech fall with nearfall points and one point for a major decision.“

I think your math is wrong (remember I have a PhD in wrestling meet scoring). If your two sure things win but so do Snyder and Martin, Ohio St. still maintains a six point lead. Then both remaining Penn St wrestlers have to win (I’m ignoring pins, majors etc since you need to do post graduate work to figure all that out). That means Penn St. must go 4-1 if Ohio St goes 2-0 (by no means an easy task). Going 3-2 wouldn’t be a collapse would it? My head is now hurting.

I have a PhD in fat fingers and small phones. My edit didn’t post. lol I was agreeing with you - that’s why I had the link. I was trying to say that Hall was the most likely to lose. When he did, Bo had to win, assuming Snyder was also going to win. Given PSU went undefeated last year in the finals, 3-2 would be a collapse for them.

As much as you have to like Conel after his interview you have to dislike Bo after his. What a jerk. Too bad his match had to be the deciding match.

It was so loud I couldn’t hear a word he said. lol
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Eastern Michigan just announced they are dropping wrestling. They also dropped men’s swimming, women’s tennis and women’s softball. It sounds like it’s strictly a money move and not a Title 9 balancing of men’s/women’s scholarships. The wrestling team got a nice reward for overperforming at the MAC tournament.
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Here is how each of the 5 Kent State Wrestling recruits finished in this years state championships.

Brady Chrisman @ 170lbs in Ohio Division 1 finished in 2nd place at the state tournament and finished 43-4 for his senior season.

Jacob Cover @ HWT in Ohio Division 1 finished in 4th place at the state tournament and finished 45-5 for his senior season.

Caleb Brooks @ 126lbs in Ohio Division 2 finished in 3rd place at the state tournament and finished 37-2 for his senior season.

Stone Day @ 195lbs in Ohio Division 2 finished as the champion at the state tournament and finished 34-1 for his senior season.

Tim Wallace @ 182lbs in Pennsylvania Division AAA finished in 2nd place at the state tournament and finished 34-3 for his senior season.

Not a bad showing by the 5 recruits. I am wondering with EMU getting rid of wrestling and them having 5 or 6 northeast Ohio freshmen, redshirt freshmen, and sophomores on their roster, how many will transfer to Kent State?
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(03-28-2018 11:42 PM)GoFlashes7 Wrote:  Here is how each of the 5 Kent State Wrestling recruits finished in this years state championships.

Brady Chrisman @ 170lbs in Ohio Division 1 finished in 2nd place at the state tournament and finished 43-4 for his senior season.

Jacob Cover @ HWT in Ohio Division 1 finished in 4th place at the state tournament and finished 45-5 for his senior season.

Caleb Brooks @ 126lbs in Ohio Division 2 finished in 3rd place at the state tournament and finished 37-2 for his senior season.

Stone Day @ 195lbs in Ohio Division 2 finished as the champion at the state tournament and finished 34-1 for his senior season.

Tim Wallace @ 182lbs in Pennsylvania Division AAA finished in 2nd place at the state tournament and finished 34-3 for his senior season.

Not a bad showing by the 5 recruits. I am wondering with EMU getting rid of wrestling and them having 5 or 6 northeast Ohio freshmen, redshirt freshmen, and sophomores on their roster, how many will transfer to Kent State?

3 new recruits, bringing this class to 8. Leno Ciotti from Erie McDowell HS in Erie PA @ 141lbs and Tyler Bates from Marysville HS in Marysville OH @ 174/184lbs, Hunter Yackee from Wauseon HS in Wauseon OH @ 141lbs.

In looking at this years roster and who returns/possible starting lineup:
125lbs - Will Bardezbain is out of eligibility and Jake Ferri (12-18 record this year) returns for his sophomore year as the starter. Feuer will provide depth.

133lbs - Anthony Tutolo (29-13) returns for his redshirt senior year as the starter in hopes of producing his best season yet @ KSU. Simpson providing depth with Caleb Brooks coming in next fall as a true freshman.

141lbs - Chance Driscoll is out of eligibility and Tim Rooney (29-14 record) returns for his redshirt sophomore year as the starter, after a solid 1st year as the starter. Martinez, Henneman (21-4 record) & Newhouse providing depth, with Leon Ciotti & Hunter Yackee coming in next fall as true freshmen.

149lbs - Nick Monico (20-12) returns for his redshirt sophomore year as the starter, hoping to build off of a solid redshirt freshman season. Hinkson & Komara (12-5) provide depth.

157lbs - Casey Sparkman (23-18) returns for his redshirt senior year as the starter, hoping to have his best season in a KSU uniform. Spino, Heyob (12-10), & Jackson provide depth. Interesting that Andrassy isn't bringing a recruit at 157lbs, with Sparkman gone the following year as I am not sure the 3 guys listed can come close to his production.

165lbs - Isaac Bast (23-19) returns for his redshirt senior year as the starter, hoping to have his best season in a KSU uniform. Byland and Hinkle (9-11) providing depth. Interesting that Andrassy isn't bringing a recruit at 165lbs, with Bast gone the following year as I am not sure the 2 guys listed can come close to his production, although Hinkle did have a nice 1st season in open tournaments.

174lbs - Dylan Barreiro (21-19) returns for his redshirt sophomore year as the starter coming off a successful 1st season as the starter. I believe Hinkle wrestles 174lbs as well. Brady Chrisman & Tyler Bates will be on campus next fall and will provide depth at 174lbs as well as 184lbs, maybe 1 or the other.

184lbs - Collin McCracken (12-22) returns for his sophomore year as the starter, hopefully he can improve his conditioning because he has a lot of talent. Brady Chrisman & Tyler Bates will be on campus next fall and will provide depth at 184lbs, along with Shane Mast, as well as 174lbs, maybe 1 or the other.

197lbs - Kyle Conel (30-11) returns for his redshirt senior year as the starter coming off his All American 3rd place finish at the NCAAs. Stone Day & Tim Wallace will be on campus in the fall and will provide depth at 197lbs.

HWT - Stephen Suglio is out of eligilibilty and Devin Nye (21-17) would be a redshirt senior if he returns. Billy Bolia (12-13) returns after redshirting and having a nice open tournament year. Spencer Berthold didn't wrestle in any matches or tournaments this season, so not sure if he is returning to KSU or not, but would definitely provide depth along with Jacob Cover who will be on campus in the fall.

KSU should have a really good season next year, with the depth and starters returning, on paper at least.

On a side note, Perry from EMU who finished as an All American this season, is transferring to Old Dominion since EMU is folding their Wrestling program.
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